00:01:15 ROFL 00:07:22 is there Clickthrough package for oacs 4.5? (I downloaded what I thought were all the pkgs; doesn't seem to be there) 00:23:35 vinod (~vinod@207-172-97-136.s390.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com) has joined #openacs 00:24:15 oom 00:25:34 hey rbm 00:25:43 hey vinod. 00:25:58 I tried your fix and couldn't get it to work. 00:26:29 hey Roberto 00:26:32 hmmm... that's weird. it works for me now 00:26:40 vinod: did you commit a new version of index.xml? 00:26:53 just a few minutes ago - to the 4.5 tree 00:28:40 vinod: oh, okay. I'll update then. 00:29:09 cool - let me know if it works 00:33:02 I must have the wrong tree 00:33:09 s/have/be getting/ 00:33:14 I don't see a change 00:33:25 I thought I was getting the head version 00:34:21 isn't the head version the development tree? 00:34:36 I think you want the branch tagged 'oacs-4-5' 01:00:17 roberto? 01:08:08 paje seen davb 01:08:08 davb was last seen on #openacs 4 hours, 42 minutes and 29 seconds ago, saying: have fun [Wed May 15 14:26:36 2002] 01:16:55 lethedrinker (~kapil@codeitnat.codeit.com) has joined #openacs 01:20:22 Psychephylax: yes? 01:23:10 I forgot what I was going to ask you lol 01:23:25 oh yeah 01:23:29 how much memory did you want? 01:44:01 Psychephylax: 256? 01:44:16 I was just playing SimCity 3000 01:44:24 My city sucks currently :) 01:45:37 hehehehehehehe 01:45:40 mine always do 01:46:16 Heheh, Sun is making an unlimited donation of StarOffice to China 01:53:13 That's what 01:53:16 12 billion copies? 01:53:31 (: 01:56:07 Can't they donate a few 420R's to me? 01:57:11 i don't need unlimited either 01:57:16 like 4 or 5 would suffice 02:30:37 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 02:36:20 anyone home? 02:38:47 hey davb 02:38:50 yes 02:38:52 hi vinod 02:38:52 Of course 02:39:22 and Psychephylax 02:39:22 rumour has it Psychephylax is spork 02:39:28 hahaha 02:39:31 yes paje, I am spork 02:39:42 I need to become less of a compulsive buyer 02:40:35 * vinod thanks Psychephylax for singlehandedly recovering the us economy 02:40:46 yep 02:40:48 close to it 02:40:50 Dave 02:41:05 you sure you don't want to buy my camera :) i have another expense I have to cover 02:41:22 I have $5 02:41:46 heh 02:41:51 I have -498$ 02:42:01 oh :) 02:42:16 if you want to count that, I am way ahead of you. 02:42:19 on top of that -750$ 02:44:30 oh yeah, i found out that the fix for templating the 404 error page, doesn't return a 404 error, so you never know if people are hitting a missing url by looking at the logs. 02:45:51 jim, there is clickthrough for openacs 4.5 02:48:19 Toys! 02:48:25 * Psychephylax can't wait 02:51:29 what now? 02:53:14 lol 02:53:22 I need to get an IR filter 02:53:24 a carrying case 02:53:26 and a monopod 02:53:38 and more batteries 02:53:45 this thing sucks a set dry in a day 02:54:02 get Monster Power high output batteries. 02:54:13 they are supposed to last twice as long. 03:01:40 I have like 5 or 6 sets of rechargeable batteries 03:01:54 I have to work out a system of using them to their potential though 03:03:36 well, according to the box, the monster batteries can take 230 photos with flash and lcd on. 03:05:10 we need lithium-ion batteries for digital cameras. 03:05:11 Well, it's just odd 03:05:29 I could have sworn I charged the Camedia batteries in my other charger 03:05:30 I put them in 03:05:37 and they kinda went "droop" after 3 shots 03:05:45 weird 03:05:49 yeah 03:05:55 I put those in a native Olympus charger 03:06:01 are they NiMh? 03:06:05 yep 03:06:10 all of mine are NiMh 03:06:15 ok. 03:07:39 rlocke (~nsadmin@202.57.84.65) has joined #openacs 03:07:48 hi rlocke 03:08:01 Hello there! 