00:45:09 goodbye, and thanks for all the fish 00:45:11 hazmat has left #openacs 01:25:22 talilee (~talli@64.75.149.122) has joined #openacs 01:27:23 talilee is now known as talli 02:45:11 talli_ (~talli@64.75.149.122) has joined #openacs 02:45:47 markd2 (~Snak@r-41.152.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 02:47:25 yo markd2 02:47:32 yo_ talli_ 02:47:56 whazzon? 02:47:56 the _ is to differentiate me from that phony, talli 02:48:15 not much. getting redhat to run on my laptop 02:48:18 apt-rpm is quite nice 02:48:35 linux seems to be quickly getting useable, for non-geeks that is 02:48:43 at least until i gets meself some OSX 02:49:07 HOT OSXXX 02:49:35 speak it, bro 03:12:38 talli has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:12:49 talli_ is now known as talli 03:27:54 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 03:29:25 should I change the topic? 03:29:40 haha 03:30:00 did I miss something? 03:30:48 apt works much better with a broadband connection 03:30:51 til the interval thing is in the README i think 03:30:55 yes, very nicely 03:34:26 I can't look at this now... but they made it by march 29 anyway. 03:35:56 yeah, they made it by 3/29 03:36:09 too bad they initially promised it for 12/01 03:36:10 Psychephylax (nblyumbe@ool-18bd7775.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #openacs 03:36:13 doh 03:36:20 Mark...you awake? 03:36:32 barely 03:36:38 how do I start oracle 03:36:45 svrmgrl 03:36:47 connect internal 03:36:49 startup 03:36:54 thats easy :) 03:37:00 * markd2 == davb 03:37:03 I have to install oracle though to fool with it 03:37:32 hehe 03:37:35 you might need to sudo su - to the 'oracle' user, or you yourself be in the 'dba' grope 03:37:37 er, group 03:37:46 I'm a dba ;) 03:37:54 I just have a poor memory 03:40:34 where's that beeyatch paje? 03:40:47 prolly out humpin' da rzolf 03:41:25 again 03:41:29 ? 03:45:05 isn't he always? 03:45:33 it's too bad we don't have bebop to make fun of anymore 03:45:48 may it rest in pieces 03:47:59 markd2 has quit ("wheeeee") 03:48:10 So sleepy 03:52:30 talli has quit (Remote closed the connection) 03:53:59 talli (~talli@64.75.149.122) has joined #openacs 03:59:34 due to the oracleness of dotlrn at the current time, I won't be installing it today... 03:59:55 ;) 04:00:10 no way I can get oracle installed tonight.... too tired 04:00:30 I am not even sure I have 8.1.7 on CD.... 04:01:58 Just Dl it 04:02:03 heh... 04:02:20 when I dled 8.1.6 I got 3k/s from their ftp site. it took over 24 hours to dl it. 04:02:43 I have to buy this cable modem 04:02:48 ? 04:02:54 on eBay 04:03:03 ooohh I do have it on CD 04:03:09 ;-) 04:03:13 I am still not quite crazy enough to install tonight... 04:03:50 all the docs are strangely ADPs instead of templated static pages... kinda wacky 04:07:26 they also don't quote the attributes in their HTML, very annoying, totally won't validate. 04:08:15 I still don't know what it doesn though... 04:09:12 I think with file storage, surveys, bboards and the portal things, it is enough to start with for an elearning platform... 04:12:07 cool, an animal shelter project locally! 04:12:12 I have to apply for this... 04:12:35 although the price seems kinda low, oh well, I work cheap :) 04:15:54 *sigh* 04:15:56 Hi Talli 04:29:09 ok, i submitted a proposal for openacs for this project, 04:29:39 :-) 04:29:42 go dave...go dave 04:29:48 heh 04:30:01 I am already working two jobs and planning on going back to school. 04:30:13 I am going to need a time machine or something if I actually get the project :) 04:32:20 I wonder why, if OF wants to port dotlrn to postgresql, but that is not part of the MIT Sloanspace project, they don't ask for community support... 04:32:55 I think I like the new portal system... gotta get that in OpenACS 04:33:56 hmmmm.... they are creating specific read,create,delete,modify,admin privileges instaed of using the built-in oness....seems wrong 04:34:25 maybe not.. 04:39:37 hehe 04:46:42 * Psychephylax prepares to snipe eBay auction 04:46:48 timer...check 04:46:54 argh 04:46:57 auction webpage...check 04:47:03 Reserve funs...check 04:47:05 7.2 does not like openacs 4-5 beta 04:47:12 4 minutes to go...check 04:47:23 good luck... might be back tomorrow 04:47:33 Free shipping...check 04:47:37 ok, nite nite 04:48:23 Aha 04:48:34 we have a new player in the game of "Snipe this auction" 04:49:06 and another one! 04:49:22 ohhh. 04:49:23 bye 04:49:25 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 06:44:30 talli has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12:56:50 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 13:07:40 http://www.postnuke.