IRC log of openacs on 2002-05-01

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00:29:03 [Tuesdayphylax-aw]
damn I'm tired
00:37:40 [rbm]
* rbm sends a virtual massager to Tuesdayphylax-aw
00:37:48 [Tuesdayphylax-aw]
why
00:38:59 [Tuesdayphylax-aw]
yay
00:39:03 [Tuesdayphylax-aw]
newegg paid up
00:39:07 [rbm]
I like a massage when I'm tired, that's all :)
00:39:09 [Tuesdayphylax-aw]
and i paid off my bills
00:39:17 [rbm]
* rbm taps Tuesdayphylax-aw on the back
00:39:27 [Tuesdayphylax-aw]
after i survive until next wednesday :)
00:39:41 [Tuesdayphylax-aw]
Roberto will get a new compooter
00:40:50 [rbm]
* rbm is trying to compoote turing machines now
00:40:54 [rbm]
yay!
00:42:33 [Tuesdayphylax-aw]
oh man
00:42:40 [Tuesdayphylax-aw]
you're trying to compoot a turing machine
00:42:43 [Tuesdayphylax-aw]
damn that's hard :-D
00:42:46 [rbm]
heheh
00:44:23 [Tuesdayphylax-aw]
* Tuesdayphylax-aw calculates the rest of his debts
00:44:49 [Tuesdayphylax-aw]
Tuesdayphylax-aw is now known as Timesheetophylax
00:47:31 [rbm]
* rbm goes back to studying
00:50:19 [talli]
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01:25:23 [davb]
* davb goes to reinstall win98
01:25:26 [davb]
wish me luck
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02:10:46 [davb]
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02:10:53 [davb]
hi from mozilla 1.0rc1
02:33:04 [lethedrinker]
* lethedrinker notes that mozilla is the emacs of browsers
02:33:43 [davb]
it does everything? and then some?
02:34:09 [davb]
i figured it was the easiest way to get IRC on my wife's computer.
02:35:02 [davb]
lethedrinker: if you figure out the "get all the children" query can you post a sample here?
02:36:09 [jim]
so IE isn't really the windows OS? hmmm...
02:36:26 [davb]
shhhhhhhhhhh
02:36:39 [jim]
oh, sorry :)
02:36:43 [davb]
mozilla 1.0rc1 it working very nice. its fast.
02:37:25 [lethedrinker]
davb: sure
02:37:33 [davb]
thanks.
02:37:45 [lethedrinker]
i don't have a schema yet... it will be a few days.
02:37:48 [vinod]
davb: i think this works...
02:37:50 [vinod]
select o1.object_type, tree_level(o1.tree_sortkey) as path_depth
02:37:50 [vinod]
from acs_object_types o1, acs_object_types o2
02:37:50 [vinod]
where o2.object_type = 'relationship'
02:37:57 [vinod]
and o1.tree_sortkey between o2.tree_sortkey and tree_right(o2.tree_sortkey)
02:38:01 [davb]
ok.
02:38:19 [vinod]
i'm not sure if there's a simpler way to do it or not
02:38:34 [davb]
I will test it out. I had something like that, but it returned duplicates. i must have screwed it up.
02:39:45 [davb]
vinod. will that get all the children of one node though?
02:40:01 [davb]
or am I asking the wrong question?
02:40:10 [vinod]
i think it will get all the children of 'relationship' (in this example)
02:40:19 [davb]
ah.
02:40:21 [davb]
ok.
02:40:36 [vinod]
oh, plus it gets 'relationship', which isn't technically a child
02:40:37 [davb]
so iI could say where o2.object_id=my_object_id.
02:40:44 [vinod]
right
02:40:50 [davb]
cool.
02:41:09 [davb]
i think this keyboard shrank.
02:41:10 [lethedrinker]
very cool.
02:42:06 [davb]
I think I am going to buy a couple spare of the "real" ibm keyboards at the next computer fair, and chop off the numeric keypad.
02:42:57 [vinod]
davb: step away from the keyboard.... slowly....
02:43:02 [davb]
heh.,
02:43:55 [Timesheetophylax]
put the keyboard DOWN!
02:44:02 [davb]
hmmm. anyone on the aolserver list?
02:44:02 [jim]
freeze! drop the milling machine!
02:44:07 [davb]
darn.
