IRC log of openacs on 2002-05-15

Timestamps are in UTC.

00:19:54 [davb]

slow bboard today

00:22:59 [Psychephylax]

watch tv

00:25:05 [davb]

heh

00:25:10 [davb]

i don't watch tv.

00:25:17 [davb]

movies

00:25:17 [Psychephylax]

heh

00:25:22 [Psychephylax]

freak

00:29:49 [markd2]

I don't watch TV or movies

00:30:17 [davb]

how do you watch the matrix?

00:30:55 [markd2]

I live in the matrix

00:30:59 [markd2]

"whoa"

00:31:08 [davb]

ah

00:38:49 [talli]

further proof of the mechanical anus...

00:40:06 [markd2]

heh

00:40:10 [markd2]

it'll be starring in Terminator 3

00:40:12 [markd2]

uh, so I hear

00:44:36 [talli]

it already stars in my dreams

00:47:25 [talli]

what do people use to read news groups on linux?

00:47:54 [markd2]

telnet to port 119 of the nntp host

00:48:05 [markd2]

at least Real non-pansey Men do

00:49:46 [talli]

well, i honestly would...

00:49:53 [talli]

but this quiche is just *sooooo* good

00:51:05 [markd2]

quiche me, Kate

01:02:17 [denshi]

I use tin

01:02:25 [talli]

i have committed the ultimate self-immolation

01:02:26 [markd2]

back in the day I used 'rn'

01:02:26 [denshi]

others use mutt

01:02:31 [talli]

i've subscribed to alt.postmodern

01:03:17 [talli]

only kibo can save me now

01:06:30 [Psychephylax]

heh

01:06:45 [Psychephylax]

roll call!

01:06:46 [paje]

I'm here!

01:06:52 [markd2]

sound off!

01:06:56 [Psychephylax]

whack off?

01:06:57 [Psychephylax]

whoa

01:07:02 [Psychephylax]

Mark is a perv :-D

01:07:25 [markd2]

wha?

01:07:31 [markd2]

that's just random pseudo-army talk

01:07:42 [Psychephylax]

not bad for a 2 megapixel camera at full zoom :-D

01:08:00 [talli]

is kibo missing?

01:08:02 [markd2]

not bad at all

01:08:23 [markd2]

kibo died for our sins

01:09:02 [talli]

yours, mine or the lamp post?

01:09:14 [Psychephylax]

http://drew.corrupt.net/domo.html

01:09:15 [oacs-chump]

A: http://drew.corrupt.net/domo.html from Psychephylax

01:09:20 [markd2]

actually, the peepsqueak's

01:09:21 [Psychephylax]

A:| A domo-kun site

01:09:21 [oacs-chump]

titled item A

01:09:32 [Psychephylax]

A: Mark's fetished Domo

01:09:32 [oacs-chump]

added comment A1

01:09:46 [markd2]

uh....

01:10:04 [talli]

seriously, has he taken a break from posting?

01:10:17 [Psychephylax]

lol

01:10:21 [Psychephylax]

Mark that site is funny

01:10:26 [Psychephylax]

Think of the Domo-kun!

01:10:53 [markd2]

have you seen the Domopers?

01:12:14 [Psychephylax]

yes

01:12:17 [vinod]

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01:12:23 [Psychephylax]

Developers developers developers developers!

01:12:24 [paje]

* paje dances around like a freak

01:12:31 [Psychephylax]

ROFL

01:12:37 [Psychephylax]

Paje is a riot

01:13:13 [vinod]

is Psychephylax torturing paje again?

01:13:18 [Psychephylax]

yes

01:13:20 [Psychephylax]

paje, sit down

01:13:20 [paje]

Psychephylax: i'm not following you...

01:13:23 [markd2]

poor Paje

01:13:23 [Psychephylax]

bah

01:13:23 [paje]

* paje weeps

01:13:27 [Psychephylax]

paje, attack!

01:13:28 [paje]

* paje bites Mark's ankle

01:13:33 [talli]

paje, where's kibo?

01:13:33 [paje]

kibo is truly a god

01:13:40 [markd2]

paje, where's waldo?

01:13:40 [paje]

markd2: no idea

01:13:49 [markd2]

ha! even Paje can't find him!

