00:09:31 time to get my weekend started... 00:09:34 bye 00:09:59 denshi has quit ("denshi has no reason") 00:15:36 hmm. sick idea...relational database in Excel? :-) 00:32:23 talli_ (~talli@188.muka.lasv.snfccafj.dsl.att.net) has joined #openacs 00:48:51 talli has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:59:44 talli_ has quit ("Client Exiting") 00:59:51 talli_ (~talli@188.muka.lasv.snfccafj.dsl.att.net) has joined #openacs 01:00:09 talli_ is now known as talli 03:08:55 hazmat (~chatzilla@adsl-66-123-57-58.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) has joined #openacs 03:14:30 Hi hazmat 03:14:49 Hi GEM 03:18:46 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 03:24:35 Hm. trying to build from source, per the documentation, and not getting too far :-( 03:24:52 docs in http://openacs.org/doc/openacs-4/aolserver.html 03:27:30 Odd. it claims to have found that gcc is called with "cc", that we are not using GNU cc and that we are cross-compiling 03:27:58 this on a Debian woody system that I just updated today. Wonder if that broke something 03:30:38 hi. 03:30:40 weird. 03:30:45 Should work fine. 03:30:51 let me try it. woody is testing? 03:32:02 GEM : also which aolserver are you using? 03:32:41 i just compiled 3.4.2-openacs and it worked ok. 03:33:14 Yes, woody is testing 03:33:47 ok. i tried it over on my web server box, which I just installed a couple of days ago with woody and it built ok. 03:33:52 I was using the 3.3+ad13 as suggested in the openacs-4 docs I mentioned 03:34:02 i suspect that would work for me to. 03:34:09 Where's 3.4.2-openacs? 03:34:13 my 'cc' calls gcc 03:34:37 I don't have a "cc" - "which cc" returns blank 03:34:55 'scuse me - need to say goodnight to my stepdaughter 03:35:01 np 03:35:11 weird. 03:35:23 you must be missing some package. 03:35:42 my cc is in /usr/bin/cc linked to /etc/aletrnatives/cc 03:36:00 which links back . usr/bin/gcc 03:36:16 http://uptime.openacs.org/aolserver-openacs/ 03:36:16 A: http://uptime.openacs.org/aolserver-openacs/ from davb 03:36:29 A:| Alternative AOLserver distribution for OpenACS 03:36:29 titled item A 03:39:43 weird, it says no package owns that... 03:40:03 huh. I wonder what I am missing 03:40:32 do you have a /etc/alternatives directory? 03:40:43 let me check 03:42:04 I do have the directory 03:43:00 any cc in there? 03:43:12 nope 03:45:00 i would say just symlink /usr/bin/gcc to /usr/bin/cc to see if it works, but it is bugging me that you don't have those links... 03:45:21 it's bugging me, too, and I'll deal with it later - it is too late now 03:45:29 remember - spring forward tonight :-) 03:45:37 right, thanks 03:45:52 Will have to catch you later and see what we can do later 03:46:05 I am thinking about making a "library" package :-) 03:46:53 I think I'd prefer to use "update-alternatives" 03:49:36 ok. 03:51:54 Huh. "apt-get install gcc" installs some stuff. this confuses me 03:52:25 cause I had a gcc installed. apparently, not the gcc package 03:53:25 I suppose that it is possible that I had not installed gcc, but I truly thought I had 03:53:32 ./conf is working much better now 03:53:45 taking actual time, not 8 seconds or whatever it took before 03:54:49 excellent. 04:08:01 [Global Notice] Hi all. Looks like our first cutover to the latest code is going to be Europe. Wallops and notices to users on each individual server will keep track of the conversions. Expect some netsplits and joins. Apologies for the inconvenience and thank you for using OPN! 04:16:14 GEM has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 04:21:29 til has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 04:21:35 til (til@port-212-202-128-197.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 04:24:23 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 04:27:14 talli has quit (Remote closed the connection) 04:27:36 [Global Notice] Hi all. Our primary European hubbing is now going to be restarted. This will affect all of Europe and should take a bit longer to recover. Please bear with us. 04:28:21 til has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 04:28:49 til (til@port-212-202-128-197.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 04:31:13 [Global Notice] Hi all. OPN's European leaf and hub nodes have all been converted. Users in Europe will notice that they once again receive errors when directing private messages no nonexistent nicks. Various other problems have been corrected. Next scheduled upgrades will be around 8am OPN time (UTC). Thanks for your patience. 04:53:16 [Global Notice] Hi all. Just a reminder. In roughly 4 hours we'll be restarting the US servers and main hubs to upgrade to resolve a few remaining problems. Expect some service disruption at that time. Thanks. 09:20:53 til has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 09:24:49 til (til@port-212-202-128-197.