02:44:16 [vinod]
davb: i am. why?
02:44:21 [davb]
I found this place that sells books on building machine shop tools out of spare parts.
02:44:42 [jim]
* jim continues preparing...
02:44:47 [davb]
my dns was temporarily hosed and some email isn't getting around. I wondered if anyone responded to my post about namespace etc...
02:45:19 [vinod]
nope, i haven't seen any responses yet
02:45:35 [davb]
darn.
02:45:57 [davb]
argh. reinstalling windows invoked the same error i had before.
02:46:12 [davb]
i need a spare harddrive to install win2k on.
02:50:07 [davb]
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02:50:08 [Timesheetophylax]
hmm
02:50:15 [Timesheetophylax]
you have 35$?
02:50:32 [davb]
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02:50:38 [Timesheetophylax]
wb dave
02:50:41 [davb]
oops
02:50:43 [Timesheetophylax]
you have 35$ for a hard drive?
02:50:45 [davb]
thanks
02:50:54 [davb]
Maybe after payday.
02:51:21 [davb]
but I am very interested.
02:52:24 [Timesheetophylax]
they usually sell lots of misc parts there cheap
02:52:31 [Timesheetophylax]
if you need anything, I'll doit
02:54:28 [davb]
alot of DSL modems.
02:54:37 [Timesheetophylax]
well, it's a broadband site ;)
02:54:44 [davb]
I have a DSL router and a DSL modem that i am not using.
02:54:47 [Timesheetophylax]
* Timesheetophylax wonders if he should get syslogd or nixadmin on his plates
02:54:51 [Timesheetophylax]
sell it
02:55:02 [davb]
I didn't think anyone would buy it. I think I will.
02:55:32 [Timesheetophylax]
Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 45 20GB 7200RPM Model# 52049H3 Warranty expires MAR04 -- $55
02:55:47 [talli]
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02:56:09 [talli]
anyone home this eve?
02:56:12 [davb]
not bad. but I can get a 40gb for $76 :)
02:56:25 [talli]
i guess so...
02:56:31 [davb]
hi talli
02:56:31 [Timesheetophylax]
you can probably hit him up for a lower price
02:56:36 [davb]
true.
02:56:40 [Timesheetophylax]
a lot of people will settle 5-15$ lower
02:57:01 [vinod]
hey talli
02:57:17 [talli]
hey vinod
02:57:30 [talli]
what's doin' with yer pants this eve?
02:57:42 [vinod]
they're around here somewhere
02:58:02 [Timesheetophylax]
* Timesheetophylax heads to bed
02:58:03 [davb]
where is the win98 registry files?
02:58:14 [Timesheetophylax]
yay, tomorrow is time sheet day!
02:58:17 [Timesheetophylax]
:)
02:58:46 [davb]
nm, they are hidden, duh.
02:58:54 [vinod]
hey - like my pants!
02:58:57 [davb]
too long in the real world. hard to think in fantasy land.
03:33:44 [rbm]
* rbm peeks into the channel
03:35:23 [talli]
hey, we're having a nice convo in #momentum
03:36:25 [rbm]
oh, there's a #momentum already?
03:36:32 [talli]
from the first day!
03:36:46 [rbm]
cool. I'll stop by when finals are over
03:37:02 [talli]
congrats on graduation, rbm ?
03:37:04 [talli]
whoops
03:37:07 [talli]
no question meant
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03:49:47 [rbm]
talli: Thanks.
04:06:56 [talli]
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04:18:03 [davb]
bye
04:18:04 [davb]
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08:24:17 [jim]
anyone awake? :) I need some help checking something out...
11:37:33 [til]
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11:50:59 [markd2]
http://knighthoodofbuh.org/nopants/
11:51:00 [oacs-chump]
A: http://knighthoodofbuh.org/nopants/ from markd2
11:51:07 [markd2]
A:|Talli has a national holiday now?
11:51:07 [oacs-chump]
titled item A
12:31:58 [Timesheetophylax]
lolk
12:32:07 [Timesheetophylax]
intriguing but i think that will get me fired
12:50:31 [til]
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13:13:24 [davb]
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13:13:37 [davb]
hello
13:17:17 [davb]
darn.
13:17:30 [davb]
I fixed my windows 98, and now linux is screwed up.
