00:21:14 markd2 has quit ("wheeeee") 00:44:12 til (til@port-212-202-128-197.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 00:51:56 talli (~talli@lti-4.dialup.access.net) has joined #openacs 02:09:50 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 02:33:42 denshi has quit () 03:29:30 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 04:54:09 abbaJ (~jabba@adsl-64-123-15-115.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) has joined #openacs 09:09:24 talli has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:25:17 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 11:59:11 markd2 (~markd2@h166-102-041-167.ip.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 12:49:25 wow. a 58-wheeled truck just passed by 12:49:37 markd258?? 12:49:53 * jim puts up a ui on his live site 12:50:30 yeah 12:50:34 It was a regular diesel truck-front 12:50:47 with about 10 wheels. and then a 12-axled trailer 12:50:59 this weird big cantilevered thing, carrying something that looks like the core for a nuclear reactor 12:51:12 where do you live? 12:51:13 must have been *heavy*, the truck was moving none too fast 12:51:15 Western PA 12:51:22 in a semi-rural area 12:51:25 * jim creates a negative vector 12:51:29 heh 12:51:52 * jim jumps in that direction :) 12:51:53 but there's a steel plant nearby, and I have a friend that works at Westinghouse that makes big military pumps 12:55:19 how do I get my cvs to give me a particular dir if I'm in the correct surrounding dir (example: I'm in /web/musical/packages, and I want to get key-sig-drill, which was checked in from /web/musical-stage/packages) 12:56:08 cvs -d dir-name 12:56:17 by default cvs doesn't create new directories for you 12:56:37 er, cvs update -d dir-name 12:56:54 bingo 12:57:17 now, was that the name of the farmer 12:57:19 or of the dog? 12:57:38 the dingo 12:57:42 heh 13:02:29 markd2: could you come back to the site http://12-233-225-152.client.attbi.com 13:02:52 (well, this is my user-interface-so-far, if you care to see it) 13:03:40 the key signature drill 13:04:46 (it is close to useful for its purpose, but it's not working exactly right... 13:05:56 kinda nice 13:06:05 and I got F# major right :-) 13:06:34 (now, if I can stop it from changing its mind on the question...) 13:06:59 heh 13:07:08 I didn't even notice 13:07:42 it doesn't check right from wrong yet... 13:07:57 it needs an ethics class 13:08:31 but will it change its mind upon registering for the class? 13:08:52 only if it's on the test 13:09:22 anyways, just wanted to show you that 13:09:55 * jim needs more coffee and mroe teevee 14:19:51 Homiephylax is now known as Psychephylax 14:19:54 morning all 14:25:21 * Psychephylax thwaps© markd2 and davb 14:25:26 hi paje 14:25:41 hello 14:26:16 Hey 14:26:28 Want a cookie mark? 14:26:31 sure! 14:26:35 never turn those down 14:26:43 call my boss and tell him I have to go somewhere 14:27:41 ok 14:28:14 "yo, turtle face, my homeophylax says that he be dissn' yo butt today, and dat yo mamma really looks fuuuuuugly first thing in the morning" 14:28:40 lol 14:28:57 * Psychephylax gives mark half an oatmeal cookie 14:30:19 What do people do when they have 0 desire to do work on a given day 14:30:31 surf 14:30:33 hang out on IRC 14:31:21 What if they also don't want to get fired and they need to come up with some sort of a result by the end of the day? 14:31:27 oh 14:31:29 hmmm... 14:31:35 guess yer screwed 14:31:41 you can always call in sick 14:32:45 Well, I'm already at work...AND, I have 0 sick days, 0 personal days and no vacation time 14:32:50 Ahhh...the joys of being an intern 14:35:56 "yer only paying me $3/hour, you're only gonna get $3/hour of work from me" 14:38:50 lol 14:38:52 hmmm 14:38:56 That just might work 14:38:57 :-0 14:42:49 know much perl? 14:43:32 Have a book on it... 14:43:35 but no...no I don't 14:47:56 ok 14:47:59 Ah, the only joy in my life....Diet Coke 14:48:03 found my answer i 14:48:29 What time is it in California? 