00:00:03 so ... what does that mean? 00:00:05 it's slowly regaining the feature set from the 2.3 days 00:00:07 If you look on the AOLserver 4 tree, you'll see a nsvhr directory there 00:00:31 markd2, what was the disconnect between 2.3 and 3? 00:00:42 It means that the C api has all the hooks for virtual hosts. On the 3.x days it didn't. 00:00:47 aol ignored th community for 3? 00:01:17 The DC folks didn't like virtual hosting and the 'extra fetures' they didn't use 00:01:20 so they just cut 'em out 00:01:27 ah 00:02:13 rbm, sorry if i'm a little behind. but what you're saying is that in order to get virtual hosting to work, some extra work needs to be done? download nsvhr or something? 00:02:43 talli: No, in 4.0 it's already there. 00:02:52 ah, cool 00:03:10 so one just needs to configure the virtual host parameters to make it work? 00:03:52 yeah 00:03:59 nice 00:09:20 i was going to ask you if there is a readme or an far in the 4 download that included a list of the new features 00:19:30 someone over from activestate tcl has been working on it. 00:19:58 but not alot of changes sine last year in the changelog 00:23:11 Jeff Hobbs. He's very famous in the Tcl community. 00:24:22 cool. I think he is updated AOLserver 4 to work with the latest Tcl. 00:24:50 * davb has an idea for ETP 2.0 00:25:19 Jim Davidson outlined what you need to do to get AOLserver with the latest Tcl in a post this week. It's pretty simple. 00:25:23 index-templates with named sections, if you have a page with that name under it, it appears in that space in the template. 00:26:32 Jeff Hobbs is taking the (much smarter) memory allocator from AOLserver and putting it in mainstream Tcl 00:26:44 ah, the other direction. that is also very cool. 00:26:53 When that's done, than any Tcl (with the new mem allocator) will work with AOLserver. 00:27:19 well, bbl 00:27:19 I even had a better idea, that when the new ETP instance is created the named sections/pages are created with placeholder content... 00:29:59 the return of Lorum ipsum! 00:44:44 markdfoo (~Snak@r-41.21.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 00:47:00 markd2 has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: markdfoo!~Snak@r-41.21.alltel.net))) 00:47:04 markdfoo is now known as markd2 00:47:26 alltel? 00:47:26 alltel are a bunch of wankers 00:47:30 paje++, 00:57:34 nuke expert?? 00:57:40 are you crazy? 00:57:46 i got hacked! 00:57:47 :-) 01:07:12 docwolf, was your nuke install running apache virtual hosting? 01:07:18 ZING!!!! 01:21:18 CodeConnoiseur (~rolf@adsl-34-74-51.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #openacs 01:21:22 markd2 is now known as ^o-o^ 01:21:28 <^o-o^> ^o-o^ is now known as markd2 01:21:42 CodeConnoiseur is now known as Oo\\\D 01:21:46 wuzzup. 01:22:56 * davb wonders how often markd2 turns into a pair of glasses... 01:23:04 Oo\\\D is now known as rzolf 01:24:26 heh 01:24:32 you're not the Real Code Connoisseur! 01:25:28 talli: F-U! :-) 01:31:18 hi 01:31:18 hey, rzolf 01:32:17 guys. i wasn't aware kelly lebrock had put on so much weight. 01:32:31 uh oh. you try keeping up with steven segal 01:32:54 she moved back to kentucky. 01:33:11 what? she left sensei steve? 01:33:22 kelly lebrock? 01:33:53 are we returning to our childhoods? 01:34:47 my name is _chet_ 01:35:04 my favorite work of hers was the pantene commersial 01:35:06 cial. 01:35:09 cosmic 01:35:41 guys, only 14 more days until kelly lebrock's birthday. 01:35:49 what was your fave segal film? 01:35:58 or were you more of a van damme sort of man? 01:36:22 i've never seen a segal or van damme film in its entirety. 01:36:33 I CALL BULLSHIT 01:36:36 ? 01:36:41 you've never seen.... 01:36:44 universal soldier? 01:36:46 or maybe i have? 01:36:50 no i dont think i have. 01:36:50 bloodsport? 01:37:12 i've seen like 1/4 of some segal movie on cable. 01:37:14 that one where segal is an indian from alaska, and michael caine has too much makeup? 01:38:12 i'll have to say out of the two, even though i'm not really familiar with their work, i prefer van damme. 01:38:48 but mainly i'm more concerned with kelly lebrock. 