00:07:38 talli is now known as barstool 00:14:56 Okay, how many hits do you think a p133 w/48MB of memory could server, while running 5 others sites, a mail server and and IRC server? :) 00:19:35 Are any of them oacs sites and is the databsae on the same box? 00:23:54 markd2 (~Snak@h166-102-030-081.ip.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 00:24:37 paje, spank barstool 00:27:15 paje (~paje@slxwy.dorms.usu.edu) has joined #openacs 00:27:15 say hi to paje 00:27:24 hi paje! 00:27:28 paje, again! 00:27:28 * paje spanks talli 00:27:31 woot! 00:27:35 til has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 00:28:46 cro has quit ("Time to go home...") 00:28:54 til (~tils@62.116.19.11) has joined #openacs 00:29:41 anyone seen "clockstoppers"? 00:31:08 paje, you bastard~ 00:31:08 uglybarstool: excuse me? 00:31:13 uglybarstool is now known as talli 00:31:44 the tilde is the ultimate offensive punctuation 00:32:05 tilde? 00:32:05 tilde is, like, the ultimate offensive punctuation 00:38:04 the twiddle 00:38:55 hey 00:39:01 paje seen rbm 00:39:01 rbm was last seen on #openacs 6 minutes and 56 seconds ago, saying: tilde? [Mon May 13 18:33:02 2002] 00:41:17 totally random question 00:41:18 when you introduce someone to the command line / shell for the first time, what kind of examples do you use? 00:41:27 umm 00:41:38 Well, I prefer to take out the fattest book on shells I can find... 00:41:40 cd /home/talli/pr0n 00:41:45 Then I introduce that to their head 00:41:48 xv *.jpg 00:41:58 you freaks 00:42:00 and hope you have a gig of RAM to hold all the images in memory 00:42:01 Where's Roberto? 00:42:07 paje murdered him 00:42:07 markd2: sorry... 00:42:14 hahahaha 00:42:17 bad paje! 00:42:32 Anyone else find that? 00:42:34 ack 00:42:38 anyone else find that funny? 00:44:54 yup 00:45:14 :) 00:48:11 christ almighty!!!! 00:48:41 where the hell do i put apps in order for users other than root to access them??? 00:48:42 * markd2 looks for the lightning bolt 00:48:59 /usr/local/bin ? 00:48:59 hmmm... /usr/local/bin is the better place... 00:49:07 that's what i thought! 00:49:09 no go 00:49:27 ln -s /usr/local/Acrobat4/bin/acroread /user/local/bin 00:49:29 are you wanting to put apps there as a normal user? 00:49:33 that seems right, doesn't it? 00:49:38 no, i'm root 00:49:41 uh, you have 'user' on the second path 00:49:47 ah, ok 00:49:53 whoops 00:49:56 i meant 00:50:02 ln -s /usr/local/Acrobat4/bin/acroread /usr/local/bin 00:50:09 that should work 00:50:11 what's happening when you try to run it? 00:50:31 I use /usr/local/bin is the best 00:50:45 final-friggin-ly 00:51:00 hot diggity damn 00:51:52 markd2 has quit ("wheeeee") 00:55:05 talli has quit (Remote closed the connection) 01:05:26 markd2 (~Snak@h166-102-041-128.ip.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 01:25:35 talli (~talli@pool-162-83-235-2.ny5030.east.verizon.net) has joined #openacs 01:25:56 pake, seen cro? 01:26:00 paje, seen cro? 01:26:01 cro was last seen on #openacs 70 days, 2 hours, 19 minutes and 17 seconds ago, saying: so I can't check directly, sorry. [Mon Mar 4 16:07:41 2002] 01:26:06 wrong... 01:29:47 heh 01:30:00 paje was in therapy and missed cro's previous visit 01:30:00 markd2: excuse me? 01:30:06 you're excused 01:34:33 arjunsanyal (~arjun@pool-151-202-170-185.ny5030.east.verizon.net) has joined #openacs 01:35:29 ugh... no a/c at work.. stifling heat... 01:37:44 vinod (~vinod@207-172-216-56.s818.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com) has joined #openacs 01:39:10 oh, so vinod has decided to appear 01:39:57 shoot... didn't think talli would be here 01:40:02 vinod: when do you arrive in NYC? i want to make sure i have my gas mask by then... 01:40:35 june 1st, but i was there off and on last week 01:42:33 i finally found a place, so now i gotta start doing all the annoying moving tasks 01:42:35 ugh. i thought there was something in the air.. 01:42:42 where's the place? 