13:18:39 [markd2]
:-(
13:19:30 [davb]
I had to switch my win98 drive to be the master drive, which screwed up lilo, because it pointed to /dev/hda. so I tried to switch lilo to /dev/hdb, and that didn't work.
13:19:35 [davb]
I'll fix it later.
13:19:52 [markd2]
the folks in my LUG like grub over lilo
13:20:11 [davb]
me too. but debian installed lilo, and I am too lazy to learn how to switch.
13:20:15 [markd2]
heh
13:20:24 [davb]
but I think I will now.
13:24:30 [rbm]
grub is easy
13:29:38 [davb]
* davb gets surprising informative help from #linux!
13:29:41 [markd2]
wow
13:30:23 [markd2]
* markd2 makes sure the earth hasn't stopped rotating
13:30:55 [davb]
heh
13:42:25 [Timesheetophylax]
:)
13:42:31 [davb]
hi Timesheetophylax
13:42:35 [Timesheetophylax]
hey Dave
13:42:46 [Timesheetophylax]
* Timesheetophylax wonders how many people know his real name
13:42:57 [davb]
I do. you emailed me :)
13:43:09 [markd2]
Propho
13:43:11 [Timesheetophylax]
?
13:43:11 [markd2]
Prophophylax
13:43:13 [Timesheetophylax]
ROFL
13:43:14 [Timesheetophylax]
no
13:43:33 [markd2]
I've got an email from ya somewhere in my archives too
13:43:37 [markd2]
So We Can Find Out
13:44:20 [Timesheetophylax]
hehe
13:44:33 [Timesheetophylax]
but you don't know it off the top of your head :(
13:44:39 [Timesheetophylax]
* Timesheetophylax goes to sit in the corner and cry
13:44:40 [Timesheetophylax]
brb
13:45:00 [markd2]
heh
13:45:07 [markd2]
poor Nikolay
13:45:34 [markd2]
Ñîkòlå¥
13:58:19 [Timesheetophylax]
:)
13:58:20 [Timesheetophylax]
Nick
13:58:22 [Timesheetophylax]
nick is fine
13:58:26 [markd2]
/nick
13:58:40 [markd2]
but you'll always be *phylax to us
13:58:51 [markd2]
phunkyphylax
13:58:55 [Timesheetophylax]
lol
13:59:08 [Timesheetophylax]
Nikophylax?
13:59:27 [davb]
whats the ascii code for TAB?
13:59:37 [Timesheetophylax]
13?
13:59:42 [Timesheetophylax]
13 or 10 I think
13:59:47 [davb]
ok. thanks
14:00:00 [Timesheetophylax]
wait
14:00:09 [Timesheetophylax]
tab is 9 in Decimal
14:00:19 [davb]
ok.
14:00:34 [Timesheetophylax]
i was thinking of newline --> carriage return (10==>13)
14:01:12 [davb]
cool.
14:01:14 [davb]
works great
14:02:58 [markd2]
it's control-I
14:03:31 [markd2]
handy in emacs - sometimes control-i is more convient than the tab key
14:05:24 [davb]
heh. doesn't work in access. I have to build a formatted string or results including CR+LF and tabs.
14:06:33 [markd2]
arg
14:10:01 [davb]
it works. it's not pretty, but it works.
14:10:09 [rbm]
What I really want is for Emacs to insert a TAB when I hit TAB, instead of indenting
14:10:39 [markd2]
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14:10:53 [rbm]
ratz! I was hoping markd2 would answer that
14:10:59 [davb]
actually that makes sense. C-i means indent.
14:11:10 [markd2]
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14:11:24 [rbm]
What I really want is for Emacs to insert a TAB when I hit TAB, instead of indenting
14:11:29 [rbm]
* rbm pokes markd2
14:11:46 [jim]
rbm: will do that, in fundamental mode
14:12:24 [jim]
or maybe you could swap keybindings
14:13:17 [Timesheetophylax]
yes that would be nice
14:14:50 [markd2]
rbm: C-Q tab
14:14:54 [markd2]
or C-Q C-I
14:15:51 [markd2]
C-Q is veddy nice. handy in query-replace or replace-string if you want to do stuff with newlines
14:15:55 [markd2]
(use C-Q C-J for those)
14:17:30 [davb]
brb
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14:18:00 [rbm]
C-Q or C-q (or doesn't matter)?