01:38:53 i hope she's doing ok. 01:38:55 segal's films are more compeling, because you are constantly amazed that such a fat, greasy, talentless dude can get work 01:39:00 and get lebrock 01:39:01 She's a Survivor 01:39:49 fine. get me all excited 01:39:56 hold on 01:40:03 i have some recent photos of kelly lebrock. 01:40:20 oh no 01:40:22 please don't 01:40:44 jpeg! jpeg! 01:41:02 you should email the guy that runs retrocrush. 01:41:06 he can probably come up with some good photos 01:41:10 http://www.wcr.com/products/ 01:41:11 A: http://www.wcr.com/products/ from rzolf 01:41:15 oh no 01:41:52 christ 01:42:03 time is cruel. 01:42:15 i wonder if she's available. 01:42:27 http://us.imdb.com/Name?Seagal,+Steven 01:42:27 B: http://us.imdb.com/Name?Seagal,+Steven from docwolf 01:44:12 woot! 168 bytes a second! 01:44:25 oh my 01:44:30 damn. now Her picture has stalled 01:44:33 all I see is a hat now 01:44:40 phew, that was close... 01:44:53 you are really lucky your connection sucks. 01:45:27 anyone have any idea about where to get good refurbished macs? 01:45:36 compusa 01:45:45 really? 01:45:49 no. 01:46:01 but i got a display model for a good deal. 01:47:56 is steven segal still married to kelly lebrock? 01:48:07 guess not 01:48:13 but damn, they have three kids together 01:48:34 it's time to repurpose wolf bioscience. 01:48:44 we must commense telomerase research immediately. 01:48:48 " Arrissa, his youngest child with LeBrock, was named after the family nanny. Seagal then got involved romantically with the nanny who then became pregnant with his child." 01:48:51 because this aging shit is out of control. 01:51:33 http://www.etonline.com/celebrity/a9205.htm 01:51:33 C: http://www.etonline.com/celebrity/a9205.htm from docwolf 01:51:55 more proof that it's a man's world.... 01:53:23 C: It's a magical moment between two celebrities. - Bill Shatner 01:53:24 commented item C 01:53:59 whoa 01:54:03 http://williamshatner.com/ 01:54:03 D: http://williamshatner.com/ from docwolf 01:54:50 what the hell is this 01:55:38 that's it. 01:55:44 time for me to get my own crappy scifi show 01:55:44 rzolf is now known as CigarGeneral 01:55:56 At attention, cigar lieutenents! 01:56:01 lieutenants, I implore you. 01:56:19 * markd2 implodes 01:56:35 General, the pleasure police accosted me as I was enjoying my rich Opus Fuente Fuente IV last night at Pete's Steakhouse. 01:56:38 what should I have done? 01:58:22 I told him it was my god-given right as an american to savor the pleasures of a fine cameroon-skinned product, but he was clearly ignorant of our country's heritage. 01:58:43 so, i got thrown out. and i think a black crown vic followed me home. please help. 02:00:38 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 02:01:01 whoa. sorry, i was away polishing my monacle. 02:01:09 please help general 02:01:17 i see a helecopter now 02:01:28 i'm pretty sure it is the secret service 02:01:51 mmmm.... boca must be real nice this time of year 02:02:01 or whatever they're smoking down there 02:02:19 general, when are you going to update your HomePage on the interweb? 02:02:29 i keep look,in g for hot infoz but can't find any 02:02:33 http://www.smokethis.com/contact.html 02:02:33 E: http://www.smokethis.com/contact.html from docwolf 02:04:10 http://cigarfamily.com/Cigars/ff_opusx.htm 02:04:11 F: http://cigarfamily.com/Cigars/ff_opusx.htm from docwolf 02:04:23 heh 02:04:38 hm, my cigar general skills are no match for yours. i'm an impostor. 02:04:51 CigarGeneral is now known as toddfalcon 02:05:15 holy _crap_ 02:05:19 cigars cost $60 a piece? 02:05:32 this must be a typo 02:05:37 http://www.cigarwerks.com/cigars.ihtml?step=2&cat_id=6\ 02:05:37 G: http://www.cigarwerks.com/cigars.ihtml?step=2&cat_id=6\ from docwolf 02:05:50 http://www.cigarwerks.com/cigars.ihtml?step=3&prod_id=41 02:06:00 insane 02:08:17 http://www.smalldog.com 02:08:18 H: http://www.smalldog.com from talli 02:08:32 H: Small Dog - seems like a good place for mac stuff. 02:08:32 docwolf is now known as RicoTubbs 02:08:32 commented item H 02:08:37 RicoTubbs!!!! 02:08:58 anyone want a palm reading? 02:09:13 whoa. 02:09:14 tubbs. 