IRC log of openacs on 2002-05-02

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00:13:17 [Wednesdayphylax]
anyone here?
00:13:31 [Wednesdayphylax]
* Wednesdayphylax pokes davb
00:13:36 [Wednesdayphylax]
hi paje
00:14:55 [talli]
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01:05:28 [talli]
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01:28:39 [rzolf]
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01:28:44 [rzolf]
what on earth.
01:29:20 [rzolf]
paje: seen markd2
01:29:20 [paje]
markd2 was last seen on #openacs 3 hours, 49 minutes and 4 seconds ago, saying: fogging the film [Wed May 1 15:40:57 2002]
01:29:27 [rzolf]
fogging the film.
01:29:33 [rzolf]
hmm.
01:29:41 [rzolf]
paje: help
01:29:51 [rzolf]
paje: help memo
01:30:00 [rzolf]
paje: help ?
01:30:25 [rzolf]
what's the way to leave a memo on the bot?
01:30:28 [rzolf]
paje: memo
01:30:29 [paje]
rzolf: i'm not following you...
01:30:36 [rzolf]
hmm
01:31:08 [rzolf]
what sort ofbot is paje.
01:32:05 [rzolf]
paje: what sort of bot are you.
01:32:05 [paje]
no idea, rzolf
01:32:08 [rzolf]
heh.
01:32:50 [rzolf]
paje: version
01:32:51 [paje]
rzolf: i'm not following you...
01:32:56 [rzolf]
paje: help
01:33:03 [rzolf]
paje: help version
01:33:13 [rzolf]
paje: help main
01:33:34 [rzolf]
paje: help karma
01:33:49 [rzolf]
paje: help reply
01:34:03 [rzolf]
paje: help alternation
01:34:13 [rzolf]
hmm this is very exciting.
01:34:19 [rzolf]
l8r.
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02:42:14 [davb]
hi
02:51:05 [davb]
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04:08:01 [Wednesdayphylax]
Wednesdayphylax is now known as Thursdayphylax
10:48:49 [til|away]
til|away is now known as til
11:34:32 [markd2]
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12:48:34 [markd2]
'morning
12:48:53 [davb]
hi
12:48:53 [paje]
hola, davb
12:51:52 [davb]
oops brb
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13:01:00 [davb]
wtf
13:01:09 [davb]
ods.org still has the wrong ip address.
13:02:31 [markd2]
what is ods.org?
13:06:32 [davb]
cheap DNS service
13:06:56 [davb]
They have a nifty control panel where you enter the info. it has the right address.
13:07:07 [markd2]
this the same group that had your dns info all mucked up a couple of months ago?
13:07:58 [davb]
no, that was when my IP address changed. and I screwed up the entries :)
13:09:03 [davb]
I just asked them what's up.
13:10:49 [davb]
nm. its my ISP again.
13:10:54 [davb]
this is driving me insane.
13:11:45 [markd2]
I gave up on my ISPs dns service
13:11:52 [markd2]
I'm parasiting off of the place I colocate with now
13:12:04 [davb]
I wonder where the bogus entries are coming frm though.
13:12:07 [davb]
it's really weird.
13:12:37 [davb]
and apparently openacs.org also got the bogus entries, again.
13:13:02 [davb]
if I use dig, it goes through my ISPs dns by default.
13:13:23 [davb]
problem is, all my potential customers mostly use the same ISP, so they can't find my site :(
13:13:29 [markd2]
:-(
13:15:42 [davb]
argh!
13:15:49 [davb]
ok. time to cheat.
13:16:08 [davb]
server1.thedesignexperience.org has the OLD address, BUT thedesignexperience.org address is good.
13:17:50 [davb]
so i'll use the other host name to point www and mail to and it will "just work"
13:17:59 [davb]
how annoying.
13:18:53 [davb]
wow. it updated already!
13:21:16 [davb]
thanks for listening to my crazy rants.
13:21:49 [markd2]
it's tough for paje, but he tries
13:26:57 [davb]
heh
13:27:04 [davb]
he should have a special mode
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13:48:43 [Thursdayphylax]
morning
13:49:31 [rbm]
oom
13:49:55 [rbm]
* rbm 's parents will be here in 7 hours
13:50:08 [davb]
cool.
13:50:38 [rbm]
They're probably flying over California now
13:50:58 [rbm]
on the last part of their 11 hour flight
13:54:56 [markd2]
oy
13:58:13 [markd2]
gonna invite them to the channel?
13:58:32 [markd2]
witness the majesty that is goat-worship
13:58:35 [markd2]
talli-no-pants
13:58:43 [markd2]
and folks getting thwacked(tm) with cookies
13:58:51 [markd2]
and vinod doing his naughty pirate dance
13:58:59 [talli]
how did *I* lose my pants?
13:59:06 [talli]
i thought it was vinod-no-pants?
13:59:17 [markd2]
vinod posted the pictures first
13:59:18 [talli]
somehow, all of a sudden, his pants magically reappeared
13:59:24 [talli]
and mine disappeared
13:59:27 [talli]
oh, ok
13:59:41 [talli]
(btw, i'm not wearing any pants right now
13:59:43 [talli]
)
14:03:44 [Thursdayphylax]
lol
14:04:02 [Thursdayphylax]
* Thursdayphylax waves a cookie to attract mark's attention
14:04:56 [markd2]
hello
14:04:57 [paje]
bonjour, markd2
14:04:59 [Thursdayphylax]
* Thursdayphylax gives mark a cookie
14:05:02 [markd2]
yay
14:05:10 [markd2]
one of the cats is out here on the screened-in porch with me
14:05:15 [rbm]
how 'bout paje?
14:05:15 [markd2]
going into total sensory overload
14:05:23 [markd2]
between the traffic, the birds, and the squirrels running around
14:05:23 [rbm]
paje: wanna cookie?
14:05:24 [paje]
rbm: no idea
14:05:34 [Thursdayphylax]
lol
14:05:44 [Thursdayphylax]
who has access to paje's brain?
14:05:58 [rbm]
I have its code in my HD if that's what you mean :)
14:06:02 [Thursdayphylax]
he needs to reply to "feed mark" with "/me tosses mark a cookie"
14:06:08 [markd2]
heh
14:06:21 [markd2]
paje: feed mark is <action> tosses markd2 a cookie
14:06:21 [paje]
OK, markd2.
14:06:23 [markd2]
feed mark
14:06:23 [paje]
* paje tosses markd2 a cookie
14:06:36 [Thursdayphylax]
feed mark
14:06:36 [paje]
* paje tosses markd2 a cookie
14:06:37 [markd2]
paje: again!
14:06:37 [paje]
* paje spanks talli
14:06:40 [rbm]
markd2: how did you make paje reply with "gitfunky" to "gitdown!" ?
14:06:51 [Thursdayphylax]
gitfunky!