01:14:42 [Psychephylax]

ROFL

01:14:58 [Psychephylax]

Hey I found the painting for talli

01:15:14 [Psychephylax]

the one above "Drew Paintings Not for sale"

01:16:02 [vinod]

has anyone seen this crap?

01:16:05 [vinod]

http://www.macedition.com/bolts/bolts_20020514.php

01:16:06 [oacs-chump]

B: http://www.macedition.com/bolts/bolts_20020514.php from vinod

01:16:11 [vinod]

:-)

01:16:13 [markd2]

yeah. it SUCKS

01:16:40 [vinod]

B:| MarkD does screensavers

01:16:40 [oacs-chump]

titled item B

01:16:56 [vinod]

B: i told you he knows all the black arts

01:16:56 [oacs-chump]

added comment B1

01:17:26 [markd2]

now you know why I needed all those goats

01:17:37 [vinod]

lol

01:17:40 [markd2]

http://drew.corrupt.net/phronk.jpg

01:17:41 [oacs-chump]

C: http://drew.corrupt.net/phronk.jpg from markd2

01:17:45 [markd2]

C:|TOOOOBA!!!!

01:17:45 [oacs-chump]

titled item C

01:18:24 [Psychephylax]

that site is funz0rs

01:23:50 [Psychephylax]

lol

01:23:58 [Psychephylax]

I just read the chair background

01:25:36 [lethedrinker]

sweet, i just convinced my company to use oacs for a project

01:25:42 [markd2]

woot!

01:26:41 [vinod]

lethedrinker: cool!

01:27:11 [lethedrinker]

i'm a happy camper.. the site is a comparitive ecommerce shopping system

01:27:38 [vinod]

* vinod forsees oacs getting much better now that lethedrinker will need to use it :-)

01:30:18 [markd2]

maybe that hazmat guy should use it too

01:30:21 [markd2]

get more of the braintrust in there

01:30:23 [markd2]

:-)

01:30:33 [vinod]

which one is evil again?

01:30:37 [markd2]

talli

01:30:42 [vinod]

ahhh - right

01:31:47 [Psychephylax]

can't we all just get some pants?

01:32:00 [markd2]

* markd2 pants

01:32:59 [vinod]

* vinod rants

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01:36:17 [vinod]

markd2: i enjoyed the article. objective c seems pretty clean

01:37:04 [vinod]

you proved yourself to be a unix geek with this line though: I'm not smart enough to make an alias work, so I just fire up a Terminal and make a Unix symbolic link (symlink)

01:37:10 [vinod]

:-)

01:37:13 [markd2]

heh

01:37:22 [markd2]

thanks

01:37:58 [vinod]

so all you have to do to write a screensaver is subclass ScreenSaver and override animateOneFrame

01:38:04 [markd2]

yeah

01:38:16 [markd2]

scary thing is I tried making the alias work for a pretty long time

01:38:17 [vinod]

that's cool

01:38:32 [markd2]

they will follow a file around if you move it, but break if you remove the file

01:38:36 [markd2]

which is what the build process does

01:38:43 [vinod]

weird

01:39:04 [vinod]

doesn't the alias just make a symlink anyway?

01:39:10 [markd2]

nope

01:39:21 [markd2]

it's an artifact from the OS9 days

01:39:29 [markd2]

there's information in there that uniquely identifies the file

01:39:38 [vinod]

that's silly

01:39:38 [markd2]

maybe an inode equivalent

01:39:44 [markd2]

so you can rename and move it around anywhere on the file system

01:39:48 [markd2]

both of which will break symlinks

01:40:24 [vinod]

but i guess they need to keep aliases working like they did in os9

01:40:29 [markd2]

yeah

01:40:39 [markd2]

it's probably more like a hard link

01:53:32 [denshi]

mmmm.... beer

01:53:49 [denshi]

...and tofu

01:54:07 [markd2]

tofurkey

01:54:12 [denshi]

anyone else write any code they didn't trash today?

01:55:07 [vinod]

i didn't trash any code today!

01:55:15 [vinod]

oh... wait...