02:09:17 * talli hears electronic bongos in the background as he closes his eyes and dreams of flying fast over the south florida waters 02:09:29 toddfalcon? isn't that a gay porn star? 02:09:35 www.toddfalcon.com 02:10:05 worse 02:10:08 a skater 02:10:27 RicoTubbs is now known as Ben_Schumin 02:10:41 whew. this fits me much better. 02:11:18 i wonder if Ben_Schumin can kick docwolf's ass 02:11:37 care to find out? (I'm ready for the pay-per-view if he is) 02:12:15 maybe after vanilla ice and todd bridges throw down 02:12:18 schuman would wear those tights like '70s pro wrestlers used to 02:12:25 with the straps 02:12:37 and docwolf would only wear a chin strap 02:12:56 he'd come bounding into the ring 02:12:58 with a camera 02:13:04 take a few pictures 02:13:13 talk about the hot dogs he ate on the way to the arena 02:13:28 ikea has 99 cent hot dogs. 02:13:40 and FroYo? 02:14:31 poor schumin. 02:14:49 schumin rocks. 02:15:02 he is living a life of quiet despiration on the web, and I bet none of his classmates realize it. 02:15:45 i prefer to live my life of quiet desperation on IRC, word gets around more quickly that way. 02:15:52 andyn has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:16:18 IRC is hard-core loserville though... unless you "come here for the porn" 02:16:43 it's like the difference between talking about wanting to commit suicide, and actually doing it. 02:17:01 how big is wolfbioscience worldwide HQ that its staff must converse electronically? 02:17:21 our operation is the size of several football fields. 02:17:31 also i dont really exist in real life. 02:18:10 toddfalcon, does Ben_Schumin make you listen to his mp3 collection? 02:18:25 btw, Ben_Schumin, have you specced the handspring treo? 02:18:55 Schuman has never seen a treo, though he does have a samsung I300 02:19:02 i just put one night in bankok and straight outta compton on repeat. 02:19:14 nice 02:20:17 i often put fear of a black planet on the 11 of my stereo and open up the windows of my loft to tell tribeca how it really is 02:20:45 still some quiver when i deliver 02:21:15 from lil kim 02:21:57 Ben_Schumin is now known as somatomedin 02:22:08 lil kim is saucy. 02:22:26 i think i'm going to go hang out with some goth sysadmins at a cyber cafe in the east village 02:22:53 ugh. 02:23:03 you think shatner's daughter is available? 02:23:16 http://williamshatner.com/lisabethspace/index.asp 02:23:16 I: http://williamshatner.com/lisabethspace/index.asp from somatomedin 02:25:17 HA HA HA HA SEE IF YOUR RADISH GOD CAN SAVE YOU NOW!!!! 02:25:50 hmm 02:25:53 is it possible 02:25:53 goth sysadmins ? i miss nyc... 02:26:02 that the wolflens software will not be taken seriously? 02:26:25 http://www02.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/tb3/kaka/gallery/teba/daikon.gif 02:26:25 J: http://www02.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/tb3/kaka/gallery/teba/daikon.gif from toddfalcon 02:26:56 I prefer praying to spaghetti squash, but that's just me. 02:28:34 i thought all sysadmins were goth. 02:29:05 cool! DocWolf sells used cars! 02:29:19 our prospects our good. 02:29:32 and it's all because harry carpenter took the time to work with us. 02:29:42 i'm reviewing my prospects now. 02:31:07 "Have you ever wanted to wear The Schumin Web on a t-shirt? Or perhaps have a mouse pad of it? Or a mug, perhaps? Check out the online store, recently repositioned for better visibility, complete with shopping cart for your convenience. 02:31:22 pure genius. 02:35:12 are there any packages similar to HTTPUnit that aren't in java. 02:35:31 there's something in python 02:35:51 what is it called. 02:36:00 pyunit? 02:36:09 oh. pyunit. 02:36:18 yeah that's not really what i'm looking for. 02:36:31 wait what does httpunit do, anyway. 02:38:21 what units is your http in anyway? 02:38:27 sweet there is some http thing built on top of pyunit. 02:38:37 sometimes it is just a unit. 02:45:46 hrmpf 02:46:02 your "unit" is open 02:47:00 toddfalcon is now known as rzolf 02:47:11 this unit testing framework sucks. 02:50:54 in javascript. 02:51:05 does it suck in java too? 02:51:10 dunno. 