14:49:22 7:49 14:49:27 paje, seen vinod? 14:49:27 vinod was last seen on #openacs 13 days, 19 hours, 12 minutes and 6 seconds ago, saying: BOS [Tue Apr 2 12:38:01 2002] 14:49:39 thanks Mark 14:50:03 talli has been pretty quiet without vinod around... 14:52:18 heh 14:52:25 I bought a motherboard, and it's broken 14:52:27 http://www.mamselle.ca/error.html 14:52:27 A: http://www.mamselle.ca/error.html from davb 14:52:30 Now I need to return it and get a new one 14:52:34 Psychephylax: check that link. 14:52:44 Psychephylax: :( 14:53:32 nice 404 page 14:53:45 http://www.infoworld.com/articles/pl/xml/02/04/15/020415plvirtuoso.xml 14:53:45 B: http://www.infoworld.com/articles/pl/xml/02/04/15/020415plvirtuoso.xml from davb 14:53:55 B:|Virtuoso XML/SQL database thingy 14:53:55 titled item B 14:54:20 B: "universal server"? 14:54:21 added comment B1 14:57:19 * markd2 gets dizzy from all the buzzwords 14:58:27 lol 14:58:37 * Psychephylax gives mark the other half of the oatmeal cookie 14:58:45 yay! 15:00:51 markd2: heh 15:03:34 Ok 15:03:40 I have a question for ya all 15:04:11 Say I want to set up a database back-ended website for my local bowling alley and pro-shop...What can I use besides OACS :) 15:04:31 I'm openminded on the DBMS... 15:04:37 tons o' tools out there 15:04:48 yeah, which one is easy to learn? 15:04:49 there's zope if you want to play with python 15:05:01 acs/java if you want to stick very sharp sticks in your eyes 15:05:09 phpnuke / slash 15:05:17 those are the biggies that I know about 15:05:20 I was considering Perl, ASP, JSP, PHP 15:05:21 check out freshmeat and sourceforge 15:05:37 rzolf is using another python library that he likes a lot 15:05:58 webware 15:08:46 ok, thanks mark 15:09:51 webware is supposed to be very good. 15:11:38 maybe I'll just borrow a weblogic cd from work :) 15:18:29 Damn 15:18:33 it's 82 outside 15:18:38 I want to go outside 15:18:49 I wonder if my boss will get mad if I move my cubicle outside 15:18:59 ooom 15:19:15 paje: seen talli? 15:19:15 talli was last seen on #openacs 18 hours, 47 minutes and 23 seconds ago, saying: and who are you? [Mon Apr 15 14:32:32 2002] 15:19:21 paje: seen tallilee? 15:19:21 I haven't seen 'tallilee', rbm 15:19:25 paje: seen talilee? 15:19:25 talilee was last seen on #openacs 2 days, 17 hours, 29 minutes and 0 seconds ago, saying: haha [Sat Apr 13 15:51:05 2002] 15:19:41 hey Roberto 15:19:46 paje seen Spork 15:19:46 Spork was last seen on #openacs 15 days, 1 hours, 37 seconds ago, saying: damnation [Mon Apr 1 07:19:49 2002] 15:19:52 Psychephylax is now known as SPork 15:19:56 SPork is now known as Spork 15:28:39 talli (~talli@xd84b5c59.ip.ggn.net) has joined #openacs 15:30:36 hey guys 15:30:55 barstool has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:31:25 talli! 15:31:30 hey rbm 15:31:32 how's it going? 15:31:37 Is there a list for momentum yet? 15:31:47 there is, sorta 15:31:50 it's not too active 15:31:57 Everytime I mention this project I get more people interested. I have two in another channel. 15:32:01 actually, kinda dead right now 15:32:04 well, great! 15:32:10 i would love to get some more life into it 15:32:17 One of them wants to write the docs (he's a technical writing major) 15:32:23 very awesome! 15:32:25 (with a CS minor) 15:32:29 he would come in handy IMMEDIATELY 15:32:34 he could write the specs 15:32:39 technical writer, huh? 15:32:49 can we clone him and spread him through the free software world? 