01:43:14 :-) in gramercy - 22nd and lex 01:43:20 nice 01:43:29 hoitie toitie, too 01:43:31 yeah - it's right on the 6 line 01:43:34 heh 01:43:42 are you going to get a little dog and walk around in fur coats? 01:43:42 i insisted that i live near julia roberts 01:43:57 wait... that's my fantasy. HANDS OFF! 01:44:02 haha 01:44:42 there's a restaurant right on the corner called Rolf's 01:45:03 do they have gitdown energy drink? 01:45:18 heh - i didn't have the guts to go inside :-) 01:45:21 or at least pizza? and FreeBSD? 01:45:42 that's good. your guts probably wouldn't have stayed inside for very long otherwise. 01:45:48 haha 01:47:34 rzolf (~rolf@badgertronics.com) has joined #openacs 01:47:40 my markov chainbot 01:47:45 alterted me 01:47:47 to a disturbance 01:47:50 in this channel. 01:48:10 but it looks like everything is ok. 01:48:11 rzolf has left #openacs 01:48:16 haha 01:51:10 whoa 01:52:06 the force is strong in that one 01:55:27 vinod! 01:55:37 yuck 01:55:40 vinod factorial 01:56:58 fortunately vinod is equivalent to zero 01:57:02 not exactly 01:57:14 guess it's not as bad as a vinod pictorial 01:57:22 haha 01:57:28 vinod! evaluates to a complex number 01:57:49 with an unusual number of sixes in it 01:58:08 vinod, what's the hurt on your new place? 01:58:17 paje, botsmack 01:58:18 * paje slumps into a purple haze 01:58:20 more than i want to admit 01:59:21 * vinod looks to make money on the side selling drugs 02:00:18 wouldn't "Rolf's" down the street have that market covered? 02:01:00 rzolf (~rolf@badgertronics.com) has joined #openacs 02:01:01 heh - good point 02:01:04 hi. 02:01:09 howdy 02:01:21 i know I have a checkered past 02:01:36 i have checkered pants too! 02:01:40 but, i had no idea what those groups i was funding were doing with the money. 02:01:51 lol 02:01:59 maybe that explains BIlly Idol... 02:02:06 i blame my accountants. 02:02:22 who all fled to the carribean. 02:03:24 vinod: can i reference the log during your trial for running a prescription drug ring? 02:03:39 Vinod, placebo pusher 02:03:50 sure, if i can reference all your comments when you run for office :-) 02:03:52 in any case. i need to get back to enjoying this biggie sized meal. 02:04:02 BLACKMAIL! 02:04:02 rzolf has left #openacs 02:04:23 make you a deal... 02:04:51 i'll keep quiet on the log if you siphone all the supermodels hooked on diet pills to me 02:04:52 * vinod doesn't need another brooklyn bridge 02:05:06 there's only one, baby... 02:05:25 yeah, i know - i bought it from you last year 02:05:26 just like this piece of sun-drenched beach front in arizona i've got for you... 02:06:24 so - the stalking business is slow now? 02:08:32 yeah. they've taken to posting the court orders on the lamp posts around town. 02:08:38 there's no where to hide anymore 02:09:01 Hey, at least I just have to stay out of the post office! 02:09:45 damn government keeping us down 02:10:06 Ummm..yea..that is the ticket! 02:10:19 see... i was joking. 02:10:23 with shagster, i'm just not sure... 02:10:27 haha 02:10:42 Oh..thanks! :P 02:10:46 i mean, there are a lot of balls in Ohio 02:10:58 Less than before, hehe 02:11:12 [to talli]: So what you need on the calendar project? 02:11:15 haha 02:13:38 shagster: we're still working everything out 02:13:45 right now, we're putting together the specs 02:14:11 we're going to "merge" with the libical project: http://www.softwarestudio.org/libical 02:14:54 as the non-techie, i must admit i don't know what the hell we need right now 02:17:29 rzolf haha 02:17:38 * lethedrinker waits for a bot appearance 02:17:49 * lethedrinker waits for godot 02:19:18 godot (toddg@linux128.ma.utexas.edu) has joined #openacs 02:20:05 godot has quit (Client Quit) 02:25:23 arjunsanyal has left #openacs 02:28:14 * lethedrinker is stunned by godot's appearance 02:29:53 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 02:31:29 * markd2 is stunned by talli's phaser 02:31:46 i have a phaser? 