14:06:52 [markd2]
literal gitdown!
14:06:52 [paje]
markd2: gitdown! =is= <reply> gitfunky
14:06:57 [markd2]
gitdown!
14:06:57 [paje]
gitfunky
14:07:01 [rbm]
ah
14:07:08 [Thursdayphylax]
gitdown!
14:07:08 [paje]
gitfunky
14:07:11 [Thursdayphylax]
lol
14:07:32 [Thursdayphylax]
paje: sleep is <action> goes to sleep
14:07:32 [paje]
OK, Thursdayphylax.
14:07:34 [Thursdayphylax]
sleep
14:07:39 [Thursdayphylax]
paje sleep
14:07:39 [paje]
* paje goes to sleep
14:07:43 [Thursdayphylax]
haha
14:08:00 [Thursdayphylax]
paje: wakeup is <action> wakes up
14:08:00 [paje]
OK, Thursdayphylax.
14:08:03 [Thursdayphylax]
wakeup
14:08:07 [Thursdayphylax]
paje wakeup
14:08:07 [paje]
* paje wakes up
14:08:16 [Thursdayphylax]
hehehe
14:08:59 [rbm]
I'm going to install those factoid packs. There are a bunch of tem.
14:09:02 [rbm]
s/tem/them/
14:09:17 [markd2]
cool
14:09:38 [Thursdayphylax]
paje sleep
14:09:39 [paje]
* paje goes to sleep
14:12:29 [Thursdayphylax]
Wow
14:12:37 [Thursdayphylax]
I never knew how "big" Caroline's was
14:13:09 [markd2]
what's caroline's?
14:16:37 [rbm]
I was just about to ask
14:16:38 [Thursdayphylax]
* Thursdayphylax thwaps© mark
14:17:01 [rbm]
Is this some pr0n stuff?
14:17:03 [Thursdayphylax]
no
14:17:12 [rbm]
okay then :)
14:18:57 [Thursdayphylax]
i want to go there
14:19:12 [markd2]
I think you'd do good on stage there
14:19:21 [Thursdayphylax]
no, I think you'd be better
14:19:23 [Thursdayphylax]
:p
14:19:39 [markd2]
only if they'll read a computer screen. I'm really dull in person
14:19:47 [Thursdayphylax]
that'll be your act
14:19:48 [Thursdayphylax]
lol
14:21:29 [Thursdayphylax]
anyone know how buying stuff and having it sent somewhere else works?
14:21:51 [davb]
depends on the vendor.
14:21:56 [Thursdayphylax]
newegg.com
14:21:57 [paje]
i heard newegg.com was good. I made a wish list, then I setup an accont, they did not lost davb's wish list.
14:22:13 [davb]
heh
14:22:17 [davb]
paje: botsnack
14:22:17 [paje]
:)
14:22:40 [davb]
Thursdayphylax: i don't think they will let you do it. I think you have to have it send to the CC billing address.
14:22:46 [davb]
to prevent fraud.
14:23:18 [Thursdayphylax]
no, there is a send somewhere else option
14:24:05 [davb]
ah cool.
14:24:14 [davb]
* davb is wrong again :(
14:25:00 [markd2]
heh
14:25:03 [markd2]
depends on the vendor.
14:25:18 [markd2]
some folks do bill-to / ship-to seperately
14:25:21 [markd2]
others just send to bill-to
14:25:34 [Thursdayphylax]
yeah you're right
14:25:55 [Thursdayphylax]
* Thursdayphylax buys so much crap online they all look the same
14:26:28 [Thursdayphylax]
* Thursdayphylax gives Dave a cookie
14:26:48 [rbm]
oh great, stores install wireless cash registers without any encryption. fantastic.
14:27:21 [davb]
ack
14:27:49 [davb]
have you guys seen the coming soon sony phone/pda? http://www.sonyericsson.com/cebit/p800.htm
14:28:10 [rbm]
no
14:28:45 [Thursdayphylax]
They had phone/pda siamese twins for a while now
14:28:49 [Thursdayphylax]
Samsung makes one
14:29:02 [Thursdayphylax]
as well as Visor
14:29:29 [davb]
yeah but this one is cooler. it has a built in camera and more fun stuff.
14:29:46 [davb]
but the sony one is not palm os.
14:30:47 [Thursdayphylax]
heh
14:30:50 [Thursdayphylax]
personally
14:30:55 [Thursdayphylax]
I think it's a waste of money
14:31:13 [Thursdayphylax]
You're then forced to use the wireless provider that supports your gadget
14:31:23 [Thursdayphylax]
eg. Sprint...which sucks
14:31:44 [Thursdayphylax]
* Thursdayphylax throws his phone against the wall and jumps on it some to make sure it's dead
14:33:41 [davb]
Thursdayphylax: that is evil
14:33:55 [davb]
especially when all the phone are the same and can work on any network.
14:35:13 [Thursdayphylax]
they're not all the same
14:35:16 [Thursdayphylax]
that's the problem
14:35:17 [davb]
Thursdayphylax: that will have to change though. growth in the wireless industry will slow now that people are realizing they don't have a choice once they buy a phone.
14:35:27 [davb]
? sure they are.
14:35:42 [Thursdayphylax]
there's GSM and like 3 different digital bands
14:35:44 [Thursdayphylax]
plus analog
14:35:48 [Thursdayphylax]
or some crap like that
14:35:49 [davb]
Right.
14:36:12 [Thursdayphylax]
I have never seen my Sprint phone used anywhere else besides sprint
14:36:15 [davb]
But the digital phones usually support both, so they will work.
14:36:22 [Thursdayphylax]
you're right...some phones do work on other networks
14:36:32 [davb]
That is called roaming :)
14:36:35 [Thursdayphylax]
Nokia phones for the most part are used in Voicestream and ATT
14:36:43 [davb]
its an extra $.50 a minute
14:36:49 [Thursdayphylax]
Dave
14:36:57 [davb]
yes?
14:37:07 [Thursdayphylax]
go find me a Sprint N200 that's used somewhere else besides Sprint
14:37:14 [Thursdayphylax]
ack Sprint N200 = Samsung N200
14:37:24 [Thursdayphylax]
Sprint is evil
14:37:33 [Thursdayphylax]
I can't wait for my contract to expire
14:37:36 [davb]
It "can" work, but I don't think they will let you.
14:37:44 [davb]
the phone companies ALL suck.
14:37:46 [Thursdayphylax]
yeah _they_
14:37:54 [Thursdayphylax]
No, Sprint more so than others
14:38:03 [davb]
yes.
14:38:11 [Thursdayphylax]
they charge YOU for calling their live customer service 3$!
14:38:19 [davb]
aigh.
14:38:23 [Thursdayphylax]
I asked them why they did that
14:38:25 [davb]
that is free on verizon.