15:33:00 :-) 15:33:31 looking forward to the social, btw 15:33:37 should be a very nice showing 15:33:53 of course, it's at a bbq place, and i decided to try vegetarianism this week 15:33:57 oh well 15:34:02 vegetarians still drink beer 15:34:08 talli: the social is next week... 15:34:09 there are no animals in beer, right? 15:34:15 oh right 15:34:19 i can always quit, huh? 15:34:36 no animals in beer. 15:37:26 * markd2 hands davb a Deer Beer 15:37:34 eeewwwwww 15:38:05 * talli hands davb a Pooh Beer 15:38:11 with honey 15:38:19 argh 15:38:33 anyone know how to get TWO ide cdrom/rw drives working with ide-scsi? 15:38:45 sacrifice goats 15:38:56 davb: Same way as you get one 15:39:01 talli: oh, i though that was to install oracle 15:39:05 rbm: :) 15:39:18 It it only recognizing the one... 15:40:38 davb: are you using lilo or grub? 15:41:40 lilo 15:42:04 append="hdc=ide-scsi, hdd=ide-scsi" 15:42:11 oh, there you go 15:42:14 get rid of the comma 15:42:18 heh 15:42:19 (I think) 15:42:23 can't hurt :) 15:42:42 yeah hdc is the missing one 15:42:53 brb 15:42:54 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 15:53:54 yay 15:53:59 I got like more documentation to write 16:04:18 griznog (~jbh@lepomis.usu.edu) has joined #openacs 16:05:25 hi griznog 16:05:34 talli: you still here? 16:05:37 rbm: imagine meeting you here? 16:05:46 :-) 16:07:09 paje: again! 16:07:09 * paje spanks talli 16:11:32 rbm: hi 16:11:43 hey jim 16:12:03 griznog is interested in participating in the calendar server project 16:15:23 bbiab 16:15:31 hey griznog 16:16:00 griznog: did you just send me an email? 16:16:33 remember I asked you maybe 2-3 weeks ago to help with my music drill, specifically to help me with ideas on how to add a data model? 16:16:40 (to rbm) 16:17:58 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 16:18:01 yeah! 16:18:02 another topic, in about 2 weeks or maybe longer, I will want to do calendary things 16:18:03 thanks rbm! 16:19:20 talli: yes I did. 16:19:24 cool! 16:19:29 griznog: hold on for a sec 16:19:39 rbm? 16:19:39 somebody said rbm was Roberto, http://www.brasileiro.net/ 16:19:40 i need to finish up another iM... that could lead to money 16:19:53 np 16:20:33 well, I know you'll read this soon; I gotta go out and about soon... so: 16:22:13 rbm: I'm getting closer to getting my key signatures drill done... I was wondering if you could take a look at what I have so far (easy to see, you'll understand everything right away, including the flaws, which will be fixed tonite) 16:22:24 markd2 has quit ("Bork") 16:23:20 the site is http://12-233-225-152.client.attbi.com/key-signatures/ 16:23:28 the site? 16:23:28 it has been said that the site is http://12-233-225-152.client.attbi.com/key-signatures/ 16:23:35 hah :P 16:24:16 take a look (and anyone else who wants to; it's a music theory drill) 16:26:02 jim: errr 16:26:26 jim: I don't remember about the music stuff, but I'd be glad to help 16:26:29 with basic questions being, does any of this lend itself to having a data model? can I serve a user better by saving something in a db table? 16:26:38 thanks, appreciate that 16:27:35 jim: mail what you have to me, or make it available somewhere and mail me the URL/ftp where do get it and I'll look at it when I return. 16:27:48 * rbm is going to the doctor to find out what kind of baby his wife is having 16:27:55 rbm: ok... or see above :) 16:28:05 rbm: probably the small kind :) 16:28:21 (they get bigger later tho :) 16:28:21 jim: cds are burning! 16:28:23 jim: :-) Oh, just noticed "the site". Yeah, it'll be small 16:28:27 yow! 16:28:27 You can't hurt me!! I have an ASSUMABLE MORTGAGE!! 