03:09:42 hello 03:10:33 talli (~talli@pool-162-83-235-2.ny5030.east.verizon.net) has joined #openacs 03:10:48 hey guys 03:11:26 why did that have to be commented out? 03:11:42 seemed like a perfectly reasonable shout out 03:12:39 hmm... that raises a 'plausible shooter' question. who runs oacs-logger? 03:14:41 talli, do you use hub.org for email? 03:15:32 i don't 03:15:37 i have my own server for email 03:24:41 * Psychephylax goes to bed 03:32:35 xemacs5 (~chatzilla@user245.net101.pa.sprint-hsd.net) has joined #openacs 03:33:55 hello ? 03:34:09 rlocke has left #openacs 03:37:45 paje, say hello to xemacs5 03:38:04 hello denshi, paje 03:38:05 xemacs5: what? 03:56:01 xemacs5 has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.6 [Mozilla rv:1.0rc1/20020419]") 03:59:05 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 04:04:48 vinod has quit ("changing universes") 05:28:21 talli_ (~talli@pool-162-83-235-2.ny5030.east.verizon.net) has joined #openacs 05:45:04 talli has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:00:12 norelent (mikecj@bell.engr.utexas.edu) has joined #openacs 06:08:12 norelent, are you going to stay in austin this summer? 06:31:26 norelent has left #openacs 07:46:48 denshi has quit (Remote closed the connection) 08:36:34 norelent (mikecj@bell.engr.utexas.edu) has joined #openacs 08:48:31 denshi, I'll be in Austin all summer and beyond. I will be out for the extended week of June 21-29 or so. 08:49:02 we should get together or organize a "happening" or something soon. 08:49:24 I'm basically done with finals as of today, will start working full-time on Monday but will have much more free time than I have had to work on openacs etc. 08:49:25 :) 09:36:45 norelent has quit () 09:55:50 hazmat has quit (Connection timed out) 10:01:34 kapil_ (~kapil@216.154.243.230) has joined #openacs 10:02:25 lethedrinker has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:32:50 denshi (~chatzilla@cs6625176-26.austin.rr.com) has joined #openacs 12:39:32 davb (~chatzilla@rrcs-nys-24-97-22-203.biz.rr.com) has joined #openacs 12:40:22 Hi there 13:06:29 hello, agent b 13:44:45 morning 13:51:38 morning 13:52:16 6 hours to Star Wars 13:57:48 heh 13:57:51 I saw a part of it 13:57:58 Anakin is like older 13:58:11 probably around 18-22 14:03:00 Episode 2 is 10 years after the happennings of episode 1 14:03:17 Anakin was 9 back then, so he's 19 now 14:03:23 that, or 'strong in the force' makes you age prematurely 14:04:13 You never know how much OSS sucks until you switch back to it after using ALSA for a while 14:04:51 vinod (~vinod@216-164-247-159.s2635.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com) has joined #openacs 14:05:02 They didn't age Queen Amidala (?) 14:05:10 Which was odd 14:05:17 but Natalie Portman is hot so who cares :-D 14:05:28 she's not 'strong in the force' 14:05:37 lol 14:05:37 wink, wink, nudge, nudge 14:05:47 there will be no nudging 14:05:54 please...this is a family channel! 14:07:56 speaking of that; episode II indicates everything that's wrong with the MPAA rating system 14:08:27 ? 14:09:24 You mean that I have it before it's even released and I want to go see it in the movies anyway? 14:09:50 Or is it because it's "attack of the (p2p) clones"? 14:09:57 heh 14:10:10 Episode I was shot in 1997, so Portman aged 5 years since then :) 14:10:19 Hmm 14:10:25 Isn't she like 22 or around theren ow? 14:10:32 no, b/c it's rated "all ages". they actually had to cut 1 minute of violence to get 'all ages' in britain 14:10:45 She's supposed to be 24 on episode 2 14:12:04 heh 14:12:08 she's only 20 now 14:12:10 daaaaamn 14:12:22 pete_openmsg (~pharper@213.107.207.130) has joined #openacs 14:12:23 Movies mess with your mind 14:13:37 Anyone have good tips on where to go to take nice pictures of things? 