02:32:00 i thought it was just a vibrato - i mean... i have a phaser! 02:32:41 must go watch basketball 02:32:50 talli is now known as uglybballwatcher 02:33:42 hello davb-- everyone is taking stock of their armaments 02:33:49 sounds scary 02:47:34 how does one change their localhost information? 02:47:42 is it in /etc/hosts? 02:49:52 * uglybballwatcher damns everyone to hell 02:54:48 give me the problem again 02:55:35 how do i change the localhost of my box? 02:56:03 i guess it's not in /etc/hosts... so where is it? 02:57:16 redhat? 02:57:28 linuxconf or something like that 02:57:56 ah, ok 02:58:01 and i think it is in /etc/hssts 02:58:52 no, /etc/hosts is for name lookups 02:59:05 got it, thanks 02:59:29 brb 02:59:56 uglybballwatcher has quit (Remote closed the connection) 03:00:16 talli (~talli@pool-162-83-235-2.ny5030.east.verizon.net) has joined #openacs 03:00:39 appreciate the help, fellas 03:01:38 yes! 03:01:46 I've found a thread-safe scheme! 03:05:10 woohoo! 03:09:08 hey davb! 03:09:17 hi vinod 03:10:06 hehehehe 03:10:07 Sup 03:10:13 * Psychephylax pinches dave 03:10:19 hi Psychephylax 03:10:23 Sup V 03:10:32 vinod, docsnack 03:10:38 Check out my galleries: http://www.pbase.com/psychephylax 03:10:59 denshi: thanks! 03:12:40 hiya Psychephylax 03:13:32 Psychephylax: i was looking at the olympus e-10 today. that is a nice camera. 03:13:43 the E10? 03:13:45 yeah it is 03:13:49 Too expensive though :) 03:14:01 I was scouring dpreview.com Olympus forums 03:14:05 the non-SLR one 03:14:15 and I think about 80% own the 2100UZ 03:14:47 markd2 has quit ("wheeeee") 03:15:16 I couldn't resist 03:15:29 I bought it from a guy who works in a camera store 03:15:33 Psychephylax: what camera do you use for underwater photog? 03:15:45 The one the scuba place supplied :-D 03:16:06 ah, i see 03:16:08 Although it is possible to get a casing for the 2100UZ 03:16:17 Canon makes a great little underwater camera that is really inexpensive. 03:16:45 it is clostly related to my water-resistant model. film-based point and shoot they are. 03:16:48 So since the guy sold me the camera and gave me a receipt from the store....I get a year's warranty :) 03:17:48 Psychephylax: that is cool. its a nice camera, but huge 03:18:04 No way 03:18:10 the 2100? 03:18:14 it's a little bigger than my 2040Z 03:18:18 its long anyway. 03:20:09 yeah 03:20:17 jsut wait until you add the attachments :-D 03:20:25 i'm very pleased though 03:22:12 he sold me: Oly 2100UZ (500$), B-300 1.7 Tele (~200$ if you can find one), WCON-08 Wide Angle (~125$), 2x 128MB SmartMedia, 1x 64MB SmartMedia, 3 sets of AA Rechargable, 2 UV Filters, 1 Polarized Filter, 1 Cross Screen filter 03:22:20 For 750$ 03:23:14 wow 03:23:18 i want one! 03:24:50 LOL 03:24:54 You better hurry 03:25:00 They're discontinued 03:25:38 And the general consencus on this is that they are one of the best Olympus cameras on the market available to the consumer without having to take out a 2nd mortage on the house 03:26:01 bbiaw 03:26:18 bye denshi 03:26:35 cool. 03:27:13 none of the ones I am seeing have that monster zoom. 03:27:18 the e10 is only $1299 03:27:53 :) 03:27:58 Exactly 03:28:15 I had a long talk with the guy from the store 03:28:31 He was telling me they made the 2100UZ in the same facilities they made the E series cameras 03:28:37 neat. 03:28:41 Which makes sense as to why they are such high quality cams 03:28:43 that is 10x optical zoom? 03:28:49 indeed 03:29:11 wow. the C720 is the closest now, 8x 03:29:28 Yeah and no Image Stabilization :) 03:29:29 btw... 03:29:39 Let me e-mail you a 10x zoom shot 03:29:47 ah, interesting, the 2100 is still on the olympus page. 03:29:49 cool 03:30:27 dave@thedesignexperience.org? 03:31:16 yep 03:32:38 sent 03:33:58 that is one ugly case :) 03:34:02 lol 03:34:19 pertty impressive photo. 