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 09:24:50 til has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 09:43:04 [Global Notice] Hi all. We found a buglet in the new code in KLINE processing and will be back up on the old code in Europe momentarily. 09:46:34 til (til@port-212-202-128-197.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 09:46:42 til has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 09:48:43 til (til@port-212-202-128-197.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 09:49:00 til has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 09:51:27 til (til@port-212-202-128-197.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 09:51:32 til has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 09:52:15 til (til@port-212-202-128-197.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 09:52:58 til has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 09:55:27 til (til@port-212-202-128-197.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 09:55:49 [Global Notice] Hi all. Please bear with us as we diagnose and resolve this latest problem. Coder is online looking at it now. 09:57:08 til has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 09:58:52 til (til@port-212-202-128-197.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 09:59:23 til has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:00:14 [Global Notice] Hi all. If you just came in, we're diagnosing a problem with both old and new code that the upgrade has exposed. Please bear with us. Thanks. 10:03:45 til (til@port-212-202-128-197.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 10:07:28 [Global Notice] Further detail on WALLOPS (/umode +w, /mode +w, etc) 10:33:50 [Global Notice] Hi all. We have the issue resolved and will finish the conversion. We're going to restart the core servers and the main hubbing, which will be pretty painful, then we'll do Europe, then Australia. Please bear with us and expect fairly massive service interruption. We'll come out of it with some more bug issues resolved. Thanks. 10:35:53 Disconnected from irc.openprojects.net (Connection reset by peer) 10:36:11 oacs-logger (nobody@xd84b5c5a.ip.ggn.net) has joined #openacs 10:36:11 topic is: OpenACS: Free Web Toolkit, 4.5=Tcl and proud of it! 10:36:12 Users on #openacs: oacs-logger paje rbm shagster abbaJ _djg_ til tontsa 10:36:12 [#openacs] This channel is logged: http://www.blogspace.com/openacs/chatlogs/ and blogged: http://www.thedesignexperience.org/openacs/ircblog 10:36:54 oacs-chump (~oacs-chum@alb-24-58-160-28.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 10:38:56 shagster has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:38:58 shagster (~mkovach@web1.alal.com) has joined #openacs 10:42:58 shagster has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:42:58 oacs-chump has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:42:58 paje has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:42:58 abbaJ has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:42:58 <_djg_> _djg_ has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:42:58 rbm has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:42:59 paje (~paje@slxwy.dorms.usu.edu) has joined #openacs 10:43:03 shagster (~mkovach@web1.alal.com) has joined #openacs 10:43:10 abbaJ (~jabba@adsl-64-123-15-107.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) has joined #openacs 10:43:57 oacs-chump (~oacs-chum@alb-24-58-160-28.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 10:47:12 paje has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:47:12 tontsa has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:47:37 tontsa (tontsa@livingfor.net) has joined #openacs 10:47:41 paje (~paje@slxwy.dorms.usu.edu) has joined #openacs 10:48:55 [Global Notice] Main hubbing will now be converted. Please hold on tight. 10:49:01 oacs-chump has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:49:01 paje has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:49:01 tontsa has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:49:01 abbaJ has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:49:01 shagster has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:49:01 til has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:49:23 oacs-chump (~oacs-chum@alb-24-58-160-28.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 10:49:36 paje (~paje@slxwy.dorms.usu.edu) has joined #openacs 10:49:36 tontsa (tontsa@livingfor.net) has joined #openacs 10:49:36 abbaJ (~jabba@adsl-64-123-15-107.