14:38:53 [Thursdayphylax]
their answer was..."We have Claire" which is their idiotic answering machine with very poor AI
14:39:28 [davb]
wacky.
14:39:53 [Thursdayphylax]
yes
14:40:00 [Thursdayphylax]
and they screwed up on billing
14:40:06 [Thursdayphylax]
so I had to call them about that
14:40:25 [Thursdayphylax]
I should have just let them figure it out on their own since I set up automatic credit card payments
14:45:08 [Thursdayphylax]
i think I will start saving for a 2nd Digital Camera
14:45:39 [rbm]
I'll buy your first one :)
14:45:56 [Thursdayphylax]
hehe
14:46:03 [Thursdayphylax]
I'm going to keep it :)
14:46:17 [Thursdayphylax]
It's not that bad
14:46:39 [Thursdayphylax]
Olympus 2040Z that i got because of a dent in my roof
14:46:48 [Thursdayphylax]
I want like the E-20N
14:47:10 [rbm]
* rbm fails to see the connection between a dent in the roof and a digital camera
14:47:53 [Thursdayphylax]
car got smashed...insurance paid up once...body shop put dent in roof and argued it wasn't them...insurance company paid up again...I was pissed at bodys shop and bought a camera...
14:48:18 [Thursdayphylax]
now I have a digital camera and a dent in my roof
14:53:54 [rbm]
I was thinking it was a dent in the roof of your house
14:54:38 [Thursdayphylax]
nope, just my car
15:05:01 [davb]
* davb wonders if openacs.org took me off their list yet, or if the DNS is still hosed.
15:05:52 [davb]
ack, Thursdayphylax I think you are more correct. there a only 3 different "standards" but apparently a million different implementations for cell phones.
15:06:20 [markd2]
sounds like web technology
15:06:32 [rbm]
If the implementations would stick to the standards it would be okay.
15:06:49 [rbm]
But of course... they don't
15:08:13 [davb]
and from this article I am reading, GSM is based on the old technology. their is a new UMTS that is supposed to fix everything :)
15:09:15 [Thursdayphylax]
yeah...fix everything
15:09:30 [Thursdayphylax]
just tell me where to plop the next 200$ for the cell phone
15:10:32 [davb]
tri-mode phone.
15:10:50 [Thursdayphylax]
yeah..they have those tri-mode phones
15:10:57 [Thursdayphylax]
they had them for a while
15:11:02 [Thursdayphylax]
and they still aren't compatible :)
15:11:11 [Thursdayphylax]
oh yeah...hold on, I have to upgrade my phone
15:12:53 [davb]
heh
15:17:45 [talli]
is the illustrious markd2 here?
15:18:40 [rbm]
paje: feed markd2
15:18:40 [paje]
rbm: i'm not following you...
15:18:48 [rbm]
eerr
15:19:02 [talli]
paje, seen markd2
15:19:02 [paje]
markd2 was last seen on #openacs 12 minutes and 42 seconds ago, saying: sounds like web technology [Thu May 2 09:07:01 2002]
15:19:07 [rbm]
paje: feed mark
15:19:07 [paje]
* paje tosses markd2 a cookie
15:19:32 [rbm]
paje: feed markd2 is <action> tosses markd2 a cookie
15:19:33 [paje]
OK, rbm.
15:50:28 [Thursdayphylax]
* Thursdayphylax makes coax cable
15:54:33 [vinod]
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15:56:08 [talli]
vinod, you left your pants here last night
15:56:24 [talli]
unfortunately, paje ate them
15:56:58 [Thursdayphylax]
paje feed mark
15:56:59 [paje]
* paje tosses markd2 a cookie
15:57:29 [vinod]
damnit paje!
15:57:30 [davb]
hi vinod
15:57:34 [vinod]
hey davb
16:06:43 [davb]
http://www.themorningnews.org/archives/editorial/mens_fashion_part_3_pants.shtml
16:06:43 [oacs-chump]
A: http://www.themorningnews.org/archives/editorial/mens_fashion_part_3_pants.shtml from davb
16:09:47 [markd2]
* markd2 wakes up
16:10:04 [davb]
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/news/20020427.html
16:10:04 [oacs-chump]
B: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/news/20020427.html from davb
16:10:22 [davb]
B:|Joel on Featuritis
16:10:22 [oacs-chump]
titled item B
16:14:19 [vinod]
davb: i disagree with that pants article
16:14:24 [vinod]
"Men without lower garments are either indigent or flashers, and while either case can win you attention, it's not likely to be favorable."
16:14:33 [vinod]
that's just plain bigotry
16:17:02 [vinod]
hey markd2
16:20:59 [AaronSw]
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16:21:04 [AaronSw]
whoa! BenA sent me an email
16:23:08 [vinod]
you sure it's not a virus - he sent rbm a virus last week :-)
16:23:22 [davb]
not quite :)
16:25:26 [AaronSw]
heh
16:26:29 [markd2]
d'oh
16:26:51 [davb]
someone who has ben in their address book emailed rbm a virus.
16:27:27 [AaronSw]
that makes more sense, since his message is X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.1
16:27:34 [vinod]
oh - that's what it was
16:27:40 [vinod]
* vinod gets foggy about details
16:27:56 [davb]
* davb can hardly see vinod through all this fog
16:28:10 [AaronSw]
whoa, they have openforce.biz
16:28:13 [vinod]
* vinod smiles so davb can see his white teeth
16:28:17 [davb]
http://www.dbexperts.net/postgresql
16:28:18 [oacs-chump]
C: http://www.dbexperts.net/postgresql from davb
16:28:32 [davb]
C:|Postgresql by dbexperts
16:28:32 [oacs-chump]
titled item C
16:28:54 [davb]
C: Includes windows and Mac OS X versions, along with a custom Linux installer
16:28:55 [oacs-chump]
added comment C1
16:29:02 [davb]
that looks pretty cool.
16:29:13 [davb]
much easier to sneak software in when there is a vendor.
16:29:45 [rbm]
I know dbExperts well
16:30:10 [davb]
hey there is more stuff on dotlrn.mit.edu too
16:30:15 [rbm]
It's good to have a vendor, but I don't like it that they are lying about their product
16:30:28 [davb]
they are, I didn't read everything :(
16:30:29 [rbm]
They say their version of PG is compiled natively for Windows, which is just not true
16:30:41 [davb]
that is sneaky
16:31:02 [talli]
rbm how do they do it?
16:31:11 [rbm]
Their "version" is just PG+Cygwin with a windows installer and a little app that hooks to the taskbar to start/stop PG
16:31:13 [talli]
they have some emulation layer, but it can't be cygwin, right?
16:31:17 [talli]
ah, ok
16:31:20 [talli]
well, if it works...
16:31:46 [rbm]
I've wanted to create a windows installer for PG, but I never find the time.