14:14:12 I saw a beautiful cardinal today flying around the front yard but since my mom doesn't know about my toys I didn't really want to break out the Digicam and lenses 14:14:41 Psychephylax: Which cameras did you buy and why did you buy two? 14:15:14 that kind of thinking strikes me as bizarre: the film is a drama about the descent of a man into uncontrolled evil, who eventually massacres entire worlds; add in a variety of betrayal, deception, oh, and an army of clones... and the deciding factor as to the rating is a minute of bloodshed? 14:15:18 fscked up 14:15:40 I don't understand why the depiction is rated instead of the theme. 14:15:53 I purchased the Olympus 2100UZ 14:16:31 Why: because i have lenses, filters and accessories for them...(beats spending another 200$ for proprietary media and batteries for a cannon for example) 14:16:51 It's an excellent camera which is discontinued and there will probably no rival for it 14:17:14 Oh, so you bought two of the same camera? 14:17:30 lenses, filters 14:17:32 good camera 14:19:29 denshi: i hate to see a such a well-thought-out rant go unrewarded, so: "sing it, brother!" 14:19:47 rant been done sung, maestro 14:19:56 :-) 14:20:07 although it can be sung repeatedly 14:20:15 with different examples 14:20:45 for instance, remove the gunshots and swearing from 'Memento'. would it be rated G? 14:21:41 i think you need to have purple animals to get the G rating 14:22:26 * Psychephylax goes to the lab 14:22:32 my knowledge of gcc switches just crawled out my ear. does anyone remember how to compile a shared lib? 14:22:42 -fPIC -shared 14:23:07 thx 14:23:26 what's the -fPIC mean? 14:23:56 good question 14:24:12 I don't remember 14:24:41 "Options starting with -g, -f, -m, -O or -W are automatically passed on to 14:24:43 the various sub-processes invoked by gcc" 14:25:41 " -fPIC If supported for the target machine, emit position- 14:25:43 independent code, suitable for dynamic linking, 14:25:43 even if branches need large displacements. 14:26:26 the math lib hangs out in libm, right? 14:26:59 vinod: Thanks. 14:32:01 it works! 14:32:21 I will now be know as 'scheme lord denshi' 14:34:23 Cool! but, i think that should be (scheme lord denshi) 14:34:45 i think you're right 14:35:29 well, mod_scheme works. 14:35:34 so far. 14:36:20 wow - that's impressive 14:39:10 markd2 (~Snak@h166-102-041-014.ip.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 14:39:40 talli_ is now known as talli 14:39:47 boonga la doonga 14:40:02 ah, the language of love 14:40:48 stop with that crazy urdu 14:41:02 screw this; I'm going hiking. l8r. 14:41:23 denshi is now known as denshi-hikin 14:41:28 denshi-hikin is now known as denshi-hiking 14:42:02 where does one hike in tejas? 14:42:22 isn't the place one big flat ches - i mean state? 14:42:39 cro (~cro@defiant.nca.asu.edu) has joined #openacs 14:42:51 3900+2247+3900+2472+3900 14:42:51 16419 14:42:54 oops 14:43:20 visit and you'll see 14:43:46 a better question might be: where does one boonga in NYC? 14:44:04 in the la doonga 14:45:10 vinod, find the la doonga 14:48:14 no thanks - i don't wanna go anywhere that talli is boonga-ing 15:00:41 pete_openmsg has quit ("KVIrc 2.1.1 'Monolith'") 15:01:26 vinod has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:07:58 markd2 has quit ("wheeeee") 15:09:30 xemacs5 (~chatzilla@user245.net101.pa.sprint-hsd.net) has joined #openacs 15:10:15 hi xemacs5 15:10:21 hi davb 15:10:25 quick q 15:10:28 anyone know what the publish_status field is for in cr_items? 