01:55:20 [vinod]

didn't write any code neither

01:56:58 [Psychephylax]

paje, feed mark

01:56:58 [paje]

* paje tosses markd2 a cookie

02:00:22 [markd2]

heh

02:00:28 [markd2]

I didn't write any code today either

02:04:57 [denshi]

i dug through maybe 8 scheme implementations before finding one that's thread safe

02:08:40 [vinod]

why?

02:08:54 [markd2]

I presume for embedding in aolclerver

02:09:12 [vinod]

ahh - that's what i thought

02:09:15 [vinod]

next question

02:09:17 [vinod]

why?

02:09:22 [markd2]

heh

02:13:37 [denshi]

imagine a language environment, embedded in a webserver, that calls a tcl_eval C function to interact with the oacs system.

02:13:56 [denshi]

oacs in any language! fun fun.

02:14:11 [markd2]

Hungal!

02:14:13 [vinod]

haha

02:14:48 [denshi]

paje, Hungal?

02:14:49 [paje]

denshi: i haven't a clue

02:14:58 [markd2]

Korean

02:15:08 [markd2]

at least that's the name of the alphabet (I think)

02:15:57 [talli]

* talli is talli in any language too!

02:15:59 [denshi]

an interesting spelling, at least.

02:16:17 [talli]

especially Urdu, the language of love.

02:16:32 [markd2]

oongawa, nihongo k'blah

02:16:37 [denshi]

okay, I'm going to go practice my Urdu. have fun.

02:16:54 [markd2]

wait! it's actually the language of loofahs! be careful!

02:17:13 [talli]

oh, damn

02:17:22 [vinod]

i'm not sure that speaking urdu in austin is going to get you any love

02:17:32 [talli]

that's right. the language of love is paje-eseish

02:17:55 [lethedrinker]

i always that the language of love was red wine

02:17:57 [talli]

paje, sorry... what haven't a clue?

02:17:57 [paje]

no idea, talli

02:18:02 [lethedrinker]

s/that/thought

02:18:13 [vinod]

or tequila

02:18:17 [talli]

ah, couldn't tellya.

02:25:36 [markd2]

nite

02:25:44 [markd2]

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02:27:55 [denshi]

well, that sucked

02:28:15 [denshi]

I used my fly Urdu skillz, and she hit me with her loofah.

02:29:58 [vinod]

haha

02:30:26 [vinod]

i have to check, but hitting you with her loofah may be part of the mating process

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02:34:26 [jim]

hi john

02:34:34 [jim]

hi john

02:34:37 [jim]

!

02:35:58 [talli]

alert! alert! alert!

02:36:02 [jcassady]

hi jim

02:36:05 [talli]

new geek in da house!

02:36:26 [vinod]

hi jcassady

02:36:31 [denshi]

we have a house?

02:36:43 [denshi]

let alone 'da' house?

02:37:00 [jim]

that's my buddy John...

02:37:31 [jim]

among other things, he was an original forth implementor

02:37:54 [jim]

and if you wanna know how I got involved in *ACS...

02:38:00 [jim]

blame john :)

02:38:01 [talli]

* talli prepares to ask another dumb question

02:38:05 [jim]

he told me :)

02:38:09 [talli]

what is an original fourth implementor?

02:38:24 [jim]

forth is a stack-based programming language

02:39:32 [denshi]

jim, you get all the cool friends

02:39:43 [Psychephylax]

* Psychephylax yawns

02:40:40 [jcassady]

gotta go, will check in later

02:41:10 [jim]

he's got a copy of the aduni lectures, and is studying SICP... he also tutors for it at nearby school

02:41:23 [Psychephylax]

shuweeet

02:41:37 [Psychephylax]

Soyo even has the Linux drivers for their onboard sound

02:41:39 [Psychephylax]

Whoa

02:41:55 [jim]

Hey John, you still here?

02:42:09 [jim]

guess not... ok

02:42:28 [jim]

who's soyo? mobo mfgr?

02:44:05 [jim]

talli: do you have a debian box laying around?