16:31:50 [talli]
PG+cygwin and an installer can be damn well worth the money
16:32:19 [rbm]
talli: Yes. I have nothing againts them selling it, obviously. My problem is that they lie about it.
16:32:33 [talli]
yeah
16:32:59 [Thursdayphylax]
Anyone run windows here? aside from Dave
16:33:10 [rbm]
I do, ocasionally (15 mins per week or so{)
16:33:26 [vinod]
i run win98 inside mac virtualpc
16:33:27 [davb]
tricky: "Native Windows application (as a tray icon )"
16:33:36 [davb]
heh, the tray icon is a native windows program.
16:34:03 [davb]
My wife uses it. She is starting to dislike microsoft, but plays games.
16:34:21 [davb]
she said, I wish there was some way to run these games without using MS windows.
16:35:18 [davb]
it says this too: "Runs as a native windows service"
16:36:19 [davb]
hey there is more stuff on dotlrn.mit.edu too!
16:37:27 [davb]
nice. the forums like goes to openacs.org. and the companies link goes to the company list at openacs.org
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16:42:18 [AaronSw]
larspind!
16:42:23 [davb]
hi lars
16:42:41 [markd2]
greets
16:44:37 [larspind]
Hey Guys
16:44:42 [larspind]
Long time :)
16:44:56 [AaronSw]
no chat
16:45:01 [larspind]
What's cooking?
16:45:16 [talli]
yo lars
16:45:33 [larspind]
Hey talli ... I always end up doing what you tell me to :)
16:45:42 [talli]
did everyone pick up on that?
16:45:49 [talli]
larspind: has it failed you yet?
16:45:58 [talli]
tell the rest what a good idea it is to follow my lead
16:46:06 [AaronSw]
Heh.
16:46:22 [rbm]
* rbm leaves
16:47:10 [vinod]
i have to agree with talli. following him has got me a lot of beer
16:47:32 [markd2]
I always agree with talli
16:47:34 [markd2]
except on the pants issue
16:47:39 [markd2]
I always wear pants
16:48:35 [vinod]
markd2: guess what i did last night?
16:48:50 [vinod]
I ported your cool knowledge-base app to openacs4
16:48:58 [markd2]
sweet!
16:49:01 [markd2]
all 14 lines of code
16:49:07 [vinod]
haha - yup!
16:49:29 [markd2]
for borkware I've added a little feature if ya want it
16:49:40 [markd2]
you can use category names in addition to the info id
16:50:00 [markd2]
like http://borkware.com/quickies/one?topic=Screen Savers
16:50:10 [vinod]
ya i want the cheezy poofs
16:50:14 [vinod]
cool!
16:50:15 [markd2]
hmm.. I think I need to urlencode that
16:50:54 [markd2]
Im gonna have links into the quickies for my next macedition article, and don't want things to break if I have to scram the db and re-load it
16:51:19 [markd2]
also includes code to randomly change the image at the top of the page :-)
16:52:05 [markd2]
herE: http://badgertronics.com/hacks/quickies.tar.gz
16:52:24 [vinod]
excellent - i'm working on moving stuff into the CR and adding 'references' so I can put random medical info that i learn into one place
16:52:45 [markd2]
nice
16:52:55 [markd2]
maybe it'll get to 50 lines of code
16:53:28 [vinod]
haha - if it does, then i'll split it up. i can't think about more than 50 lines at a time
16:54:04 [davb]
vinod: cool.
16:54:19 [talli]
hey markd2, wanna write some cool C code that will change the world?
16:54:28 [talli]
vinod: how about you?
16:54:28 [paje]
you is god's gift to irc
16:54:31 [markd2]
sure, if it's easy
16:54:33 [talli]
you're a C hacker now!
16:54:45 [vinod]
char *world = "changed";
16:54:51 [markd2]
bus error, passangers dumped
16:54:52 [talli]
wanna help write a new server that will save the children of Uganda!?!?
16:55:07 [markd2]
Uganda, no
16:55:17 [markd2]
now talk Swaziland, and we have a deal
16:55:24 [talli]
vinod: i hope that's a global variable...
16:55:38 [talli]
ok, Swaziland, and I'll through in Djibuti too
16:55:42 [vinod]
ba dum bum
16:55:49 [markd2]
[Talli wearPants: YES style: NSGolfPlaid];
16:56:12 [talli]
markd2: http://www.museatech.net/faq/momentum
16:58:02 [markd2]
I need to get my dyslexia checked
16:58:26 [markd2]
I read a sentence there as "some of the latest and most amusing technologies"
16:59:11 [talli]
warning: nitrous oxide is hazardous to your health
16:59:15 [markd2]
pretty spif
16:59:15 [vinod]
haha
17:00:06 [markd2]
but all the pretty colors...
17:01:24 [markd2]
looks like fun. I gotta clear some stuff off my plate in the next week or two
17:01:29 [markd2]
might be my excuse to learn Python
17:02:00 [talli]
killer!
17:03:09 [markd2]
mainly 'cause I want to write an os x calendering app
17:03:49 [talli]
ohhhh... that would be massively killer too!
17:03:57 [talli]
have you guys seen PythonCard?
17:04:05 [talli]
it's a port of HyperCard to Python
17:04:35 [markd2]
cool
17:05:01 [vinod]
i love hypercard
17:05:18 [talli]
http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net/
17:05:18 [oacs-chump]
D: http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net/ from talli
17:05:30 [talli]
D: PythonCard - a port of HyperCard to Python
17:05:31 [oacs-chump]
added comment D1
17:13:28 [Thursdayphylax]
woohoo
17:13:30 [Thursdayphylax]
free lunch
17:13:39 [Thursdayphylax]
* Thursdayphylax saves his 7$ for the rainy day of tomorrow
17:15:20 [Thursdayphylax]
Hey talli, is Momentum going to have Opera support?
17:16:34 [markd2]
Only Verdi
17:17:51 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, feed mark
17:17:52 [paje]
* paje tosses markd2 a cookie
17:20:08 [markd2]
heh
17:20:12 [markd2]
delegating the work
17:23:44 [talli]
Thursdayphylax: what do you mean?
17:25:28 [davb]
does Opera have a calendar?
17:26:11 [Thursdayphylax]
lets find out
17:26:45 [talli]
Thursdayphylax: we plan on being as standards compliant as possible
17:26:58 [Thursdayphylax]
i guess not
17:27:00 [talli]
then providing tools to build for a specific package if need be
17:27:29 [Thursdayphylax]
How do you guys get money for this stuff
17:28:04 [talli]
this is Free software!
17:28:14 [talli]
you mean how are we supporting this?
17:28:23 [talli]
i set up a webpage and created an irc channel
17:28:30 [talli]
how will we make money?
17:28:32 [talli]
services
17:28:42 [Thursdayphylax]
ah
17:28:47 [markd2]
phase 1: webpage and irc channel
17:28:48 [markd2]
pahse 2:
17:28:53 [markd2]
phase 3: profit!