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1784&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 13:07:40 A: http://www.postnuke.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1784&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 from davb 13:07:49 A:|PostNuke live IRC support 13:07:49 titled item A 13:08:33 A: A great idea... all we need are the volunteers 13:08:33 commented item A 13:08:51 A: also check out the home page. You can get alot of information right from there. 13:08:51 commented item A 13:39:45 jim (~jim@12-233-187-5.client.attbi.com) has joined #openacs 13:39:52 re. 13:40:42 welp, I found a bug I found before but forgot to report... ran across it again... guess what kind of thing I can't delete? 13:41:04 users! 13:42:10 I delete a user... it says "I did it"... I try to create the user again, using same email address... it says "that email is in the database already" 13:49:01 that seems wrong 13:49:03 :) 13:49:12 I am going to install oracle today I think. 13:49:25 should be nice on my 950mhz 512mb ram 13:49:26 mornin davb 13:50:04 oops, i forgot, my cdrom isn't working.. 13:50:05 argh! 13:50:38 says no medium found... 13:51:06 ah... ide-cd is loading as well as ide-scsi... 13:52:04 hmm... do I need ide-cd and ide-scsi? 13:52:08 no 13:52:24 try accessing the cd as /dev/sr0 13:52:26 my bad. I must have gotten confused with my config file. 13:52:33 yeah, it says no medium 13:52:39 works in win, 13:52:59 is there any way to reset this without rebooting? 13:53:46 umm, did you insert a module recently? 13:54:44 has accessing the drive as /dev/sr0 ever worked before? 13:56:19 yeah, before I reinstalled the entire OS :) 13:56:26 I'll fix it later. thanks for helping. 13:56:28 oh :) 13:56:34 np :) 13:56:44 bbiab 14:11:09 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 14:14:59 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 14:15:03 I figured it out. 14:15:16 I have a CDROM and CDRW, the cdrw should be sr0 14:15:20 its not. :) 14:15:33 so I was putting the disc in the wrong drive. 14:16:49 ahh :) 14:17:12 so quick config change, or not and put disk in other drive, and binko! 14:17:30 well, it won't recognize the other drive, i'll fix that later. 14:17:57 what kernel you running?" 14:18:04 2.4.18 14:18:18 cool, which you'll need for oracle 14:18:37 really. hmmm, I used 2.2.19 before. 14:19:33 well, it's possible to use 2.2.x, but for some versions of orackle it was necessary to edit some .h files to make certain areas of memory larger 14:19:53 ah. i never ran into that luckily. 14:20:20 we did... but that all went away with 2.4.x 14:20:52 8.1.6 didn't need it; 8.1.7 wouldn't even install unless you did 14:21:19 I did install it, I must have been really lucky 14:21:53 hmm... or I'm not remembering correctly 14:22:08 no big deal :) 14:27:13 bbiaw... coffee 14:27:40 bbl oracle 14:27:41 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 14:48:56 davb (oracle@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 14:55:17 markd2 (~markd2@r-41.74.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 14:55:57 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 14:56:24 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 14:57:43 * davb installs oracle 14:58:25 * markd2 hears birds chirping outside 14:58:45 that sounds much nicer than oracle 14:58:53 and the display thing is not working, argh... 14:58:56 bbl 14:58:58 davb has quit (Client Quit) 15:17:18 markd2 has quit ("Bork") 15:25:48 markd2 (~Snak@r-41.74.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 15:32:22 jim has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:46:55 <_djg_> l 15:49:35 U 16:18:10 Shaft! 16:20:28 * markd2 gitsdown 16:20:28 Shaaaft...can you dig it? 16:21:33 The old and the new meet together in one spectacular Showtime showing of Shhhaaaaaft :-D 16:24:13 jim (~jim@12-233-187-5.client.attbi.com) has joined #openacs 16:24:17 re 16:29:08 I want to take a database created in pg-7.2 and dump it out, for later restore by pg-7.1... 16:29:42 paje, seen rbm 16:31:17 I haven't seen rbm in ages, jim 16:31:31 it's now chump's turn to be paje 16:31:38 or paje, it seems :) 17:33:57 alltelsucks (~markd2@r-41.118.