02:52:07 in javascript, if i have a function doing form validation that opens an alert box. 02:52:30 what do i need to do to make the form reset once i click on the alert box button. 02:52:41 be sure to valide the data on the server side too 02:52:56 haha. ARGH 02:53:06 somatomedin is now known as Bloated_Drunken_Mitchell 02:53:15 Mitchell!! 02:53:16 i hope that isn't the real answer 02:53:18 because if it is 02:53:30 nah - you can do that stuff in javascript land 02:53:54 here is what happens: if I don't have anything in my form 02:53:55 but you still need to verify the stuff on the server 02:54:17 javascript sucks. 02:54:58 why is my grandmother going to slovakia. 02:55:05 my world is caving in. 03:02:49 does openacs encrypt passwords? 03:03:50 yeah, I think so 03:04:29 ok. good. 03:04:36 i run a fairly large vbulletin community 03:04:39 (1000+ users) 03:04:46 and.. get this.. i just looked at the data model. 03:04:52 the passwords aren't encrypted. 03:04:59 this is possibly the stupidest thing i've seen today. 03:05:45 * markd2 avoids making a snide rzolf-related comment 03:07:37 i take it back; the stupidest thing i saw today was a quote from the CEO of microsoft about "good software" 03:08:43 iCodeGoodly 03:08:45 jkhong (~jkhong@202.151.216.95) has joined #openacs 03:12:28 jkhong has quit (Client Quit) 03:13:10 hibye 03:26:15 rzolf has quit ("BitchX: nine out of ten doctors recommend it") 03:29:41 anyone know of a good site where i can get a dropdown list of countries to put in a web form? 03:48:34 talilee (~root@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #openacs 03:49:16 hey rbm, what is the name of the debian package to install for ssh? 03:50:05 i'm sorry for always asking debian quesitons 03:50:14 i tried apt-cache search ssh and that wasn't much help 03:51:29 openssh? 03:51:35 no, that doesn't work 03:51:58 asking my friend in #wplug 03:52:01 he says openssh 03:52:04 cool, thanks 03:54:52 weird. ok 03:54:53 thaniks 04:09:21 markd2 has quit ("wheeeee") 04:13:59 talilee has left #openacs 04:30:00 Bloated_Drunken_Mitchell has quit ("What happens if i press this bu") 05:50:32 andyn (~andy@12-254-190-230.client.attbi.com) has joined #openacs 06:08:54 rafa (rafa@ebt.ee.usyd.edu.au) has joined #openacs 06:09:02 hello 06:17:03 anyone? 06:24:53 hi 06:24:53 hi, rbm 06:25:00 what's up paje? 06:32:26 hi rbm, paje 06:32:27 rafa: sorry... 06:33:00 I just downloaded the 4.5 from cvs and have the same problem with groups 06:33:44 could anyone follow the steps with me? It has a bug, but there must be a way around 06:35:38 andyn has quit ("leaving") 06:36:05 andyn (~andy@12-254-190-230.client.attbi.com) has joined #openacs 06:37:59 what problem? 06:38:10 have you asked about this 'problem' in the bboards? 06:38:51 rbm: yes I asked 2 weeks ago, no one answered. 06:39:13 andyn has quit (Remote closed the connection) 06:39:40 huh. weird. You're Rafael Cavo I presume? 06:39:57 yes 06:40:25 Hmmm, what's your e-mail address? 06:40:30 http://openacs.org/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000465&topic_id=OpenACS�%2e0%20Testing&topic=14 06:40:31 K: http://openacs.org/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000465&topic_id=OpenACS�%2e0%20Testing&topic=14 from rafa 06:40:48 is the post, my email is rafa@ee.usyd.edu.au 06:41:22 rcalvo@sinaptico.com on oacs.org 06:41:26 let me get to th pages yo're referring to 06:41:52 andyn (~andy@12-254-190-230.client.attbi.com) has joined #openacs 06:43:33 One reason for the lack of responses to your question might be that it is poorly formulated. I can't really understand what error you're getting or what wrong behavior you're seeing. 06:44:02 I know, I guess I was not careful (lack of sleep maybe) 06:44:06 You need to make it easier for people looking at your question to be able to respond it by giving them as much information as possible. 06:44:17 :-( 06:44:44 What's the URL you're seeing the problem at? What do the logs say? 06:45:03 s/URL/URI/ 06:45:59 admin/relations/add?exact%5fp=t&group%5fid=2442&allow%5fout%5fof%5fscope%5fp=f&return%5furl=%2fadmin%2fgroups%2fone%3fgroup%5fid%3d2442&rel_type=membership_rel 06:46:13 should give a list of usersto be added at a group 06:47:16 1. I create a group pp 06:47:44 2. go to its admin page -> add member 06:48:14 3, You get membership relation and user profile 06:48:53 The user already exists so you go to mem. relation 06:48:56 what's "pp"? 