14:18:35 [davb]
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14:20:03 [rbm]
markd2: Thanks. I'll change my bindings for Tab to become C-q tab now
14:24:03 [davb]
cool. I have mozilla hooked up to my mail, so I won't suffer email withdrawl when I can't ssh into my home machine.
14:25:25 [Timesheetophylax]
hmm
14:25:39 [Timesheetophylax]
* Timesheetophylax strikes up deals on behalf of Roberto for computer hardware
14:26:01 [rbm]
* rbm rejoices
14:26:22 [davb]
mozilla 1.0rc1 is definitely faster, at least on windows.
14:26:39 [markd2]
faster than say 0.99?
14:27:04 [davb]
yes.
14:41:56 [davb]
Timesheetophylax: know anything about small cases? I am building a PC for my dad and he doesn't have alot of room.
14:45:09 [Timesheetophylax]
you mean "FlexATX"?
14:48:01 [Timesheetophylax]
perfect solution for "non-gaming" audiences
14:48:16 [Timesheetophylax]
What's he using the box for anyway?
14:51:04 [Timesheetophylax]
* Timesheetophylax punts Dave into cookie batter
14:52:15 [Timesheetophylax]
oooh..."JEDI TRX" is available as a license plate
14:55:23 [markd2]
don't forget that saturday is national Star Wars day!
14:55:30 [Timesheetophylax]
Is it?
14:55:41 [markd2]
yep
14:55:44 [markd2]
May the Fourth
14:55:45 [markd2]
be with you
14:55:58 [Timesheetophylax]
* Timesheetophylax is not really a SW fanatic
14:56:05 [Timesheetophylax]
ROFL
14:59:48 [Timesheetophylax]
What happened to dave and roberto
15:00:01 [markd2]
Real Life problably intruded
15:00:06 [markd2]
going for a bike ride. bbl
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15:09:00 [davb]
Timesheetophylax: hi. he just uses mostly internet stuff.
15:13:22 [davb]
Timesheetophylax : also what was that mb with everything on it you mentioned?
15:14:05 [Timesheetophylax]
ECS one?
15:14:19 [Timesheetophylax]
Dave, the Shuttle SpaceWalker would work very well then
15:15:05 [Timesheetophylax]
it really depends on what you're trying to accomplish
15:16:07 [davb]
smallish machine. not too much $$$. I don't actually _need_ everything on the mb. its just easier.
15:16:25 [davb]
oh yeah. I don't need video on the mb either. unless its pretty good.
15:17:12 [Timesheetophylax]
well
15:17:46 [Timesheetophylax]
you can: 1. get a FlexATX solution...just add: memory, processor, hard drive, cd-rom, floppy
15:18:11 [Timesheetophylax]
or: 2. buy all of that plus video card, motherboard, case, ps, sound, network
15:19:57 [davb]
$219 is pretty good for the PIII model of that case/mb.
15:20:52 [Timesheetophylax]
yeah
15:20:56 [Timesheetophylax]
but if you do the math
15:21:09 [Timesheetophylax]
it will come out to about the same price if you got the things separately
15:21:17 [davb]
right.
15:21:25 [Timesheetophylax]
As in...that limits you to things you can buy
15:21:36 [davb]
well I can save $40-50 by going with an AMD solution instead of PIII
15:21:45 [Timesheetophylax]
right
15:22:50 [davb]
actually a AMD tbird 950 is $58
15:22:59 [davb]
thats almost half.
15:23:06 [Timesheetophylax]
Don't get anything less than a 1Ghz
15:23:14 [Timesheetophylax]
Is he planning on running Linux?
15:23:57 [davb]
nah.
15:24:32 [davb]
You are probably right. I have the 950 in my machine though. its pretty spiffy.
15:25:05 [Timesheetophylax]
yeah my 750 is my primary machine even though I have 2 other machines that are over 1.4Ghz
15:25:08 [Timesheetophylax]
go figure....
15:25:12 [davb]
plus my free mb only went up to 1ghz :)
15:25:32 [Timesheetophylax]
You have a number you don't want to go over?
15:25:48 [Timesheetophylax]
i'll tell ya what parts to get :)
15:25:49 [davb]
~500
15:25:53 [Timesheetophylax]
lol
15:25:59 [Timesheetophylax]
I was thinking more like 300$
15:26:03 [davb]
I need pretty much everything.