02:44:36 [jim]

(reason debian, gforth and other forths have easy install path)

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02:46:30 [lethedrinker]

* lethedrinker notes that someone wrote a zope product that embeds a forth interpreter

02:46:31 [lethedrinker]

ick

02:46:34 [jim]

but freebsd has pretty easy way too

02:48:58 [davb]

* davb remembers forth on the atari 800

02:49:07 [jim]

I wrote one of those :)

02:49:14 [jim]

well, not wrote

02:49:41 [jim]

but implemented and greatly enhanced the low-level stuff

02:49:49 [davb]

wow

02:50:16 [davb]

denshi: I wrote some visual basic that actually works today :)

02:50:21 [davb]

but now I am going to bed.

02:50:52 [jim]

wow, takes lots of energy to write working vb code

02:50:57 [Psychephylax]

No it doesn't

02:51:08 [talli]

when do friggin' domains expire and become available?

02:51:09 [Psychephylax]

You just drag things over and add some statements

02:51:10 [Psychephylax]

lol

02:51:31 [jim]

note he said -working- :)

02:51:49 [davb]

talli: from netsol?

02:52:00 [davb]

never, or halfway through your registration, its random

02:52:05 [talli]

haha

02:52:18 [talli]

momentum.org expired on april, 2

02:52:34 [talli]

for some reason, it takes 30-90 days to become available

02:52:40 [talli]

1-3 mos is a long friggin time

02:52:43 [davb]

can't you preorder or something?

02:52:44 [talli]

what's the hold up?

02:52:49 [davb]

it should take like 10 seconds.

02:52:52 [jim]

was momentum.org yours originally?

02:52:52 [talli]

i have!

02:53:09 [talli]

no, it wasn't

02:53:12 [jim]

or did someone else not pay their bill?

02:53:37 [talli]

it's just expired. i guess they are no longer interested in the domain

02:54:01 [jim]

.org... so it doesn't have the same rules as a .com

02:54:13 [talli]

oh, really? didn't know that

02:55:04 [jim]

might not be easy to get a .org; you might have to show non-profit org status

02:55:17 [jim]

not totally sure about that

02:55:19 [davb]

when did that change?

02:55:39 [jim]

I thought it was always harder to get a .org

02:55:43 [davb]

problem is if netsol had it, they won't release it into the wild.

02:55:48 [davb]

not for me :)

02:56:21 [jim]

so they're in effect camping on the domain

02:56:27 [talli]

shit

02:56:37 [talli]

they were the registrars

02:56:46 [jim]

that's typical

02:57:51 [jim]

they'd reg it for someone and either they run the servers for it or transfer them over

02:58:39 [jim]

don't let that faze you, just talk to them

02:59:24 [jim]

davb: .lrn still need oracle?

03:00:01 [talli]

talk to who?

03:00:11 [jim]

network solutions

03:00:15 [talli]

oh yeah?

03:00:31 [jim]

if they have the domain, I guess they're the ones to talk to

03:00:32 [davb]

jim: I think so, I haven't looked. new-portal has been ported at least.

03:00:48 [jim]

is .lrn GPL?

03:00:51 [talli]

no, someone else has the domain. networksolutions was the registrar

03:01:30 [jim]

howbout momentum.net/

03:01:33 [jim]

?

03:01:35 [davb]

i think so, but didn't check.

03:01:47 [talli]

but the domain registration expired on 4/2/02

03:01:55 [talli]

momentum.net and .com are taken

03:02:46 [davb]

"dotLRN is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the

03:02:54 [jim]

cool :)

03:03:01 [jim]

what'

03:03:14 [jim]

what's .lrn for, generally/one-liner?

03:03:23 [denshi]

on getting a .org, you can buy 'em like any other.

03:03:32 [talli]

yeah, i know

03:03:40 [talli]

but they don't become available immediately

03:03:46 [davb]

dotlrn is a course management system.

03:03:54 [jim]

hmm

03:03:55 [denshi]

demonstrating non-profit is only relevant in defense, or something.