17:28:58 [Thursdayphylax]
lol
17:29:14 [vinod]
i thought phase 1 was "steal underpants"
17:29:24 [talli]
phase 2: build small shack/prison in Western PA for markd2 and paje
17:29:30 [markd2]
phase 3: profit!
17:29:36 [talli]
exact
17:29:39 [talli]
exacto
17:29:40 [davb]
ah, using the docwolf method.
17:29:49 [talli]
davb: exacto,too
17:30:15 [talli]
of course, i just hope that markd2 doesn't distract paje too much, or the work will never get done
17:30:17 [Thursdayphylax]
vinod, that can't be phase 1
17:30:27 [Thursdayphylax]
I think that's phase 4...you lose your underpants due to no funds
17:31:13 [talli]
paje: phase 3 =is= <reply> profit!
17:31:14 [paje]
talli: sorry...
17:31:19 [talli]
paje, up yours
17:31:19 [paje]
talli: excuse me?
17:31:30 [vinod]
paje only listens to markd2
17:31:30 [paje]
vinod: excuse me?
17:31:33 [davb]
anyone know what the requirements are for an openacs 4.5 release?
17:31:40 [talli]
paje, insult paje
17:31:41 [paje]
paje is nothing but a beslubbering heap of festering Sun IPC manuals.
17:31:41 [markd2]
paje, phase 3?
17:31:42 [paje]
no idea, markd2
17:31:49 [markd2]
paje, phase 3 is <reply> profit!
17:31:49 [paje]
OK, markd2.
17:31:53 [markd2]
phase 3?
17:31:53 [paje]
profit!
17:32:14 [markd2]
paje, phase 1 is <reply> talli has no pants! talli has no pants!
17:32:14 [paje]
OK, markd2.
17:32:22 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, markd
17:32:22 [paje]
Thursdayphylax: huh?
17:32:25 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, markd2
17:32:25 [paje]
i heard markd2 was an improper republican because he uses nuclear bombs on offending directories
17:32:27 [vinod]
davb: i think it has to do with donb finding the time to release
17:32:29 [markd2]
phase 1
17:32:32 [markd2]
phase 1?
17:32:32 [paje]
talli has no pants! talli has no pants!
17:32:50 [Thursdayphylax]
* Thursdayphylax wonders what's happening with the logs
17:32:54 [davb]
vinod: ok. just wondering what work the rest of us could do to help.
17:33:07 [markd2]
the FBI is probably putting us all on their 'suspicious individuals' list
17:33:43 [vinod]
davb: that's just my guess. may want to email him to check
17:33:49 [davb]
Thursdayphylax: I fax printouts to the CIA every week.
17:34:28 [vinod]
what does the Culinary Institute of America have to do with any of this?
17:34:41 [markd2]
where do you think *phylax gets all the cookies?
17:34:53 [vinod]
ahhhh
17:35:48 [talli]
paje, KGB is <reply> Kurup Gone Bananas
17:35:48 [paje]
OK, talli.
17:35:53 [talli]
paje, KGB?
17:35:53 [paje]
Kurup Gone Bananas
17:36:01 [vinod]
once they find out that *phylax is giving out free CIA cookies, they'll be on him like the ... uh... CIA
17:36:36 [vinod]
i thought it was Kurup Gone Bork!
17:36:58 [markd2]
bork bork bork
17:36:58 [paje]
bork bork bork
17:37:14 [talli]
paje, KGB is <reply> Kurup Gone Bananas or Kurup Gone Bork. But it's probably Kurup Gone Borkananas
17:37:14 [paje]
...but kgb is <reply> Kurup Gone Bananas...
17:37:46 [markd2]
paje, KGB is also | <reply> Kurup Gone Borkananas
17:37:46 [paje]
okay, markd2.
17:37:49 [markd2]
KGB?
17:37:49 [paje]
Kurup Gone Borkananas
17:37:50 [markd2]
KGB?
17:37:50 [paje]
Kurup Gone Borkananas
17:37:53 [markd2]
KGB?
17:37:53 [paje]
Kurup Gone Borkananas
17:37:55 [markd2]
KGB?
17:37:55 [paje]
Kurup Gone Bananas
17:38:30 [vinod]
Borkarkansas?
17:38:46 [talli]
larspind: you still here?
17:38:54 [davb]
I was just wondering if we were waiting you everything to be entered in on the testing server.
17:38:55 [vinod]
not if he has any sense
17:39:06 [davb]
he is probably doing something productive.
17:39:54 [markd2]
or thinking "good lord these guys are weird. I better stay out of this"
17:43:53 [Thursdayphylax]
I'm going straight to fat burning hell
17:43:59 [markd2]
?
17:44:02 [talli]
yo markd2: how can you not link to balloonhat.com on your page?
17:44:03 [Thursdayphylax]
I had pizza 3 times in a day
17:44:11 [markd2]
'cause I'm lame
17:44:22 [talli]
on your balloon link page, that is
17:47:38 [markd2]
ok, added
17:47:57 [talli]
good man
17:48:31 [talli]
btw, my bro and team are working on a new balloon hat book right now
17:48:36 [talli]
a picture book, not a how-to
17:48:36 [markd2]
sweet
17:48:40 [talli]
it looks really great
17:48:42 [davb]
cool.
17:48:51 [markd2]
like a Travels With Samantha?
17:49:05 [talli]
yeah, but less narcisstic
17:49:12 [talli]
fewer words
17:51:33 [Thursdayphylax]
I kinda want to take a summer...load up with a bunch of cameras and a laptop and just drive around the big U.S. of A
17:51:44 [Thursdayphylax]
How do people do that type of a thing
17:52:00 [markd2]
"savings"
17:52:03 [Thursdayphylax]
Is there like a minimum budget for doing? ;)
17:52:23 [markd2]
the roadtripusa folks had a fire that wiped out their house, so they spent the insurance money on an RV
17:52:46 [Thursdayphylax]
like how much "savings" is needed
17:52:49 [Thursdayphylax]
heh
17:52:52 [Thursdayphylax]
I don't want an RV
17:52:59 [markd2]
depends on a lot of stuff
17:53:02 [Thursdayphylax]
like?
17:53:06 [markd2]
like how good gas milage your car gets
17:53:13 [markd2]
if you want to stay in hotels, hostels, camp
17:53:14 [Thursdayphylax]
30mpg
17:53:16 [Thursdayphylax]
highway
17:53:17 [markd2]
or try to bum people's house
17:53:23 [larspind]
Talli, I'm still around ...