16:28:34 heh 16:28:36 * rbm heads out 16:29:20 davb: hmmm, things are coming together nicely :) 16:29:28 my printer is in transit too :) 16:29:42 cool. 16:30:07 still no #5? which one is that? the one on picture language? 16:30:29 jim: i have the first half of 5, the second half is broken. 16:30:33 not sure, I never got that far :) 16:30:49 ohh, you definitely should when you get time 16:31:11 I'm stuck at picture language until I can get a problem set for it 16:31:17 I am planning on working it into my degree program. so I get college credit for watching it. 16:31:31 rockin... 16:31:32 no problem set at aduni.org? 16:31:46 these lectures I don;t think correspond to the aduni program 16:31:50 no... just -answers-, and supplemental code 16:31:53 yes, I know 16:32:01 but I can get code and problem sets for that 16:32:10 just not for the aduni one 16:32:17 ah. 16:32:27 that is weird. they just lost them? 16:32:32 so I'll do his picture language 16:32:41 maybe I'll write Holly and ask her 16:32:48 good idea. 16:33:02 80 GB drive is $149 this week I think.. 16:33:36 ok, gottago 16:33:42 bye 16:34:09 (we will resume with the delete-objects project soon) 16:35:47 right. 16:38:03 griznog: still here? 16:38:04 here is what happens: if I don't have anything in rzolf's form 16:38:23 paje, have you ever taken a pineapple up a nostril? 16:38:23 wish i knew, talli 16:38:35 paje, that's not something a person can forget 16:38:35 talli: i'm not following you... 16:38:55 paje, a pineapple up the nostril is a rather singular experience 16:38:55 OK, talli. 16:39:14 paje: so if it happened, you ought to be able to tell me quite readily 16:39:14 talli: what? 16:39:31 paje: i'll try again. have you ever taken a pineapple up a nostril? 16:39:31 talli: i haven't a clue 16:39:39 paje: christ almighty man! 16:39:39 talli: sorry... 16:40:03 paje: it's quite an easy question recquiring a yes or no answer. 16:40:03 talli: excuse me? 16:40:10 paje: yes or no? 16:40:10 talli: i don't know 16:40:23 paje: what kind of friggin' bot are you???!!! 16:40:24 i haven't a clue, talli 16:40:32 paje: you're not very sentient, are you? 16:40:32 talli: no idea 16:40:44 paje: this really is like talking to a wall. 16:40:44 OK, talli. 16:40:45 talli: yes 16:40:53 paje: i'll deal with you later 16:40:53 talli: huh? 16:40:53 did you make some money? :) 16:41:04 griznog: no, not yet. just strategizing to make moeny 16:41:07 and take over the world 16:41:12 good luck 16:41:43 griznog: if you'd like, let's head over to the groovy and hip #momentum 16:42:21 ok, brt 17:01:25 markd2 (~markd2@h166-102-041-163.ip.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 17:17:54 denshi (~chatzilla@adsl-216-62-223-193.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) has joined #openacs 17:50:27 jim2 (jim@adsl-209-182-168-34.value.net) has joined #openacs 17:51:01 re, justgetting myIP :) 17:51:16 the site? 17:51:16 the site is, like, http://12-233-225-152.client.attbi.com/key-signatures/ 17:51:42 cool :) 17:51:51 I'm out 17:51:57 jim2 has quit (Client Quit) 18:09:38 [GlobalNotice] Hello everyone! I hope everyone's day is going well. I just wanted to remind everyone that we're still accepting artwork for our logo and t-shirt campaign. Questions or submissions may be sent to mysticone@openprojects.net, or you may contact me here with the nick MysticOne. Any help you can give us is much appreciate, and as always we thank you for using the Open Projects Network. 