03:04:13 [talli]

i'm not worried about hat

03:04:32 [jim]

oddjob's hat is pretty sharp tho :)

03:05:03 [davb]

well I am really going now :)

03:05:11 [jim]

davb: nite

03:05:24 [davb]

bye

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03:06:44 [talli]

the friggin domain won't be deleted from the registry for 30-90 days, though

03:08:02 [talli]

http://snapnames.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/snapnames.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_sid=kTCxh8fg&p_lva=&p_refno=010927-000506&p_created=1001627474&p_sp=cF9ncmlkc29ydD0mcF9yb3dfY250PTQ0JnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=

03:08:04 [oacs-chump]

D: http://snapnames.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/snapnames.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_sid=kTCxh8fg&p_lva=&p_refno=010927-000506&p_created=1001627474&p_sp=cF9ncmlkc29ydD0mcF9yb3dfY250PTQ0JnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li= from talli

03:08:18 [talli]

djg: Answer to the question: Will I get a domain name when it expires?

03:08:37 [talli]

djg: When a domain name expires, it enters a "grace" period, during which the current registrant can still renew. The "grace" period, over which SnapNames has no control, can last from 30 to 90 days or more depending on circumstances. Once that period is over, the Registrar will issue a delete command to the Registry, and approximately 5 days later the domain name will become available. For more detail please see the deletion cycle

03:08:37 [talli]

SnapNames Product page.

03:43:27 [Psychephylax]

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06:16:55 [hazmat]

hmm... why is openacs.org so slow?

06:17:08 [hazmat]

* hazmat wonders if its a hardware problem

06:19:19 [hazmat]

paje: .ping openacs.org

06:19:19 [paje]

hazmat: excuse me?

06:19:48 [hazmat]

looks like it just went down.

06:19:53 [hazmat]

help...

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07:18:15 [hazmat]

hmm.. its back

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12:47:51 [davb]

hi

12:48:30 [vinod]

hey davb

12:48:36 [davb]

hi vinod

12:48:42 [davb]

how's it going?

12:49:01 [vinod]

pretty good. just stressed about moving, etc :-)

12:49:38 [davb]

yes, that is pretty exciting.

12:49:41 [vinod]

when is teleportation technology going to get to market?

12:51:46 [davb]

that would be cool. just sell all your stuff and get new stuff.

12:52:52 [vinod]

heh.

12:53:01 [vinod]

* vinod adds teleportation to davb's list

12:53:12 [davb]

aigh!

12:53:31 [vinod]

:-)

12:56:40 [davb]

ok, i put it right after "visit the moon"

12:57:01 [davb]

actually, that should be before, makes that one easier.

12:58:58 [Psychephylax]

* Psychephylax yawns

13:01:03 [davb]

Psychephylax: wake up! i already wrote three queries this morning

13:01:21 [Psychephylax]

ok hold on

13:01:23 [Psychephylax]

let me catch up to you

13:01:37 [Psychephylax]

select * from cookie_jar

13:01:52 [Psychephylax]

insert values (cookie) into mark

13:02:06 [Psychephylax]

drop table cookie_jar

13:02:36 [Psychephylax]

Dave

13:02:44 [Psychephylax]

You're gonna get mad ;-D

13:02:47 [davb]

heh

13:02:51 [Psychephylax]

but I plan on buying a second 2100UZ

13:02:51 [davb]

I am?

13:02:56 [davb]

wow

13:03:03 [Psychephylax]

not right away

13:03:11 [davb]

not really, it is not as if I actually have any time to use a camera

13:03:15 [Psychephylax]

but definetly before the 23 at the local ChumpUSA go bye bye

13:03:17 [davb]

good idea though. a backup.

13:03:32 [Psychephylax]

I've spoken to some very knowledgable people

13:03:46 [Psychephylax]

It looks like the 2100UZ will be one tough cookie to beat even with high pixel count cameras

13:03:59 [davb]

well, noone else can zoom like that.

13:04:05 [Psychephylax]

Precisely

13:04:12 [davb]

except a pro camera with interchangable lenses.

13:04:15 [Psychephylax]

I even found out the real reason they discontinued them

13:04:23 [davb]

oh?

13:04:23 [paje]

oh are you afraid the /. guys are going to sue us for stealing their hard work?

13:04:35 [davb]

paje, botsnack

13:04:35 [paje]

:)

13:06:53 [Psychephylax]

Shuuuuweeeeet

13:07:05 [Psychephylax]

They have 23 cameras available

13:07:32 [Psychephylax]

And he said they sell 3-5 a week which is probably more like 1-2 a week with all the 3-5 mpx cameras out

13:07:44 [Psychephylax]

* Psychephylax saves his pennies

13:07:58 [Psychephylax]

paje, sleep

13:07:58 [paje]

* paje goes to sleep

13:08:36 [davb]

so Psychephylax what is the secret reason?