03:36:17 time to go. 03:36:22 yea 03:36:23 laters 03:36:39 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 03:40:36 talli has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:43:21 talli (~talli@pool-162-83-235-2.ny5030.east.verizon.net) has joined #openacs 03:50:51 ooom 03:52:14 what's up? 03:52:41 you missed it. 03:52:46 * rbm got tickets for SWE2 for the 16th 03:52:51 markd2 had a *major* blow out 03:52:58 he went totally nuts on denshi. 03:53:02 oh 03:53:10 no one knows why, but he just totally started yelling at him 03:53:23 hmm, I gotta check the logs then 03:53:23 calling him insane for liking scheme so much 03:53:28 totally ripped him a new one 03:53:35 like, i never knew it was in markd2 03:53:40 where's this channel logged to again? 03:53:43 but i guess he *really* doesn't like scheme 03:54:34 he said things like, "if scheme is so good, how come only trolls and toads can remember how to iterate in it?" 03:54:52 he was going totally crazy 03:55:03 then all of a sudden, he disappeared 03:55:14 and his wife logged in and apologized for everything he siad 03:55:38 it was a total paje, he's doing it again moment 03:55:55 just ask paje 03:56:44 paje, am i telling the truth? 03:56:44 wish i knew, talli 03:56:48 attaboy 03:58:47 on scheme and lisp lists, there is alot of flaming... 03:58:58 lots of warped personalities... from what i understand 03:59:03 I'm glad I got my Shakira CD in Brazil. I'd be totally mad if it ruined my cd-rom or computer 04:02:29 that stuff can't really ruin comptuers, can it? 04:02:35 does it infect the computer with a virus? 04:02:46 or is the music jsut that bad? 04:05:54 The new Celine Dion CD actually damages iMacs. It foobars the firmware so the machine won't even reboot 04:06:06 (as reported on /. and macuser.com) 04:06:50 I also got Creed's Weathered in Brazil, so I didn't suffer from the corrupt CDs they're selling here in the U.S. 04:09:39 brb 04:10:27 christ 04:10:33 can't someone sue them for that? 04:10:42 willful damage or something? 04:13:49 I don't know. If I had my computer damaged, I sure would get furious 04:40:17 vinod has quit ("changing universes") 04:54:41 talli is now known as uglybarstool 04:55:22 boo! 05:25:30 hey 05:25:45 did you see Cosmoe, the new AtheOS/Linux combo? 05:25:51 the hacker that is developing it has 3 kids 05:25:59 WTF is he doing hacking an OS together? 05:26:14 maybe his kids are really really annoying? 07:44:05 uglybarstool has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:44:07 larspind has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:44:08 uglybarstool (~talli@pool-162-83-235-2.ny5030.east.verizon.net) has joined #openacs 07:44:09 larspind (~none@213.237.67.169.adsl.by.worldonline.dk) has joined #openacs 07:45:36 [#openacs] This channel is logged: http://www.blogspace.com/openacs/chatlogs/ and blogged: http://www.thedesignexperience.org/openacs/ircblog 07:56:30 larspind has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:56:31 uglybarstool has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:56:41 uglybarstool (~talli@pool-162-83-235-2.ny5030.east.verizon.net) has joined #openacs 07:56:41 larspind (~none@213.237.67.169.adsl.by.worldonline.dk) has joined #openacs 08:08:09 [GlobalNotice] Hi all. Just a reminder that user mode +w displays WALLOPS, containing contain non-critical comments and announcements and detailed server admin information. On most clients, "/mode +w" will turn them on. We just experienced an intermittent fault with one of the new main hubs. The other hub picked up the load. Thanks for your patience. 