15:10:30 ok 15:10:39 I just loaded up the beta release 15:10:50 I had worked with it in January in pre-beta 15:11:00 but now I can't find what I am looking for 15:11:17 how do I give someone admin permissions on everything? 15:11:37 under 3.x you make them a member of system wide admin group 15:11:41 there is a secret acs_object I think. possibly object_id 0 15:12:07 you have to give them admin permission on this object I think 15:12:56 but there should be a command to set that. 15:17:26 You do it from the /permissions page. 15:20:02 thanks cro 15:20:10 sure 15:20:20 thank you 15:20:30 I assume I give them perms on Object 0 15:20:30 no prob 15:20:34 correct 15:21:14 grant admin on object 0 to 15:21:22 right 15:21:38 thank you very much 16:51:10 xemacs5 has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.6 [Mozilla rv:1.0rc1/20020419]") 17:11:03 kapil_ is now known as kapil 17:26:35 kapil is now known as lethedrinker 17:35:16 denshi-hiking is now known as denshi 17:49:10 how was the hiking? 17:57:14 cro has quit ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 18:06:12 cro (~cro@defiant.nca.asu.edu) has joined #openacs 18:08:14 talilee (~talli@xd84b5c59.ip.ggn.net) has joined #openacs 18:15:19 Psychephylax: you here? 18:16:21 talilee: you here? 18:16:29 paje: you here? 18:16:30 rbm: no idea 18:16:37 paje: botsnack 18:16:37 thanks rbm :) 18:17:11 hi rbm 18:17:26 hey rbm 18:17:44 anyone know of a good place to buy a processor and some SCSI ultraIII drives? 18:18:04 newegg.com 18:18:05 somebody said newegg.com was good. I made a wish list, then I setup an accont, they did not lost your wish list. 18:20:17 see, even paje recommends them 18:20:21 paje: somebody needs better english skills :) 18:20:22 rbm: sorry... 18:20:30 that's me :) 18:20:36 more typing skills... 18:22:50 paje: forget newegg.com 18:22:50 rbm: I forgot newegg.com 18:23:17 paje: newegg.com is good. If you make a wish list and set up an account, your wishlist won't be lost. 18:23:17 OK, rbm. 18:48:43 lol 18:49:09 paje, revive davb 18:49:10 * paje gives davb CPR 18:52:48 Psychephylax: you wanna a reason to goof off from work a bit? 18:52:53 i need a price check 18:55:42 paje: Psychephylax is the master of the egg 18:55:43 ...but psychephylax is spork... 18:55:51 paje: Psychephylax is also the master of the egg 18:55:52 okay, davb. 19:02:24 $| = 1 19:02:25 This could only be a Perl statement 19:07:48 desropolis (desropolis@67.40.196.121) has joined #openacs 19:07:57 * rbm laves to watch star wars 19:08:00 Woohoo 19:08:05 s/laves/leaves/ 19:09:12 hey de 19:09:15 hey desropolis 19:09:16 desropolis is probably setting up a user as one obj, a thing being rated as another obj and the rating as the relation between em 19:09:45 hey all. 19:09:47 desropolis: i got your email, i'm not at all the personthat could answer that question 19:10:07 ah, ok. 19:10:52 Do you think anyone here would know? 19:11:10 yes, for sure people here would know 19:12:30 Alright...I recently had to change my static IPs now I can access FTP and SSH but not AOLServer on my server (RH 7.1) is there something I need to set in AOL? 19:16:44 the scheme lord returneth 19:28:27 desropolis: did you set the ip address in the aolserver config file? 19:29:46 my config file has set address "24.58.162.46" 19:30:20 which is really set in the nssock section 19:30:27 ns_param Address $address 19:30:55 oh, I'll check it out. Thanks. 19:31:07 np 19:32:29 desro: I think if you leave the address declaration out nssock will listen on all available interfaces, but I'm not positive about that. 19:32:39 It's setting address to [ns_info address], how's that 19:33:01 what matters is what's in the [nssock] section 19:33:06 e.g. 19:33:12 (example forthcoming...) 