13:16:35 [Psychephylax]

For?

13:17:57 [davb]

discontinuing the camera

13:19:18 [Psychephylax]

Canon was losing sales because Olympus camera was better

13:21:42 [davb]

so?

13:21:42 [paje]

well, so is going to the play a bit like try before you buy ?

13:21:53 [davb]

heh

13:22:15 [davb]

are they not competitors?

13:22:37 [Psychephylax]

so if you're selling a vital part to your rival competitor and you can prevent it by terminating their contract to the competitor aren't you going to be benefiting?

13:23:16 [davb]

ah, olympus bought parts from canon?

13:24:10 [Psychephylax]

yep

13:24:27 [Psychephylax]

The Image Stabilization one

13:24:55 [Psychephylax]

Canon attempted to make a simiar camera with their lens with 3 megapixels but they didn't do as well of a job as Olympus

13:26:14 [Psychephylax]

And you're complaining the 2100 is big

13:26:15 [Psychephylax]

lol

13:27:18 [davb]

ah. well olympus really knows how to make digital cameras. canon is better in film cameras.

13:27:23 [Psychephylax]

yep

13:28:20 [Psychephylax]

I already have the attachments

13:28:24 [Psychephylax]

Hmmm

13:28:39 [Psychephylax]

What camera did you say you have?

13:34:38 [Psychephylax]

Yoohooo

13:34:39 [Psychephylax]

dave

13:34:41 [Psychephylax]

wake up dave

13:34:43 [Psychephylax]

paje!

13:34:48 [Psychephylax]

Paje, revive davb

13:34:48 [paje]

* paje gives davb CPR

13:44:46 [Psychephylax]

* Psychephylax goes to jury duty

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13:50:58 [davb]

oops, D400

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14:42:27 [rbm]

morning all

14:43:00 [rbm]

Wow, a PostgreSQL book in Portuguese was published

14:43:00 [davb]

hi rbm

14:43:03 [davb]

cool

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14:45:41 [davb]

hi vinod

14:45:49 [vinod]

hey davb

14:46:10 [vinod]

have you used docbook or xsltproc?

14:46:39 [davb]

xsltproc very little.

14:46:54 [davb]

just for testing the chump.

14:47:43 [vinod]

i'm trying to regenerate the oacs-docs and it's complaining that it can't find the ids that the xref tags are pointing to

14:47:57 [vinod]

which is weird because i've never run into that error before

14:48:29 [davb]

that is beyond me ...

14:48:50 [vinod]

me too :-)

14:49:05 [vinod]

i'll investigate some more though

14:49:40 [davb]

ok.

14:54:17 [rbm]

vinod: oh. I haven't run into that error

14:56:04 [vinod]

rbm: yeah - it's really weird. would you be able to regenerate the docs for me when you get a chance so i can confirm that i've screwed something up?

15:05:22 [rbm]

vinod: sure

15:06:35 [vinod]

cool - thanks!

15:10:36 [rbm]

vinod: what command are you using to generate them?

15:13:09 [vinod]

i go into acs-core-docs/www/ and then do: xsltproc xml/openacs.xsl xml/index.xml

15:14:31 [rbm]

XRef to nonexistent id: subsites

15:14:37 [rbm]

is that what you're seeing?

15:15:11 [vinod]

yeah

15:15:30 [rbm]

ugh

15:15:31 [vinod]

and then the html files have '???' where they're supposed to have links

15:15:39 [rbm]

crap

15:16:02 [rbm]

I don't know what that is. I'll check the xsltproc changelog. Maybe a newer version in Debian has something weird built-in

15:21:29 [rbm]

vinod: I don't see anything specific to this in the changelog, both Debian's and xltproc

15:23:07 [vinod]

oh well. i'm going to start from an empty document and build stuff in until it breaks. maybe i'll figure something out :-)

15:24:25 [rbm]

what's different in the links that are breaking versus the ones that are not?