09:34:05 pete_openmsg (~pharper@213.107.207.130) has joined #openacs 10:27:14 rlocke (~nsadmin@202.57.84.130) has joined #openacs 10:27:31 rlocke has quit (Client Quit) 10:29:42 rlocke (~nsadmin@202.57.84.130) has joined #openacs 11:02:18 pete_openmsg has quit ("KVIrc 2.1.1 'Monolith'") 11:21:42 rlocke has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:39:17 daaamn 12:46:26 davb (~chatzilla@rrcs-nys-24-97-22-203.biz.rr.com) has joined #openacs 12:46:42 hi there 12:48:09 hi dave 12:48:18 I just looked up some of the filters 12:48:25 They're like 20-40$ a piece 12:48:37 So, I got 4 filters...that's another 120$ or so 12:48:58 When I got to work I went to harras mother goose over here 12:49:12 The little ones were running around so I wanted to take a picture or two 12:49:34 and she kept hissing at me hehehe 12:49:40 heh 12:50:00 My brother in law got attacked by a goose, it was pretty funny 12:50:13 Psychephylax: that is what the 10x zoom is for :) 12:50:21 Exactly 12:50:35 I just wanted to try the zoom :) 12:50:36 Psychephylax: you don't know any Windows XP to Windows 2000 connectivity issues do youi? 12:50:49 connectivity issues to what? 12:52:53 it takes say 30 seconds to save a one page word file to the 2000 server. 12:53:04 from win98 it is practically instantaneous 12:53:26 So you're saving from Win2K to Win2K? 12:53:34 XP to win2k 12:53:40 hmm 12:53:42 well... 12:53:50 It has probably something to do with security 12:54:01 XP uses NT kernel so it does all that fancy authentication 12:54:08 where as Win98 will just blindly write 12:56:41 yeah, that is what I thought. thanks :) 12:57:30 no problem 12:57:35 Have you seen Roberto? 12:58:26 he was on the logs last night, but I did not chat with him 12:58:36 ah 13:01:44 damn 13:01:57 Just got the camera and I'm already e-mailing Olympus for _modifications_ 13:01:58 lol 13:04:52 you want to mod you camera? 13:06:15 well...sorta 13:06:17 See 13:06:50 The 2040 and all newer cameras made by them have "USB Auto-Connect" which practically allows the camera to "emulate" a removable storage drive 13:07:00 The 2100 doesn't have that feature 13:07:22 so I e-mailed Oly to see if they can "add" it for a fee of sorts 13:08:58 interesting 13:09:08 yeah, the 2500 has that. but only 3x zoom 13:09:20 I want a camera that can take the ibm microdrive 13:09:26 i think its up to 1 gig 13:09:37 yeah 13:09:40 but dave 13:09:44 although 2 512mb cards probably costs the same 13:09:47 Smart Media works fune 13:09:49 fine rather 13:09:53 it just sounds cool :) 13:09:56 heh 13:10:09 seriously though... 13:10:22 If you're considering an Olympus I recommend the 2100UZ 13:10:26 the sony that takes the little cdrs is neat too. 13:10:28 I might buy a 2nd one :) 13:10:40 I think i want a more compact model :) 13:10:45 heh 13:11:05 You don't plan on adding things like lenses and filters? 13:11:26 another place also said they're discontinued 13:12:18 maybe, you can add them to the little ones too. 13:12:20 Alas...I'm also looking for a compact digicam to "always" have with me 13:12:21 well some of them anyway. 13:12:25 yeah you can 13:12:30 you need a CLA-1 adapter 13:12:30 whats wrong with the 2040? 13:12:40 i'ts big :) 13:13:04 get the c40 its 4 megapixel and small. 13:14:21 yeah I was looking into that 13:15:05 It's nice to carry something that you can just slip in your pocket and not have to worry about carrying all the other stuff...smart media cards, batteries, lenses, filters, etc... 13:17:14 yeah. i have a D400 with is small, only 1.3 mp 13:29:25 WHen you upgrade I'll buy it from you :-D 13:30:17 nah, I am giving it to my kids. 13:30:55 argh! too many cool things I don't have time to work on!! 13:37:08 lol 13:37:56 It pays to be resourceful 13:38:02 my cell phone just ran out of juice 13:38:11 * Psychephylax whips out his travel charger 13:40:34 you think Roberto will mind getting my free 900Mhz Duron instead of a 1.2 or 1.3Ghz Duron? 13:43:33 not at all. 13:44:41 ok 13:44:49 I should have memory for him shortly too 13:44:54 I sent out the Money Order 13:45:16 that is really cool. 13:47:46 What is? 13:48:01 helping out rbm 13:48:04 oh 13:48:12 well, hey...talli got him to Boston :) 13:48:27 least I can do is hook up Rbm with a computer 14:16:36 * rbm wakes up 14:17:17 Wow, cool! 14:21:37 our access database is apparently inhabited by gremlins 14:21:56 that is my official technical diasnosis for all the problems we are having 14:24:18 (: 14:25:06 rbm: are you :)s backwards because you are from the southen hemisphere? 