15:26:20 [Timesheetophylax]
ok, I'll make you a wishlist from Newegg at lunch
15:26:27 [davb]
cool thanks.
15:26:32 [Timesheetophylax]
:)
15:26:33 [davb]
that is probably faster than this :)
15:26:39 [davb]
I am not a hardware nerd anymore.
15:26:47 [Timesheetophylax]
You want "budget" stuff or you want "average"
15:27:42 [davb]
average. that way I don't have to upgrade for longer.
15:27:54 [davb]
Actually make it ~400
15:28:08 [Timesheetophylax]
D'oh
15:28:24 [davb]
mozilla 1.0rc1 has a little "you've got mail" popup.
15:28:25 [Timesheetophylax]
Average + 400 = compromises
15:28:39 [davb]
ah. well then switch to "bugerage"
15:28:43 [Timesheetophylax]
ok
15:28:50 [Timesheetophylax]
Anything specific you want/need?
15:29:08 [davb]
he has a 300 mhz something that can't take 128mb memory sticks.
15:29:34 [Timesheetophylax]
yeah, does he have any other parts?
15:29:35 [davb]
just regular stuff. dvd-rom maybe.
15:29:42 [Timesheetophylax]
Eg. Old PC100/PC133 ram?
15:29:57 [Timesheetophylax]
I was talking more like...Must have Athlon XP processor
15:30:03 [davb]
I think its pc100, 128mb.
15:30:06 [Timesheetophylax]
must have 64mb video card
15:30:25 [Timesheetophylax]
you know the ECS board can use old PC100/133 ram
15:30:32 [Timesheetophylax]
until you want to upgrade to DDR
15:30:38 [Timesheetophylax]
that can save 80$ right there
15:31:32 [davb]
that is cool.
15:32:34 [Timesheetophylax]
of course that's a performance hit :D
15:33:20 [barstool]
barstool is now known as talli
15:33:30 [davb]
yeah, but I am running oracle on my 950 with pc133 ram.
15:33:43 [Timesheetophylax]
* Timesheetophylax sits on talli
15:33:50 [davb]
it will be faster than what he has now :)
15:34:00 [Timesheetophylax]
mmkay
15:34:18 [talli]
* talli introduces Timesheetophylax to buttplugs
15:34:32 [Timesheetophylax]
?
15:36:39 [Timesheetophylax]
heh, dave, I have a low budget PC wishlist already
15:36:45 [Timesheetophylax]
Did he want a CD-RW?
15:36:53 [Timesheetophylax]
And how big of a hard drive does he need?
15:37:33 [Timesheetophylax]
5400 or 7200?
15:37:34 [paje]
7480
15:37:44 [davb]
paje: botsnack
15:37:45 [paje]
:)
15:37:47 [Timesheetophylax]
5400+7200 / 2
15:37:48 [paje]
9000
15:38:05 [Timesheetophylax]
(5400 + 7200) / 2
15:38:05 [paje]
6300
15:38:08 [Timesheetophylax]
good paje
15:38:58 [davb]
Timesheetophylax: maybe cdrw. hard drive 30 or 40, I guess. whatever is the best value these days.
15:39:07 [Timesheetophylax]
5400 or 7200?
15:39:07 [paje]
7480
15:39:11 [Timesheetophylax]
shut up paje!
15:39:26 [Timesheetophylax]
5400 and 7200?
15:39:27 [paje]
12600
15:39:28 [davb]
ack. does it matter?
15:39:32 [Timesheetophylax]
slightly
15:39:42 [Timesheetophylax]
Is your father planning on running Oracle too?
15:39:47 [davb]
no :)
15:39:53 [Timesheetophylax]
5400 works fine
15:40:10 [davb]
cool.
15:40:56 [Timesheetophylax]
ooh
15:40:58 [Timesheetophylax]
I know
15:42:02 [Timesheetophylax]
482$ shipped to your door
15:42:14 [Timesheetophylax]
Doh
15:42:20 [Timesheetophylax]
forgot the case and heatsink
15:42:24 [Timesheetophylax]
I'll work on it more
15:43:14 [Timesheetophylax]
check your e-mail
15:43:46 [Timesheetophylax]
the CD+RW/DVD thing is kick-ass for only 98$
15:43:59 [Timesheetophylax]
Best of all worlds
15:45:00 [rbm]
not good to use a cd-rw as a reader
15:45:24 [rbm]
* rbm is 2:15 h away from his final
15:45:38 [rbm]
* rbm feels the anxiety building up
15:45:39 [davb]
rbm: why not?