15:24:51 [vinod]

as far as i can tell, every <xref linkend="blah"> is broken

15:25:00 [rbm]

oh crap

15:26:24 [rbm]

vinod: I'm going to re-run with --verbose this thime

15:27:40 [rbm]

vinod: BTW, I got my pen and papers a few days ago. Thanks much, again.

15:28:03 [vinod]

cool - np at all!

15:28:31 [rbm]

vinod: I can't find any malaysian food places around here :(

15:28:45 [rbm]

(it was malaysian wasn't it?)

15:29:07 [vinod]

bummer (yup, it was malaysian)

15:29:19 [vinod]

you'll have to move out here :-)

15:29:31 [rbm]

:)

15:30:57 [rbm]

bbiab

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16:19:06 [davb]

ohoh, i have a question.

16:19:14 [davb]

would network traffic to a printer cause it to jam?

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16:23:17 [talli]

hey guys

16:23:20 [talli]

who's home today?

16:23:22 [davb]

hi

16:24:34 [cro]

davb: you mean paper jam?

16:24:48 [davb]

yeah

16:25:17 [davb]

the printer repair guy said that was the problem.

16:25:27 [cro]

I follow BugTraq and I've never heard of that--what kind of printeR?

16:25:34 [davb]

HP 5si

16:25:40 [davb]

I figured he was making it up.

16:30:34 [Psychephylax]

lunch break

16:30:53 [Psychephylax]

Dave, how many megapixels is the D400?

16:31:07 [davb]

1.3

16:31:10 [Psychephylax]

ah

16:31:14 [Psychephylax]

And you're gettig a new digicam?

16:31:20 [davb]

not real soon.

16:31:23 [Psychephylax]

What were you looking for

16:31:37 [davb]

I want an e10 :)

16:31:49 [Psychephylax]

heh

16:32:13 [Psychephylax]

I was considering selling my 2040Z so I can buy another 2100 and save money for a 3040 or 4040

16:32:13 [davb]

basically, I have always looked at the olympus models that are between $1000-$1500

16:32:38 [davb]

that would be cool, but I don't have any funds

16:32:55 [Psychephylax]

heh

16:33:02 [Psychephylax]

i was going to sell it considerably cheap

16:33:10 [Psychephylax]

~300 or so

16:33:24 [davb]

yeah, that would be a great deal, but out of my price range

16:33:35 [Psychephylax]

oh well

16:33:45 [Psychephylax]

I can always have 4 digicams :-D

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17:05:29 [vinod]

rbm: i got it to work, but the solution is wacky

17:06:25 [vinod]

index.xml has 3 lines of comments near the top explaining the use of &version; etc.

17:06:59 [vinod]

move those comments so that they're not the first thing in the file (i.e. underneath the entities) and everything works

17:07:42 [vinod]

* vinod extracts his head from the hole he's just smashed in the wall

17:15:00 [vinod]

ok - need to use the phone. seeya

17:15:21 [til]

hi everybody

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17:36:11 [denshi]

morning, er, afternoon

17:36:58 [talli]

hey denshi

17:37:54 [denshi]

I need to warn vinod of a post-move danger: I'm sleeping like 12 hours a day

17:38:24 [denshi]

maybe NYC will keep him from doing that

17:39:49 [cro]

I hate moving

17:40:02 [talli]

denshi: that's from too much time with scheme

17:40:11 [denshi]

whoops!

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20:01:52 [talli]

hey guys

20:04:50 [denshi]

yo

20:05:01 [denshi]

what''s moving, talli?

20:05:20 [talli]

no much

20:05:21 [talli]

you?

20:05:22 [paje]

hmmm... you is god's gift to irc

20:05:29 [talli]

that's true

20:06:41 [denshi]

updating my net presence; looking for austin jobs; polishing mod_scheme; writing the mod_nsd2 spec

20:07:00 [denshi]

oh, and watching my roommate weed the garden in a bikini

20:08:26 [talli]

no way

20:09:22 [denshi]

yeah, mod_scheme did finish pretty quick

20:09:29 [denshi]

surprised me too

20:25:36 [davb]

bye

20:25:39 [davb]

have fun

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* rbm goes home

23:55:39 [Psychephylax]

moo

23:55:39 [Psychephylax]

?

23:57:34 [jim]

oow