17:53:39 [markd2]
then figure out costs for that various stuff, including film, internet conection, food, etc
17:53:47 [markd2]
multiply by the # of days you want to wander
17:53:55 [markd2]
result is how much you need to have availble
17:53:59 [talli]
larspind: i wanted to ask you some questions about your plans for bugtracker
17:54:03 [markd2]
you could probably also get odd jobs and make money on the way
17:54:12 [larspind]
Ok, shoot
17:54:34 [talli]
specifically, how do you think to implement complex searches, like bugs that are priority 1 and 2 in components 3 and 4
17:55:17 [larspind]
It's already implemented, only there's no UI for it yet
17:55:54 [larspind]
Like when you click in the list on the left, you can filter by, say, priority = 1, or component=2
17:56:11 [larspind]
You can just manually combine those in the URL, and it'll work the way you expect
17:56:23 [larspind]
But I haven't added any UI to let you do that, or to let you save your filters, etc.
17:57:22 [Thursdayphylax]
I basically want to do a figure 8 from NY to FL to WA to Cali and back to NY
17:57:25 [talli]
ah, ok
17:57:36 [talli]
how do you think you'll do the UI?
17:57:49 [talli]
as a separate page? with check boxes? drop down menus?
17:57:58 [markd2]
flash!
17:58:01 [markd2]
image maps!
17:58:13 [davb]
markd2: is this the one you have seen before? http://www.echo23.com/domokun/
17:58:18 [larspind]
Talli, yeah, probably a separate page
17:58:28 [Thursdayphylax]
I can make a little bend and stop off at Utah to say hi to Roberto
17:58:41 [markd2]
davb: no
17:59:19 [markd2]
come by western PA, and I'll take some cookies from ya :-)
17:59:19 [davb]
ok, well, there you go :)
17:59:25 [Thursdayphylax]
hehe
17:59:28 [talli]
paje, it's happening again is <action> strokes markd2's head and whispers gently to calm his manic episode
17:59:28 [paje]
OK, talli.
17:59:33 [davb]
do the openacs.org natioal tour!
17:59:33 [talli]
paje, it's happening again
17:59:33 [paje]
* paje strokes markd2's head and whispers gently to calm his manic episode
17:59:52 [markd2]
heh
18:00:57 [Thursdayphylax]
hahaha
18:01:02 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, it's happening again
18:01:04 [paje]
* paje strokes markd2's head and whispers gently to calm his manic episode
18:01:07 [markd2]
you're a manic repressive!
18:02:29 [Thursdayphylax]
Well, I could stop off in PA since it's on the way to Florida
18:02:41 [Thursdayphylax]
hehe..first stop...talli...second stop...mark
18:02:55 [Thursdayphylax]
Anyone in Florida?
18:02:55 [markd2]
or keep piling folks in the car
18:03:00 [markd2]
ROAD TRIP!
18:03:04 [Thursdayphylax]
:)
18:03:11 [talli]
i resent being the second stop
18:03:13 [Thursdayphylax]
I'd need a pretty big car and lots of sleeping bags
18:03:20 [Thursdayphylax]
second stop?
18:03:23 [Thursdayphylax]
I said first
18:03:28 [talli]
oh, i'm the first stop
18:03:30 [talli]
never mind
18:03:38 [Thursdayphylax]
hehe is not really a stop
18:04:01 [markd2]
more like a drive-through
18:04:03 [larspind]
Talli, what's your plan for bug-tracker, specifically, should we put it into the openacs repository?
18:04:32 [talli]
larspind: yes!
18:04:46 [talli]
if you're done with it
18:05:06 [davb]
can we use bugtracker as a base for the new sdm?
18:05:14 [larspind]
Done enough to share it, right?
18:05:18 [talli]
do you have any idea what it would take to migrate the SDM stuff to the bugtracker?
18:05:22 [larspind]
davb, bug-tracker is meant to *be* the new sdm
18:05:25 [davb]
ok.
18:05:27 [davb]
cool :)
18:05:29 [larspind]
Migrate the SDM data?
18:06:25 [talli]
all the bugs that are currently in SDM
18:06:37 [talli]
is it possible to move them to the SDM or is that a massive pain?
18:06:51 [larspind]
I think that would be a massive pain, but we could try and look at it.
18:07:06 [markd2]
the (B)SDM
18:07:16 [larspind]
Bug-tracker is not quite ready for that, though ... Still missing the patches functionality, linking bugs, and other stuff like that.
18:07:22 [talli]
ok
18:07:33 [talli]
so we can release it and tell people what needs to be done
18:07:37 [talli]
maybe someone will pick that up
18:07:50 [talli]
is it hard to interate the bugtracker with CVS?
18:08:09 [talli]
s/interate/integrate
18:08:48 [markd2]
davb: that rules!
18:09:13 [davb]
I got it from #swhack
18:09:26 [larspind]
Re release: yeah, there's already a spec which outlines the roadmap
18:09:37 [larspind]
Re cvs integration: I have no idea. What kind of integration are you thinking?
18:09:50 [talli]
dunno
18:10:01 [talli]
isn't the current SDM some kind of front-end for CVS?
18:10:24 [davb]
well, it can browse cvs through the web.
18:11:08 [talli]
dunno if we need to reimplement that, do we?
18:12:26 [davb]
there is some sort of version-control thing in openacs 4.
18:12:57 [talli]
isn't that the CR?
18:14:07 [davb]
http://openacs.org/sdm/package-repository.tcl?current_entry=DIRECTORY%20%2fopenacs%2d4%2fpackages%20version%2dcontrol&package_id=9
18:14:08 [oacs-chump]
E: http://openacs.org/sdm/package-repository.tcl?current_entry=DIRECTORY%20%2fopenacs%2d4%2fpackages%20version%2dcontrol&package_id=9 from davb
18:14:18 [davb]
There is a version-control package.
18:14:52 [davb]
well cvs browsing is broken right now anyway, maybe thats a version 2.0 feature.
18:16:24 [vinod]
version-control is suppost to be a module which abstracts out CVS-type stuff so that you can plug in different version control systems
18:16:33 [vinod]
i haven't looked at it in much detail though
18:17:41 [davb]
so you might use it to provide cvs browsing frm another package or something like that.
18:17:58 [vinod]
right
18:18:26 [davb]
ok, this is all very interesting, but I have to go now :)
18:18:28 [davb]
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18:18:54 [vinod]
plus, if you wanted to switch to perforce (eg), you could map the calls to that system
18:19:58 [larspind]
I'm off, too.
18:20:09 [larspind]
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18:44:20 [talli]
vinod: is there a UI for the version control thing?
18:45:55 [vinod]
talli: no - it's just a tcl api. for other packages to call
18:46:11 [talli]
ah, cool
18:46:18 [vinod]
right now, it looks like everything is hard coded to CVS
18:46:30 [talli]
ah, ok
18:46:39 [talli]
that's the version control module?