15:46:33 [rbm]
davb: burners have more overhead on moving the laser beam around.
15:46:49 [davb]
ah.
15:47:03 [davb]
DVD/CDRW might have 3 lasers...
15:47:27 [rbm]
I don't think so. I think it just send different wavelengths
15:47:32 [rbm]
sends even
15:47:39 [davb]
ah.
15:47:55 [davb]
but for a low use machine, i think it will be fine.
15:47:58 [Timesheetophylax]
oh well
15:48:08 [Timesheetophylax]
Still a good solution for someone on the budget
15:48:11 [rbm]
I could imagine it having 2 lasers, but I don't think it does
15:48:30 [rbm]
Yes, it's a good solution, but don't expect longevity on the burner if you'll be using it for lots of reading
15:48:44 [Timesheetophylax]
that
15:48:50 [Timesheetophylax]
that's why there's a warranty :P
15:49:27 [rbm]
warranties last only one year in general
15:51:16 [Timesheetophylax]
5,436 hours is how many days?
15:51:31 [Timesheetophylax]
5,436 / 24
15:51:37 [Timesheetophylax]
paje: 5436 / 24
15:51:37 [paje]
226.5
15:51:44 [Timesheetophylax]
good enough for me
15:51:52 [rbm]
that's less than a year
15:52:14 [rbm]
2/3 of a year
15:52:43 [Timesheetophylax]
hehe
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* Timesheetophylax gives mark a cookie
15:56:33 [markd2]
woo hoo!
15:58:00 [Timesheetophylax]
hehe
15:58:15 [Timesheetophylax]
can't quiet get woo hoo but W000 H00 is not taken
15:59:37 [Timesheetophylax]
lol
15:59:41 [Timesheetophylax]
WOOT is available too
16:00:23 [Timesheetophylax]
so is GTMYWAY
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16:07:07 [davb]
newegg.com is good. I made a wish list, then I setup an accont, they did not lost my wish list.
16:08:36 [Timesheetophylax]
cookie
16:08:40 [Timesheetophylax]
* Timesheetophylax hides from mark
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email me your wishlist
16:09:12 [davb]
ok.
16:09:28 [markd2]
* markd2 wishes for cookies
16:09:58 [Timesheetophylax]
newegg has them, go kill newegg
16:10:03 [talli]
markd2 smells like goats
16:10:14 [markd2]
no-pants-man!
16:12:07 [talli]
you're playing with fire bandejo
16:12:37 [markd2]
* markd2 plays the fire banjo
16:13:35 [Timesheetophylax]
dave, did you send it?
16:13:39 [talli]
i hope you're fueling your tango
16:13:50 [markd2]
I'm fueling the beat
16:13:53 [markd2]
gitdown!
16:13:53 [paje]
gitfunky
16:14:02 [davb]
Timesheetophylax: still building...
16:14:09 [talli]
paje was a little slow on that one
16:14:09 [paje]
talli: what?
16:14:18 [talli]
exacto
16:17:16 [talli]
http://www.bbspot.com/News/2000/5/clock_rift.html
16:17:17 [oacs-chump]
B: http://www.bbspot.com/News/2000/5/clock_rift.html from talli
16:17:28 [talli]
B: Overclocker Creates Rift in Space-Time Continuum
16:17:28 [oacs-chump]
added comment B1
16:19:13 [Timesheetophylax]
dave, mail me what you have
16:30:33 [davb]
Timesheetophylax: if it says P4 power suppl;y. will it work for AMD?
16:30:46 [Timesheetophylax]
yes
16:30:58 [Timesheetophylax]
It just means it comes with an extra connector thing
16:31:01 [davb]
ok.
16:31:02 [Timesheetophylax]
that they use on Pee4 boards
16:31:03 [davb]
cool.
16:31:16 [Timesheetophylax]
but check to make sure your P/S is on the list unless it's a quality P/S
16:32:31 [davb]
ok. I am looking at enlight.