14:26:51 :) 14:28:38 hmmm 14:29:59 I guess my geopgrahpy based joke didn't work 14:35:13 ROFL 14:35:17 Nice one dave 14:35:28 Roberto..you awake? 14:36:14 * Psychephylax goes back to the lab in search of racking screws 14:39:21 davb: hehe. I just do it once in a while to be different 14:45:13 ok back to work 15:03:13 Roberto: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3280025~root=forsale~mode=flat 15:03:22 See if you want any motherboards from there... 15:03:38 in terms of features + compatibility with Linux 15:05:26 http://www.acm.org/ubiquity/views/j_rubenfeld_1.html 15:05:27 A: http://www.acm.org/ubiquity/views/j_rubenfeld_1.html from davb 15:05:42 A:|Knowledge Management for Life: Make the World a Better Place 15:05:42 titled item A 15:05:50 A: from Ubiquity 15:05:51 added comment A1 15:06:25 Psychephylax: There's only one motherboard for sale there 15:07:17 Oh, nevermind 15:07:40 pete_openmsg (~pharper@213.107.207.130) has joined #openacs 15:07:55 Psychephylax: I don't know these motherboard. Abit's are usually pretty compatible 15:35:21 uglybarstool is now known as talli 15:46:36 hi talli 15:46:48 hey davb 16:17:46 pete_openmsg has quit ("KVIrc 2.1.1 'Monolith'") 16:50:06 * rbm heads to campus 17:01:59 talli is now known as uglybarstool 17:53:46 Oh yeah 17:53:53 they didn't skimp on the hot peppers this time around 17:54:06 Psychephylax: olympus d520 is 284 at amazon.com 17:54:13 Shaweet 17:54:15 btw 17:57:56 * Psychephylax goes back to work 18:17:01 uglybarstool is now known as talli 18:30:37 barstool has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:33:28 slow day... 19:36:50 indeed 19:39:26 hi denshi. 19:39:41 hey davb 19:39:59 davb, I have determined that it is a good thing to be a designer 19:40:11 as in, graphic designer? 19:40:14 you must show us the way 19:40:56 heh 19:41:06 talk to lars, he is better than me, at least for interface design. 19:41:10 cro (~cro@defiant.nca.asu.edu) has joined #openacs 19:45:11 denshi, btw, how did you learn this? :) 19:45:38 by virtue of having no motivation to redo my personal site 19:45:47 I'd rather code than write templates 19:47:43 that is why I want to build a system to change the look by changing CSS stylesheets in one place. 19:47:59 but we have to write all the package templates to work nicely together. 19:48:06 it's on my list :) 19:51:47 what else is on that list? 19:52:28 hmmmm.... etp 2, tclsoap (fix package require in aolserver), make money, learn CS... 20:27:58 ooom 20:28:57 hi rbm 20:28:59 time to go 20:29:00 davb has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0rc2/20020510]") 20:29:01 hey dav 20:29:06 too late :) 20:35:02 djg (djg@fiesta.cs.tu-berlin.de) has joined #openacs 20:35:16 cvs expert around? 20:35:36 yup 20:35:46 porque? 20:36:16 hmm, i'm trying to figure how to set a umask on the server...client connects wth :ext: 20:36:20 damn doesnt work 20:36:41 and the manual hints at that it doesnt work 20:38:20 set a umask that the server imposes on the client? 20:39:06 nope, new repository's files should be created with a umask that i set in .profile or whereever 20:42:25 talli has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:48:59 I don't think umasks in your $ENV are preserved by cvs. 20:49:06 yup looks like that 20:49:15 http://www.cvshome.org/docs/manual/cvs_2.html#IDX21 kinda says that 20:49:16 B: http://www.cvshome.org/docs/manual/cvs_2.html#IDX21 from djg 20:54:47 talli (~chatzilla@pool-162-83-235-2.ny5030.east.verizon.net) has joined #openacs 21:08:09 * rbm reads about JavaScript in PDF forms 21:15:12 errr 21:16:14 * denshi thinks rbm has discovered hallucinogens 21:16:22 :) 21:16:26 rbm, codersmack. 21:28:56 what's a codersmack? 21:28:59 paje: codersmack? 21:29:00 rbm: wish i knew 21:29:08 paje: botsnack? 21:29:08 thanks rbm :) 21:29:21 paje: botsmack? 