19:33:33 ns_section "ns/server/${servername}/module/nssock" 19:33:33 ns_param port $httpport 19:33:33 ns_param hostname $hostname 19:33:33 ns_param address $address 19:34:34 Hey, it's working! 19:34:43 You guys ROCK. 19:35:07 nah, we just don't get out much :) 19:35:15 :-D 19:36:15 Anyone see Attack of the Clones? Was there a midnight show anywhere? 19:36:26 i would expect everywhere. 19:37:02 I saw Spider Man opening night. I won't go through that again. 19:37:19 it will be like that for a couple of weeks i expect for sw 19:38:09 Geez. Wonder if it will break Spidey's freshly-minted box office record. 19:49:05 talilee has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:49:20 talilee (~talli@xd84b5c59.ip.ggn.net) has joined #openacs 19:50:38 this looks cool 19:50:39 http://www.usercreations.com/spring/ 19:50:50 hey chump is gone 19:51:53 argh 19:52:22 this looks cool too: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conceptobjects/ 19:53:21 oacs-chump (~oacs-chum@alb-24-58-160-28.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 19:53:49 http://www.usercreations.com/spring/ 19:53:50 A: http://www.usercreations.com/spring/ from davb 19:54:00 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conceptobjects/ 19:54:00 B: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conceptobjects/ from davb 20:30:19 bye, bbl 20:30:21 davb has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0rc2/20020510]") 20:32:03 Can anyone tell me why a valid select statement would cause the following: 20:32:04 exception NSDB, "Query was not a statement returning rows." 20:32:05 ? 20:32:26 No rows returned? How are you calling it? db_1row? 20:32:57 db_multirow dimensions dimensions_select { 20:32:58 select 20:32:58 dimension_id, 20:32:58 name, 20:32:58 description 20:32:58 from 20:33:00 gr_dimensions 20:33:04 order by 20:33:04 name 20:33:06 } 20:33:15 those are tabs 20:33:47 Isn' t there an "if_no_rows" clause to db_multirow? 20:34:14 It was working... I know there are rows there, too. 20:34:45 Oracle or PG? 20:34:49 PG 20:35:12 And if you feed that query to psql it comes out fine? 20:35:46 I'm using pgAdmin on winXP, but yeah. 20:36:20 You don't have an errant xql file lying around do you? 20:36:45 No. Wait a second. It may be a permissions thing. 20:41:15 Damn. That wasn't it. 20:44:46 Ah. I DID fix it and IE was caching. Bastids. 20:44:58 :-D 20:45:13 Thanks again. 20:45:29 sure. 20:50:13 gotta go 20:50:16 desropolis has quit () 21:22:54 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 21:27:29 yo dave! 21:28:33 saw your posting about the search indexer dealing with non-live versions, and just have to say: cool, improve it! 21:29:16 i wonder why it does things the way it currently does 21:44:21 I think the goal was to always change it. or maybe the packages are supposed to determine what is indexable. 21:44:29 which is really a better way to do it. 21:52:04 always change it by the package writer you mean? 21:52:32 yes, packages should determine what is indexable 21:54:30 i think. in some contexts it makes sense for old content to remain searchable, in others not. (although i can't think of any examples now) 22:48:58 cro has quit ("catcha later") 23:32:39 anyone involved in etp2 alive? 23:35:09 paje killed davb. sorry. 23:35:09 denshi: huh? 23:35:15 paje, admit it! 23:35:15 denshi: sorry... 23:35:19 see!! 23:39:15 at least he is sorry 23:39:32 paje, who's next? 23:39:32 no idea, til 23:39:43 paje, me? 23:39:43 you are still missing some fonts i am afraid ... for example the url's in the oacs sitemap wont show up 23:40:14 scary 23:42:07 run, til! 23:44:22 til is now known as somebodyelse 23:45:05 paje, what do you think of somebodyelse? 23:45:05 denshi: no idea 23:45:28 paje, denshi? 23:45:28