16:32:40 [Timesheetophylax]
case+p/s?
16:32:43 [Timesheetophylax]
or just P/S?
16:33:48 [davb]
case+p/s
16:34:37 [Timesheetophylax]
ok
16:34:46 [davb]
how about superpower?
16:36:02 [Timesheetophylax]
never heard of them
16:36:15 [davb]
ok. its the same size as the enlight.
16:36:29 [davb]
although they have a cool desktop.
16:36:57 [davb]
ouch $20 shipping on the case. i guess I will get one locally.
16:37:12 [Timesheetophylax]
that's probably the best
16:41:49 [Timesheetophylax]
* Timesheetophylax thwaps© dave really hard for choosing a Pee4 motherboard and a Duron processor
16:41:52 [Timesheetophylax]
paje, insult davb
16:41:54 [paje]
davb is nothing but a thick thimbleful of impertinent entrails.
16:42:13 [Timesheetophylax]
what paje said
16:42:15 [davb]
that seems pretty stupid.
16:42:36 [Timesheetophylax]
yes, yes it does
16:42:59 [Timesheetophylax]
get the ECS K7S5A
16:43:03 [davb]
are you looking at my wish list?
16:43:16 [Timesheetophylax]
yes
16:43:25 [davb]
HUTTLE AK32L KT266 P4 266MHz FSB AMD Socket A ATX MOTHERBOARD - RETAIL
16:43:45 [Timesheetophylax]
yeah
16:43:49 [Timesheetophylax]
the P4 confused me
16:43:58 [Timesheetophylax]
Don't get a KT266 chipset board
16:44:04 [Timesheetophylax]
find a KT266A or KT333
16:44:06 [davb]
ok.
16:44:21 [Timesheetophylax]
and get the Volcano6+
16:44:27 [Timesheetophylax]
or 6
16:44:35 [Timesheetophylax]
6+ = fan spins faster (at 7000)
16:44:36 [davb]
ok.
16:44:43 [davb]
do I really need that?
16:44:44 [markd2]
* markd2 knows where to go next time he needs a system
16:45:16 [markd2]
Com' on down to star-o-phylax's world of tech! Mo' puters Mo 'puters Mo 'puters!
16:45:31 [Timesheetophylax]
the 6+?
16:45:50 [Timesheetophylax]
* Timesheetophylax gives mark a cookie to quiet him down
16:46:27 [davb]
yeah. I have to check if I have any pc133 sdram or not. then I can decide if I need a mb with sdram slots.
16:47:24 [Timesheetophylax]
yes
16:47:27 [Timesheetophylax]
brb...
16:48:18 [davb]
nm. the ecs has both.
16:51:52 [Timesheetophylax]
yup
16:53:24 [Timesheetophylax]
Going to lunch
16:53:27 [Timesheetophylax]
be back later
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17:03:15 [Timesheetophylax]
dave, looks good
17:03:55 [Timesheetophylax]
only thing I would splurge on is maybe add a 2nd stick of mem or get DDR 128
17:04:33 [Timesheetophylax]
And if Roberto is correct, the CD-RW/DVD thing...
17:04:44 [Timesheetophylax]
cheaper to get a 45$ DVD player if your dad doesn't burn cds
17:05:07 [Timesheetophylax]
Now...for a filling lunch of pizza and non-diet coke
17:05:16 [Timesheetophylax]
* Timesheetophylax Food-o-phylax
17:05:48 [davb]
Timesheetophylax: I think I have already 128, and I have a spare CDRW so I think I will get the regular DVD
17:16:20 [markd2]
Timeshareophylax
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18:01:49 [Timesheetophylax]
ok
18:02:37 [lethedrinker]
* lethedrinker drools over a g4 ti book
18:08:21 [Timesheetophylax]
ok
18:08:42 [Timesheetophylax]
* Timesheetophylax thwaps© himself for randomly saying ok and not following up
18:24:53 [markd2]
ok
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19:03:03 [Timesheetophylax]
wb
20:13:23 [davb]
talli: http://www-1.ibm.com/linux/linuxline/apr02/partnernews.shtml
20:23:39 [davb]
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2002/04/09/future.html
20:23:39 [oacs-chump]
C: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2002/04/09/future.html from davb
20:24:06 [davb]
C:|Inventing the Future - Tim O'Reilly
20:24:06 [oacs-chump]
titled item C
20:24:09 [davb]
C: i'll read this later
20:24:09 [oacs-chump]
added comment C1
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21:02:16 [Timesheetophylax]
Mark
21:02:24 [Timesheetophylax]
Timesheetophylax is now known as Wednesdayphylax
21:02:32 [Wednesdayphylax]
* Wednesdayphylax waves a cookie to attract mark's attention
21:03:24 [markd2]
* markd2 wakes up
21:03:24 [markd2]
whazzon?