18:46:44 [vinod]
yeah
18:46:45 [talli]
that is hardcoded, i mean
18:46:46 [talli]
ok
18:48:12 [vinod]
here's a couple quotes from the docs: ">The VC application provides a simple interface to CVS that can be
18:48:12 [vinod]
used by any application to add version control capabilities to that
18:48:12 [vinod]
application. It also provides procedures to obtain version control
18:48:13 [vinod]
information for any file associated with the project, e.g., to display
18:48:13 [vinod]
additional information in the page footer or for integration with bug
18:48:15 [vinod]
tracking systems."
18:48:40 [markd2]
damn. The VC have gotten into the code too
18:49:25 [vinod]
they let anyone code at aD ;-)
18:50:07 [vinod]
"As written these procs are tied specifically to CVS, but they could
18:50:07 [vinod]
be extended to work with RCS or SCCS repositories, or any other
18:50:08 [vinod]
revision control system we might adopt in the future."
18:51:07 [talli]
that's great
18:51:12 [talli]
we're using CVS anyway
18:51:26 [talli]
when patches are implemented in bugtracker, we should integrate it with CVS
19:00:20 [vinod]
ok markd2 - i've added your changes, pg/oracle support, context bars - http://kurup.com/acs/knowledge-base-0.2d.apm
19:00:37 [markd2]
suh-wheet
19:00:43 [vinod]
it's a whole 7K now (but i took out all your nice random-eye code)
19:01:00 [markd2]
heh
19:01:12 [markd2]
that's a proprietary borkware(tm) feature
19:01:25 [vinod]
that's what i thought
19:01:32 [vinod]
didn't want the lawyers on my back
19:02:49 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, feed mark bark
19:02:49 [paje]
Thursdayphylax: sorry...
19:02:54 [Thursdayphylax]
damn it
19:02:57 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, feed mark
19:02:58 [paje]
* paje tosses markd2 a cookie
19:03:06 [vinod]
* vinod intercepts
19:03:14 [vinod]
mmmm - cookies
19:03:36 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, insult vinod
19:03:37 [paje]
vinod is nothing but a loggerheaded accumulation of pointy-nosed pond scum.
19:04:00 [Thursdayphylax]
another!
19:04:04 [Thursdayphylax]
hmmm
19:04:07 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, another!
19:04:08 [paje]
Thursdayphylax: huh?
19:04:15 [vinod]
you tell em paje
19:04:27 [markd2]
heh
19:05:29 [Thursdayphylax]
paje eat vinod <action> eats vinod
19:05:29 [paje]
Thursdayphylax: sorry...
19:05:40 [vinod]
muahahaha
19:05:59 [vinod]
paje: botsnack
19:05:59 [paje]
thanks vinod :)
19:06:43 [vinod]
me gotta go make phone call - bbl
19:06:50 [vinod]
vinod has left #openacs
19:08:44 [markd2]
paje eat vinod is <action> eats vinod
19:08:44 [paje]
OK, markd2.
19:08:46 [markd2]
eat vinod
19:08:46 [paje]
* paje eats vinod
19:09:08 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, botsnack
19:09:09 [paje]
:)
19:10:42 [Thursdayphylax]
gitdown!
19:10:42 [paje]
gitfunky
19:11:07 [Thursdayphylax]
page, gitdown is <action> gitsfunky!
19:12:55 [markd2]
nope, it's getfunky
19:12:58 [markd2]
to parallel the gitdown
19:13:10 [markd2]
which is rzolf's domain
19:13:21 [markd2]
er, gitfunky
19:13:48 [Thursdayphylax]
can you specify parameters to it?
19:14:08 [markd2]
parameters?
19:14:08 [Thursdayphylax]
like action $var is <action> to $var
19:14:33 [Thursdayphylax]
so I can have a generic cookie thing instead of defining one for everyone
19:14:37 [markd2]
there's some way to do it
19:14:41 [Thursdayphylax]
:)
19:14:52 [Thursdayphylax]
well, I have to go show something to my boss
19:21:34 [davb]
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19:24:10 [davb]
hmmm. evolution doesn't have a place to put the password to check your mail.
19:25:15 [talli]
i think it should
19:25:18 [talli]
forget how, though
19:25:28 [talli]
the prob i have with evolution is that it's a knock off of Outlook
19:25:33 [davb]
I couldn't find it. mutt wins :)
19:25:37 [talli]
i don't like outlook *just* becuase it's MS
19:25:41 [davb]
yeah, boring.
19:25:44 [talli]
i'm not a massive fan of the UI either
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20:25:04 [davb]
darn, my new game is not easy to run under wine.
20:25:48 [Thursdayphylax]
heh
20:25:50 [Thursdayphylax]
what game
20:31:18 [Thursdayphylax]
Anyone knwo if the Aureal Vortex 2 chip is compatible with Linux?
20:31:28 [Thursdayphylax]
I think I found a soundcard for Roberto
20:40:28 [davb]
Thursdayphylax: Morrowind
20:41:30 [Thursdayphylax]
?
20:50:16 [Thursdayphylax]
bot, eat davb
20:50:24 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, eat davb
20:50:24 [paje]
Thursdayphylax: huh?
20:50:43 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, eat $1 is <action> eats $1
20:50:44 [paje]
OK, Thursdayphylax.
20:50:48 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, eat davb
20:50:48 [paje]
Thursdayphylax: huh?
20:52:11 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, forget eat $1
20:52:11 [paje]
Thursdayphylax: I forgot eat $1
20:52:17 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, eat $1
20:52:19 [paje]
Thursdayphylax: sorry...
20:52:34 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, eat <var> is <action> eats <var>
20:52:35 [paje]
OK, Thursdayphylax.
20:52:38 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, eat davb
20:52:39 [paje]
Thursdayphylax: huh?
20:52:45 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, eat <var>
20:52:45 [paje]
* paje eats <var>
21:01:31 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, forget eat <var>
21:01:32 [paje]
Thursdayphylax: I forgot eat <var>
21:12:09 [Thursdayphylax]
paje what is Oracle?
21:12:20 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, what is Oracle?
21:12:26 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, Oracle?
21:12:57 [paje]
thursdayphylax: wish i knew
21:12:57 [paje]
no idea, thursdayphylax
21:12:57 [paje]
thursdayphylax: bugger all, i dunno
21:12:57 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, Oracle is a large DBMS | Where Mark stores his cookies!
21:12:58 [paje]
thursdayphylax: i haven't a clue
21:13:34 [Thursdayphylax]
paje oracle is Where Mark stores his cookies!
21:13:34 [paje]
thursdayphylax: i don't know
21:13:53 [davb]
paje: Oracle is where markd2 stores his cookies
21:13:53 [paje]
wish i knew, davb
21:13:58 [davb]
hmmm.
21:15:05 [davb]
crap, you need at least a riva tnt2 to play this game.
21:15:12 [Thursdayphylax]
What game?