06:49:17 a name for a group, lets call it "intranet" 06:49:28 and you want to add members to group intranet 06:50:14 aftre going to mem. relation you should have a lits of existing persons 06:50:44 its not there so you choose: "select existing person" 06:50:55 nothing comes up. (First error) 06:51:41 the intranet person already exists as a member, so you don't want to go to "Add person" 06:51:45 I see. 06:51:49 you follow me? 06:52:04 I think so, but your question in the bboards said nothing of that sort. 06:52:12 :-( 06:52:48 the other option (User Profile) gives the error: 06:52:57 I think the link on that page is wrong. 06:53:14 which page? 06:53:26 admin/relations/add 06:53:52 no, otherwise I would get error "file-not-found" 06:54:09 I get a listing of users (as it is supoused to happen) 06:54:30 but when you choose the user and then submit it 06:54:38 you get the error I reported. 06:54:53 I know I a dumn ass.. nothing of the above was mentioned 06:56:20 I get "There is no other Person on this subsite that can be added as Member to admin" 06:57:22 do you have any other users? 06:57:50 I added a couple 06:58:03 I don't really know what's going on and it's too late for my brain to work right. 06:58:14 ok 06:58:29 I suggest you post to your own thread on openacs.org with all these details, URLs, log excerpts. 06:58:58 I am doing that as we speak 06:59:04 And that you come back to the channel when there are people around. It's quite late here in the U.S. (I realize that's bad for you in australia) 06:59:19 Coincidently, I had dinner with a couple of friends from Australia tonight. 06:59:36 from school? 06:59:41 yep 06:59:51 great country. The best I know 07:00:19 very nice people 07:00:36 from sydney? 07:01:17 Hmm, I don't really know which city they're from 07:01:54 what are you doing up so late? 07:01:59 homework 07:02:13 tough life :-) 07:02:33 yeah 07:02:36 * rbm goes to bed 07:02:37 'nite 07:03:12 dlk (dlk@walter.ita.chalmers.se) has joined #openacs 07:03:25 'nite 07:38:57 rafa has quit ("[x]chat") 13:26:31 davb (~dave@rrcs-nys-24-97-22-203.biz.rr.com) has joined #openacs 13:42:30 markd2 (~Snak@r-41.65.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 14:42:02 davb has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:50:07 markd2 has quit ("wheeeee") 15:05:56 markd2 (~Snak@r-41.65.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 15:35:45 dlk has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:44:08 davb (~dave@rrcs-nys-24-97-22-203.biz.rr.com) has joined #openacs 16:09:34 http://63.99.108.76/ubb/Forum8/HTML/004255.html 16:09:35 L: http://63.99.108.76/ubb/Forum8/HTML/004255.html from markd2 16:09:48 L:| French Intellectuals to be posted to Afghanistan 16:09:49 titled item L 16:10:12 L:Other tactics to demonstrate the non-existence of God will include the dropping of leaflets pointing out the fact that Michael Jackson has a new album out and Oprah Winfrey has not died yet. 16:10:13 commented item L 16:11:43 michael jackson is dropping leafs of acid with oprah winfrey???? 16:12:04 while wearing pants, too! 16:12:16 THE HORROR!!!! 16:12:42 SPOOOOON! 16:14:05 http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/03/08/1957252&mode=thread 16:14:06 M: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/03/08/1957252&mode=thread from talli 16:14:23 M: AOL moving to Linux on the server and Mozilla for the client 16:14:23 commented item M 16:16:32 hopefully this'll be an exuse to gut the windows client team 16:16:42 haha 16:16:46 were those guys jerks? 16:16:46 shazam! 16:17:03 yeah 16:17:08 thought they were gods, coded like donkeys 16:17:17 talli: Was just looking at the dotgnu pages 16:17:19 plus it's a *huge* team, built by a brown-nosing politico 16:17:21 hmmm... donkeys 16:17:45 rbm: dotgnu seems pretty cool, at least portable.net 16:18:01 OACS might want to think abotu getting involved in dotgnu too 16:18:13