18:18:57 [GlobalNotice] Just to clarify a few things. We're looking for a logo that emphasis community involvement and work, not just software development. Also, high resolution/dpi is desired if you're submitting a final proof, but concept sketches are fine too. Just e-mail submissions to mysticone@openprojects.net. Thank you! 18:26:19 denshi has quit (Remote closed the connection) 18:29:49 if you ever need computer parts... newegg.com is the way to go 18:30:01 paje seen markd 18:30:01 I haven't seen 'markd', Spork 18:30:04 paje seen markd2 18:30:04 markd2 was last seen on #openacs 2 hours, 51 minutes and 21 seconds ago, saying: # http://badgertronics.com/hacks/winnie.mov [Tue Apr 16 09:39:23 2002] 18:30:22 paje, seen a_cookie 18:30:22 I haven't seen 'a_cookie', Spork 18:30:42 That's right, Mark ate them before you woke up 18:33:33 heh 18:33:48 :) 18:33:56 Feeble minded bots are fun to play with 18:34:25 poor paje 18:34:26 * paje weeps 18:35:27 paje is not feeble minded! he's just an obstinate bastard 18:35:34 ain't that right, paje? 18:35:34 talli: excuse me? 18:35:41 FUCK YOU PAJE! 18:38:14 ROFL 18:38:21 calm down talli he's just a bot 18:38:28 look, I have his brain in my hand 18:38:29 well, so am i 18:38:35 cool 18:38:42 but i don't give such frustrating answers 18:38:45 * Spork uploads a virus into talli's brain 18:39:24 * markd2 wonders how we would notice 18:39:31 talli: botsnack 18:39:41 * Spork eats the botsnack 18:39:51 Spork is now known as B0rk_ 18:39:56 B0rk_ is now known as sB0rk 18:40:08 * talli sends a million volt bolt at sB0rk 18:40:13 ouch 18:41:12 sB0rk is now known as sB0t 18:43:23 ooom 18:52:16 mooo 19:20:57 markd2 has quit ("Bork") 19:24:21 denshi (~chatzilla@adsl-216-62-223-193.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) has joined #openacs 19:36:47 so sleepy 19:36:49 so so sleepy 19:37:02 sB0t is now known as Sleep 19:37:07 Sleep is now known as SleepAtWorkiephy 19:42:11 http://oceanpark.com/ap5.html 19:42:12 C: http://oceanpark.com/ap5.html from denshi 19:42:21 C: "Relational Common LISP" 19:42:21 added comment C1 19:43:10 C: the relational calculus in common lisp. 19:43:10 added comment C2 19:43:31 C: I think I'm in love. 19:43:32 added comment C3 19:49:13 SleepAtWorkiephy is now known as NeedsSleep 19:54:27 denshi has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:55:04 I'm about to fall asleep and hit my head on the desk 20:04:03 * NeedsSleep flatlines staring at the monitor 20:07:55 denshi (~chatzilla@adsl-216-62-223-193.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) has joined #openacs 20:43:44 markd2 (~Snak@h166-102-041-140.ip.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 20:43:50 * NeedsSleep gives mark a cookie 20:45:04 heh 20:45:07 that exciting of a day? 20:46:12 * talli has been resting. the night is when the animals attack 20:54:18 * denshi knocks markd2 over and steals his cookie. 20:55:15 my cookie! nooo!!!!! 20:55:48 someone should program talli-the-bot to protect the cookies! 20:56:00 * denshi sells mark's cookie to a puerto rican cookie smuggling operation. 20:56:03 * talli the bot protects them in his stomach 20:56:34 oh, then the day is when the cookie bots attack? 20:58:16 I go home 20:58:20 NeedsSleep is now known as Homiephylax 20:58:24 Laters all 20:59:02 * Homiephylax sneaks another cookie to Mark, quick eat it fast 20:59:08 num num 20:59:22 lol 20:59:27 man, this will never get old 20:59:50 * Homiephylax goes home 21:12:26 what's up in badgerland, mark? 21:13:16 nammach 21:42:31 paje, seen rzolf? 21:42:31 rzolf was last seen on #openacs 6 days, 18 hours, 35 minutes and 25 seconds ago, saying: ok. better go work on my bottling logistics. [Tue Apr 9 21:07:46 2002] 21:55:36 talli is now known as barstool 21:57:33 griznog has quit ("Download Gaim [http://gaim.sourceforge.net/]") 22:11:02 Mr_You (rouzer@mankind.boredom.org) has joined #openacs 22:11:03 hi 22:11:04 que tal, Mr_You 22:12:06 whats the status of Open ACS? 22:14:22 Mr_You has left #openacs 22:34:18