21:15:24 [davb]
Morrowind
21:15:29 [Thursdayphylax]
lol
21:15:33 [Thursdayphylax]
hold on
21:16:02 [davb]
www.morrowind.com
21:16:45 [Thursdayphylax]
Freeware?
21:16:54 [davb]
nope. $50ware
21:16:59 [Thursdayphylax]
D'oh
21:17:09 [Thursdayphylax]
looks like you need a new video card
21:17:21 [davb]
yeah. my wife has one and she will mostly play it anyway.
21:17:22 [Thursdayphylax]
Or you'll be going to your dad's house to play it
21:17:28 [davb]
heh
21:18:25 [Thursdayphylax]
:)
21:18:58 [Thursdayphylax]
technical documentation is very very annoying
21:19:02 [Thursdayphylax]
It was fun in the beginning
21:19:09 [Thursdayphylax]
now it's just tedious busy work
21:19:45 [Thursdayphylax]
looks like it uses the Ghost Recon engine whichever one that is
21:20:09 [Thursdayphylax]
probably Unreal
21:21:59 [davb]
I think they wrote their own.
21:24:40 [Thursdayphylax]
cool
21:24:48 [Thursdayphylax]
looks very similar to Ghost Recon
21:27:02 [davb]
i could be making that part up :)
21:36:09 [Thursdayphylax]
lol
21:42:11 [Thursdayphylax]
i can probably scrounge up some extra money to get Roberto a 1500XP
21:42:45 [Thursdayphylax]
but don't tell him that :)
21:42:59 [davb]
yeah, don't worry, I don't think he reads the log :)
21:43:55 [Thursdayphylax]
that's good
21:48:03 [Thursdayphylax]
Wow
21:48:09 [Thursdayphylax]
SmartCards have really gone down in price
21:58:30 [Thursdayphylax]
I guess Olympus stopped running their contests
21:59:53 [Thursdayphylax]
Dave...you alive?
22:00:31 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, revive davb
22:00:32 [paje]
* paje gives davb CPR
22:04:54 [Thursdayphylax]
* Thursdayphylax goes home
22:43:07 [davb]
heh
22:43:13 [davb]
paje: botsnack
22:43:13 [paje]
:)
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22:49:47 [rzolf]
docwolf: did you hear anything back from allen? at 5 he emailed saying that he was going back over to the NAP
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23:00:43 [Thursdayphylax]
dave
23:00:56 [Thursdayphylax]
I think I figured out Mark's obsession with Domo-kuns
23:01:07 [Thursdayphylax]
It's those little asian girl cheerleaders in little skirts ;)
23:04:04 [davb]
could be.
23:08:49 [Thursdayphylax]
hehe
23:08:56 [Thursdayphylax]
Domokun! -->https://www.wizzywig.com/domokun.html
23:08:58 [Thursdayphylax]
In stock too :)
23:09:12 [davb]
oh my.
23:09:44 [Thursdayphylax]
hehe
23:10:50 [davb]
Thursdayphylax: do you know anything about linux cd recording?
23:10:57 [Thursdayphylax]
kinda
23:11:04 [Thursdayphylax]
need scsi emulation and stuff
23:11:19 [davb]
that I know. it works.
23:11:40 [Thursdayphylax]
oh
23:11:44 [davb]
:)
23:11:47 [Thursdayphylax]
probably easier to do it in windows
23:11:52 [davb]
maybe.
23:11:53 [Thursdayphylax]
is it a windows game?
23:11:57 [davb]
yes.
23:12:02 [Thursdayphylax]
ok
23:12:09 [Thursdayphylax]
* Thursdayphylax tries to recall the name of the game
23:13:05 [Thursdayphylax]
oh
23:13:11 [Thursdayphylax]
then give it a week or so
23:13:15 [davb]
yeah.
23:14:04 [davb]
cool!
23:14:36 [Thursdayphylax]
hehe
23:14:39 [Thursdayphylax]
looks like a mean domo!
23:15:44 [davb]
you are a .NET developer?
23:15:50 [Thursdayphylax]
no
23:15:51 [Thursdayphylax]
lol
23:15:55 [Thursdayphylax]
maybe someday
23:15:58 [davb]
ok.
23:15:59 [Thursdayphylax]
I don't know anything
23:16:08 [Thursdayphylax]
I need a mentor who will help me learn something really really well
23:16:52 [Thursdayphylax]
be it java, oracle, unix administration or c++
23:17:15 [davb]
hey! that was my idea :)
23:17:50 [Thursdayphylax]
what was your idea?
23:18:11 [davb]
hooking up volunter hackers to mentor aspiring nerds.
23:18:24 [Thursdayphylax]
you know of any volunteer hackers?
23:18:44 [davb]
no. i just had the idea. I didn''t implement it yet.
23:18:48 [Thursdayphylax]
ah
23:18:53 [Thursdayphylax]
well, what are you waiting for!
23:19:00 [davb]
its on my list.
23:19:02 [Thursdayphylax]
<--aspiring nerd ready to learn
23:19:13 [Thursdayphylax]
paje, revive davb
23:19:13 [paje]
* paje gives davb CPR
23:19:15 [davb]
I can teach you openacs 4.5 and tcl in aolserver.
23:19:23 [Thursdayphylax]
can you teach me oracle? :)
23:19:39 [davb]
no, but I have a really thick oracle book you can have for free.
23:19:55 [Thursdayphylax]
Is it Oracle 8i: The Complete Reference?
23:20:01 [davb]
nah DBA handbook.
23:20:06 [Thursdayphylax]
oh
23:20:11 [Thursdayphylax]
how much did you pay for it
23:20:14 [davb]
$45 i think.
23:20:26 [davb]
that was back before I discovered openacs.
23:20:39 [Thursdayphylax]
you want 20$ for it?
23:20:43 [davb]
now I know enough oracle to get by. if someone wants to use it, they can hire a dba.
23:20:44 [davb]
sure.
23:20:49 [davb]
its 8.1.6 I think.
23:21:07 [Thursdayphylax]
ok
23:21:08 [davb]
or 8i rather. so its not the latest anymore.
23:21:16 [Thursdayphylax]
I doubt they change many things
23:21:26 [Thursdayphylax]
then all those DBA's would need to go to school again :)
23:21:39 [Thursdayphylax]
I'll buy it from you after I get Roberto a new computer
23:22:04 [davb]
np. its not going anyway, even if there is a tornado.
23:23:06 [Thursdayphylax]
hehehee
23:23:16 [davb]
oh, there isn't a 9i version anyway.
23:23:32 [davb]
if you want to be a dba, it has alot of good stuff in it.
23:24:03 [Thursdayphylax]
As you like to say..It's on my list of things to do :)
23:24:45 [davb]
ah. ok well you beter work out if you need to lift oracle books.
23:28:20 [Thursdayphylax]
I really need to format this computer
23:28:25 [Thursdayphylax]
brb...