21:03:53 [Wednesdayphylax]
Can I sned you something to see hwo bad iti s?
21:04:07 [markd2]
7428 - 4271
21:04:08 [paje]
3157
21:04:57 [Wednesdayphylax]
it's cookiemonster@badgertronics.com?
21:05:08 [markd2]
sure
21:05:25 [Wednesdayphylax]
Does that actually work? :)
21:05:52 [markd2]
yep
21:06:11 [markd2]
even talli-no-pants@badgertronics.com will work
21:07:38 [markd2]
lemme know if you send something. I'm not biff-enabled there
21:08:21 [Wednesdayphylax]
sent
21:14:54 [markd2]
what is it?
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21:26:38 [Wednesdayphylax]
I'm attempting to write a beginner's guide to triggers :-D
21:28:45 [markd2]
ok
21:28:56 [markd2]
the examples are kind of too contrived
21:29:06 [markd2]
I'd kinda like to see something more useful
21:29:19 [markd2]
like the second example could be done with a foreign key constraint
21:29:29 [markd2]
plus add more explanations as to why you'd want to use them
21:29:42 [markd2]
e.g. enforcing business rules, working around database feature limitations
21:29:50 [Wednesdayphylax]
i didn't finish it
21:30:02 [Wednesdayphylax]
that was an old rough draft I wrote like eons ago
21:30:14 [markd2]
I presumed you wanted some feedback
21:32:28 [vinod]
Wednesdayphylax: watch out, too, cuz markd2 charges by the nanosecond
21:33:03 [vinod]
usually, when i want his advice, i just wave my code in front of his eyes as fast as i can
21:33:58 [markd2]
:-)
21:34:18 [markd2]
and I usually blink too
21:34:22 [markd2]
which is still billable time
21:34:25 [markd2]
muahahaha
21:34:26 [vinod]
haha
21:34:53 [Wednesdayphylax]
* Wednesdayphylax wraps up the rest of the cookies and leaves
21:35:44 [vinod]
why are you wrapping up leaves?
21:35:59 [markd2]
I thought they were supposed to be stuffed
21:36:00 [markd2]
at least the Grape variety
21:36:29 [vinod]
maybe he's stuffing the leaves with cookies? mmmm
21:36:48 [markd2]
that would be tasty
21:37:52 [Wednesdayphylax]
* Wednesdayphylax stuffs mark with leaves
21:37:59 [Wednesdayphylax]
Wheeeeeee!
21:38:09 [vinod]
all three rolls of film that i took in moscow came out blurry :-(
21:38:15 [markd2]
now I can play Scarecrow in the wizard of oz
21:38:53 [vinod]
i think my camera must've busted in flight on the way there. damn!
21:39:31 [Wednesdayphylax]
that sucks
21:39:41 [Wednesdayphylax]
You didn't carry it on the plane with you?
21:39:41 [vinod]
maybe i can pretend that i was doing "impressionist" photography
21:39:56 [vinod]
no - i packed it
21:40:13 [markd2]
did it get turbo-nuked by xray machines?
21:40:16 [markd2]
fogging the film
21:40:44 [vinod]
well, there is one pic that came out perfect - that i took just before i left
21:41:18 [Wednesdayphylax]
hmmmmmm
21:41:26 [Wednesdayphylax]
I wouldn't have packed it
21:41:35 [vinod]
Wednesdayphylax: thanks
21:42:06 [Wednesdayphylax]
:(
21:42:21 [vinod]
oh well, guess i need to go to russia again :-)
21:42:38 [vinod]
this time with a digital camera, so i can see what the hell i'm doing
21:43:14 [Wednesdayphylax]
LOL
21:45:38 [Wednesdayphylax]
I go home now
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