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) has joined #openacs 10:49:36 shagster (~mkovach@web1.alal.com) has joined #openacs 10:49:41 [#openacs] This channel is logged: http://www.blogspace.com/openacs/chatlogs/ and blogged: http://www.thedesignexperience.org/openacs/ircblog 10:53:14 [Global Notice] The main rotation and hubbing are all back up on new code. There will be some smaller conversions for the next few minutes. Thanks for your patience and thank you for using OPN! :) 10:55:08 til (til@port-212-202-128-197.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 11:08:15 til has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11:09:07 [Global Notice] Hi all. We're going to do NZ and AU next. I'll post one more notice when the servers are all done. 11:16:23 [Global Notice] Okay, looks like everything is converted successfully. Thanks for your patience. 12:26:12 til (til@port-212-202-128-197.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 12:26:39 til has quit ("#oacs") 12:26:51 til (til@port-212-202-128-197.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 12:39:56 GEM (~mcmullan@MULTICS.MIT.EDU) has joined #openacs 12:42:13 GEM has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 14:03:56 talli (~talli@188.muka.lasv.snfccafj.dsl.att.net) has joined #openacs 15:34:21 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 16:00:19 davb has quit ("changing universes") 16:19:30 markd2 (~markd2@r-41.88.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 16:33:31 markd2 has quit ("Bork") 17:01:00 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 17:11:15 rbm (rmello@fslc.usu.edu) has joined #openacs 19:06:08 hey rbm, davb 19:06:17 hi 19:06:17 hello, davb 19:06:22 hi 19:06:28 fuck you paje 19:06:41 davb: are you going to be able to make the social? 19:07:12 i hope so. I just have to make sure I can get off from work. but it looks good so far. 19:07:29 GEM_ (~mcmullan@MULTICS.MIT.EDU) has joined #openacs 19:07:38 ok, cool 19:07:44 lemme know if you need a place to crash 19:07:45 GEM_ is now known as GEM 19:07:58 thanks. 19:08:13 rbm: did you get any notification from travelocity about your flight? 19:09:28 THis is the social in my old stomping grounds? (Somerville?) 19:10:27 yeah 19:10:33 GEM: are you in boston anymore? 19:10:34 Label GEM not found. 19:11:42 talli: not since my wedding, Sept 22 19:12:16 I used to get horribly lost in Somerville, proper, but Cambridge, Arlington, Boston were fine :-) 19:18:07 brb 19:18:08 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 19:20:53 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 19:36:27 davb: Partial success on my debian install. got aolserver compiled and working 19:36:37 now to get the openacs parts going :-) 19:40:54 no problem, should work fine. 19:41:06 ns_xml compiles nicely on Woody now :) 19:46:22 I'm trying to figure out how to integrate the nice instructions on the openacs web site with the default debian locations for things 19:46:48 hazmat (~chatzilla@adsl-66-123-57-58.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) has joined #openacs 20:01:10 talli has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:02:45 ah, good idea. 20:09:44 There are pieces of how the files interact that I have not worked out in my head yet 20:15:45 IRCMonkey (~chatzilla@steigman.ne.client2.attbi.com) has joined #openacs 20:18:57 davb: do you know what files should be findable in PGLIB and PGINC? 20:44:17 i think PGLIB is /usr/lib/pgsql/lib/ 20:44:17 Hmm. No matches for that, davb. 20:44:22 heh 20:44:37 you are using a postgresql debian package? 20:44:47 hi IRCMonkey 20:48:22 Ahh, I think I needed to have installed postgresql-dev, as well as postgresql with apt-get :-) 20:48:39 yes. that is where the inc files are. 20:48:48 are you planning on installing openfts? 20:48:59 OK, so I am slowly getting the set of packages necessary :-) 20:49:12 I think that that would be a good thing, in the long run 20:49:25 you don't need postgresql-dev for plain openacs, but you do for openfts. 20:59:43 OK, off to dinner now 21:03:17 markd2 (~markd2@r-41.157.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 22:11:42 markd2 has quit ("Bork") 22:13:28 markd2 (~Snak@r-41.157.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 22:47:23 markd2 has quit ("wheeeee") 23:07:14 talli (~talli@188.muka.lasv.snfccafj.dsl.att.net) has joined #openacs 23:08:16 til has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 23:09:30 Hey talli 23:09:52 hey GEM 23:10:02 what's doin' today? 23:29:34 hi talli 23:30:57 hey hazmat 23:31:11 hows it going? 23:31:30 pretty good, you? 23:32:28 looking for work, and working, still 23:56:02 talli: installing OACS4.5 on my newest debian box. slowly slowly 23:56:24 trying to work, anyway, after a wonderful meal at Outback Steakhouse 23:57:34 hazmat: http://www.craigslist.org/sfo/sof/3370061.html 23:58:52 cool, i'll check it out, thanks... i had two interviews last week hopefully something will turn up soon... 23:59:23 talli: whatever happened with that girl whose play you went to? 23:59:35 * hazmat is insatiable curious :-)