21:29:22 * paje slumps into a purple haze 21:30:49 anyone else host on hub.org? 21:35:14 Denshi: one of my co-workers was looking into it but I don't know if his account is setup yet. 21:37:12 the load average on hub.org is obscene 21:37:35 9:37PM up 3 days, 17:25, 1 user, load averages: 93.63, 58.18, 53.10 21:37:40 denshi: we do 21:37:51 do you see better numbers, talli? 21:38:03 Could that be an artifact of their "virtual machine" setup? 21:44:20 They set me up an experimental virtual machine there 21:44:36 but I haven't logged in 21:46:13 we've had some issues with them in terms of responsiveness 21:51:53 talli: what kinds of issues? 21:52:05 like, they were down for a while 21:52:16 i'm not entirely sure since i didn't deal with it 21:53:28 they've been good, but not amazing 21:53:34 i think we've still got an eye on them 21:55:15 Their virtual machine setup sounds really cool, but I've been getting scared by these negative reports 21:55:30 I think it was denshi that said that they might have only one big box 21:55:40 ugh 21:55:44 one big box, huh? 21:55:52 well, open-msg has spoken well of them 21:55:53 maybe they just have one big box for the low bandwidth peons like myself. 21:55:59 I don't know if that's really true though 21:56:51 i think maybe the load average is an artifact of the VM setup. I've seen it spike at over 150, and I don't understand how a system can possibly recover from that. usually a 20 will crash many boxes. 21:57:10 I just kicked nsd over and I started getting reasonable response times again. 21:58:38 what units are those load averages in? 21:58:45 * talli asks another uniniformed question... 22:06:04 oh shit 22:06:09 no one actually knows 22:11:37 load average is the average number of jobs in the run queue 22:11:42 moo? 22:11:42 moo Psychephylax, glad to see you back! 22:12:41 so in theory, a load average of 1.00 is perfect utilization: the processor is finishing tasks as soon as they hop on the queue. 22:13:30 gauche? 22:13:47 a load average of < 1 means the system is lightly loaded; > 1 means there are a bunch of tasks, and that is most typically from the OS swapping like a mofo 22:13:59 U2's latest album is just great 22:14:25 in my experience, on x86 a load average of 20 means that the system will finish swapping when the earth crashes into the sun 22:14:49 heheh 22:15:16 does U2 have a more recent disc than their 2000 disc? 22:16:09 gauche is a multibyte-native scheme interpreter. the creator works at square. 22:16:36 denshi: No 22:17:10 have you listened to "Godspeed You Black Emperor"? 22:17:14 U2 is one of very few bands that I would fork the $50 to go watch their show 22:17:31 denshi: I'm afraid not. Is that the band/singer's name 22:17:34 s/$/?/ 22:18:08 band's name. they're.. um... postapocalyptic trance rock? 22:18:32 never heard of trance rock 22:18:42 I used to really like Iron Maiden and Metallica. 22:19:00 I think I still like them, but I haven't heard to them in a long time 22:19:32 the best description I've heard is: "listening to GYBE is like being trapped in a monsterous machine with a minister, and the machine is bleeding to death" 22:20:23 Hey roberto 22:20:29 hey psyche 22:20:34 We're buying stuff 22:20:41 a little bit for you...a little bit for me... :) 22:20:45 I got you Ram 22:21:01 and a processor...You'll have to settle for a free Duron 900 ;) 22:21:27 Psychephylax: free is always the best 22:21:28 Mostly because I spent quiet a bit of money yesterday on new toys 22:21:34 hey psyche, how do I hop on this train? 