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 17:40:51 alltelsucks has quit ("Bork") 17:41:10 markd2 has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: alltelsucks!~markd2@r-41.118.alltel.net))) 18:08:03 davb (oracle@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 18:08:16 * davb has been defeated by oracle again :( 18:08:23 why? 18:08:40 I can't start the database, or stop it. 18:08:52 somehow it was started and now it won't stop. 18:08:59 wow... 18:09:08 what version? 18:09:13 8.1.7 18:09:20 ORA-01034: ORACLE not available 18:09:32 I might have to reinstall. 18:09:35 that means it's not started... 18:09:38 At least I have that part down.. 18:09:42 did you create the initial database? 18:09:44 startup says its already running :) 18:09:47 not yet. 18:10:07 that is where I am stuck, the script won't run because it can't connect to oracle. 18:10:26 hmm 18:10:53 no big deal, I have to go to work soon, I'll wrangle with it later. I always have to unintall oracle at least once before it works 18:11:31 8.1.7 needs a separate jdk 18:11:39 I forgot to install the patch for glibc 2.2 before I tried to run dbassist... 18:11:44 jdk? 18:11:51 java devel kit 18:11:54 I just installed the jre from blackdown. 18:12:04 that should be ok 18:12:08 which one? 1.1.8? 18:12:12 1.3 18:12:28 I've tried with 1.3 and it did work... 18:12:37 everything intalled fine. last time I had an incredible time just getting the installer to run. 18:13:12 well, thanks for trying. I have to go now... 18:13:24 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 18:20:24 Kalist (stan@tamqfl1-ar2-4-42-010-219.tamqfl1.vz.dsl.gtei.net) has joined #OpenACS 18:22:05 Kalist has left #OpenACS 20:07:24 jim has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:15:37 [Global Notice] Hi all. dancer-ircd-1.0.31+maint4 is up and running on the test network. We urgently need you to spend time trying to break the thing. You should be able to get to the testnet by using your favorite OPN server, and specifying port 9001 instead of the usual port. Please come help us out! 20:26:19 markd2 (~markd2@r-41.118.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 20:27:29 [Global Notice] Hi all. Apologies, but we really could use more users on the testnet. Conversion coming up. Please connect to irc.openprojects.net:9001 .... thanks! 21:22:12 denshi (toddg@linux128.ma.utexas.edu) has joined #openacs 21:27:05 denshi has quit ("denshi has no reason") 21:46:14 [Global Notice] Hi all. Yet another reminder, please come help us test the new server code release, 1.0.31+maint4, on the testnet. Pick your favorite OPN server and specify port number 9001. Chances are that will get you there. Any assistance you can provide will be *greatly* appreciated at this point. Thanks. 22:55:59 http://lart.badf00d.org/project1.html 22:55:59 B: http://lart.badf00d.org/project1.html from markd2 22:56:05 B:|Mangonel LART Project 22:56:05 titled item B 23:19:12 jim (~jim@12-233-187-5.client.attbi.com) has joined #openacs 23:40:33 denshi (toddg@linux128.ma.utexas.edu) has joined #openacs 23:41:09 re 23:44:05 howdee 23:44:53 hello gents 23:48:12 say I have www.ook.com, and I want anyone that goes to www.ook.com to be redirected to just ook.com (without the leading www) 23:48:15 is there an easy way to do that? 23:48:57 markd2, did you get back the yscore from your last DBA test? 23:49:28 yep. 23:49:31 think it was mid 80s 23:49:33 as for the redir, lemme get my notes. 23:50:16 what was your $$ layout for all the tests? 23:50:30 $125 per test (5) 23:50:44 so $625 23:51:00 all things considered, that's pretty reasonable. 23:51:03 plus about $80-100 per test for the selftestsoftware computerized tests 23:51:51 oof, 23:52:07 and then some for books 23:52:11 not exactly cheap 23:52:18 but much less than a single week of oracle training :-) 23:53:39 for the redir, can't you load 3 ns_registerprocs which call ns_retrunredirect on all urls? 23:54:03 or do you think there's a lower layer that can handle it? 23:54:57 I've seen some sites 3.X iwth a 'forceHostTo' setting 23:55:12 so I was wondering if that made it to opeancs land, or if it was a site-specific extension 23:55:41 kinda useful when you're doing cobrands. If someone specifies a cobrand that's not active, it'll redir them back to the main site name 23:57:04 yeah, that's useful. I haven't used that param, tho, just ns_registerprocs. 23:57:45 ok 23:58:11 thanks 23:58:19 too bad paje's not here, or I'd ++ ya :-) 23:59:57 ++? what's that?