22:21:42 You have to be broke 22:22:16 * rbm had to pay $1000 for 0 classes today 22:22:16 I'm working on it. 22:22:21 sounds like you are too. 22:26:01 * talli adopts a new personal slogan 22:26:05 When you know you're a mechanical anus, you've ''got it.'' 22:26:16 * rbm wonders what happened to his vnc 22:26:46 it just hangs after "Authentication succeeded" 22:27:11 http://www.rickross.com/reference/est/estpt8.html 22:27:12 C: http://www.rickross.com/reference/est/estpt8.html from talli 22:27:33 C: ''We're Gonna Tear You Down and Put You Back Together" 22:27:33 added comment C1 22:27:41 talli, you've won the non-sequiter of the year award. is there anything you would like to say to your adoring fans? 22:27:49 C: 1975 article about est 22:27:50 added comment C2 22:28:15 C: Container of Talli's personal slogan - When you know you're a mechanical anus, you've ''got it.'' 22:28:15 added comment C3 22:29:57 anybody knows if that spider-man game being given by Kellog's is any good? 22:32:58 rbm: does it involve mechanical anuses? 22:34:44 i believe the term is anusi 22:35:00 or perhaps anie 22:35:03 aneye 22:36:55 isn't that a small animal from madagascar? 22:38:50 dunno. does madacasgar have mechanical animals? 22:40:26 denshi: no, not really. 22:40:49 BTW, my VNC problem was that the Win98 machine where the server is running misteriously crashed (surprise!) 22:41:04 Win98 is a piece of crap 22:44:52 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 22:49:46 hail hail davb 22:50:16 uh, hi 22:50:16 privet, davb 22:51:07 paje, seppuku 22:51:08 denshi: i'm not following you... 22:51:12 damn. 22:52:02 how is much is a P2-class case+PS worth? 22:52:14 a regular, pizza-box one 22:54:31 you mean an ATX case + power supply? 22:54:47 yeah 22:54:52 old onwe 22:55:52 no idea. 22:56:16 consult with the wisdom of newegg 22:56:40 * rbm invoked the newegg wizzard 22:59:17 s/invoked/invokes/ 23:00:09 cro has quit ("Goodnight all.") 23:11:43 markd2 (~Snak@h166-102-041-185.ip.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 23:13:16 speak of the mechanical anus 23:14:38 talli has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:17:32 talli (~talli@pool-162-83-235-2.ny5030.east.verizon.net) has joined #openacs 23:18:00 I'd like you to know I'm 100% organic 23:18:04 well, except for the glasses 23:18:06 and a filling 23:18:41 well, and that bionic pancreas too 23:19:22 I'll be right back; I need to run markd2's cookies through an IR machine. 23:20:12 markd2: what about the telescopic neck? 23:20:30 and all that four wheel drive jazz? 23:20:43 I don't do jazz 23:20:43 too square 23:21:47 yeah, automatons aren't good at improvisation 23:21:59 * markd2 beeps 23:22:39 Java 23:22:49 JavaScript is really weird 23:24:29 are 23:24:32 rb 23:24:37 whoa 23:25:00 you 23:25:09 holy 23:25:20 paje: again! 23:25:20 * paje spanks talli 23:25:55 thanks 23:32:59 holy moly: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/05/14/174204&mode=thread&tid=181 23:33:01 http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/05/14/174204&mode=thread&tid=181 23:33:02 D: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/05/14/174204&mode=thread&tid=181 from talli 23:33:16 djg: Apple dual-G4 servers in 1U box 23:33:52 yeah. 23:34:03 looks like Oracle is coming to it too 23:34:11 http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2002/may/14quotes.html 23:34:11 E: http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2002/may/14quotes.html from markd2 23:34:24 E:| Random press releases of folks supporting Mac OS X Server on the new Xserve 23:34:24 titled item E 23:37:15 * rbm goes home 23:39:25 bye 23:39:50 nite 23:39:51 I think I need more hate to destroy scheme implementors. 23:40:03 markd2, do you have a hate-cookie I could have? 23:43:06 lemme check 23:43:06 I tend to keep those around. not very tasty 23:43:09 found one 23:43:14 * markd2 tosses 2 hate-cookies to densi 23:43:41 what, the one just split into 2 in mid-air? 23:43:45 markd2: is cocoa an environment for building server and other applications? or is it just for GUIs? 23:43:53 ooh, this one's neat... 23:43:56 pretty much just GUIs 23:44:03 there is "foundation kit" stuff that's faceless 23:44:12 but you might as well just use perl or python 23:44:25 ah, cool 23:44:29 or regular old C? 23:44:51 yeah 23:45:26 cool 23:45:42 tinyscheme actually calls a key pointer variable "pointer". I find that amusing. 23:45:49 and yet, so choice. 23:48:21 bbl 23:56:40 eh?