IRC log of openacs on 2002-03-09

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00:01:50 [markd2]
just older
00:02:10 [markd2]
by the time I was on my first acs 4tcl gig, the tcl team had been gutted and Java uber-alles
00:03:36 [rbm]
moo
00:09:15 [markd2]
and a good moo to you too
00:10:44 [rbm]
* rbm ponders writing an elevator clone in pygame
00:11:33 [rbm]
how goes it markd2
00:11:34 [markd2]
that would rule
00:11:38 [markd2]
goes good
00:11:52 [rbm]
Pygame (and SDL) are so nice
00:11:53 [markd2]
installing the latest mac devtools
00:11:59 [markd2]
hope they don't screw up my system
00:12:55 [rbm]
On OSx?
00:12:58 [rbm]
s/x/X/
00:13:11 [markd2]
yep
00:13:12 [rbm]
<-- would love to have an OSX machine to play with
00:13:24 [rbm]
and I wish OSX would run on x86
00:13:25 [markd2]
iz veddy nice :-)
00:15:55 [rbm]
http://r-eality.dyndns.org/~R-ealitY/interessantes/cooling.jpg <-- What we all will need to do if CPUs keep going in the cooling power growth
00:15:55 [chump]
A: http://r-eality.dyndns.org/~R-ealitY/interessantes/cooling.jpg from rbm
00:16:12 [rbm]
A:|What we all will need to do if CPUs keep going in the cooling power growth
00:16:12 [chump]
titled item A
00:16:58 [markd2]
heh
00:17:13 [markd2]
probably helps to cool off the player
00:17:34 [rbm]
So you're doing this Mac devel stuff for fun or profit?
00:17:52 [rbm]
Or both? :)
00:23:40 [rbm]
* rbm goes to cook something to eat
00:24:00 [markd2]
for fun right now
00:24:05 [markd2]
hopefilly it'll lead to profit
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01:53:40 [davb]
argh. i can't get debian to install graphviz
01:54:05 [davb]
" Package graphviz has no installation candidate" even though it is supposed to be available...
01:55:29 [markd2]
bummer
01:55:43 [davb]
manly because I am not an apt guru
01:55:52 [davb]
s/manly/mainly
01:56:25 [davb]
ok. it works from the other machine...
01:58:19 [davb]
tada. my souces.list was missing something. I thought I fixed it, but I edited the wrong line :)
02:01:54 [markd2]
yay
02:03:43 [davb]
now I have to figure out how to define a news submission workflow
02:09:22 [talli]
whoa, davb, that would be awesome
02:09:40 [talli]
are you thinking about building an ETP2 app using workflow?
02:09:43 [talli]
with news?
02:11:29 [markd2]
and pants?
02:11:54 [talli]
and sequins?
02:14:43 [markd2]
and penguins!
02:15:00 [talli]
and jelly beans!
02:15:05 [markd2]
woot!
02:15:08 [markd2]
* markd2 dances and celebrates
02:15:27 [talli]
* talli dances with his tallibot
02:15:48 [talli]
and it's a salsa
02:17:19 [talli]
are there many other channels on irc that have such a high human to bot ratio?
02:17:30 [talli]
is there a channel JUST for bots?
02:18:08 [talli]
where they can talk about the trials an tribulations of being a bot in today's america?
02:19:10 [markd2]
just ask the president
02:20:09 [talli]
you mean howard farkinficklerstein, the president of the largest tile retail chain in america, tiles-n-goodies?
02:22:29 [markd2]
heh
02:22:33 [markd2]
that dude that runs k-mart
02:22:42 [talli]
no!
02:22:45 [talli]
he does?
02:22:49 [markd2]
that RUINS k-mart
02:22:53 [markd2]
* markd2 weeps for k-mart
02:23:05 [talli]
at least we still have walmart
02:23:15 [talli]
for ALL of our needs
02:24:48 [markd2]
walmart is too upscale
02:25:00 [markd2]
we need trashy kmarts to remind us of the American Experience
02:25:19 [talli]
dunno. walmart started in arkansas
02:25:35 [davb]
we have Ames...
02:25:44 [talli]
is it possible to get trashy than an arkansas super-store chain?
02:25:48 [markd2]
the ames around here is closing, I think
02:25:50 [markd2]
oh yeah
02:25:55 [markd2]
some texas super-store chain
02:26:08 [davb]
talli: yes. I think News would be good becuase I can have users submission and then have it approved by an admin.
02:28:09 [talli]
yeah, well that's what is needed for the new oacs.org
02:30:08 [davb]
right. exactly. I will see what I can do :)
02:30:40 [davb]
I have to build the permission switching stuff into the special procs that workflow calls. so it will be a fun learning experience.
02:30:41 [davb]
:)
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06:49:07 [jim]
talli: #debian-bots
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17:49:42 [rbm]
morning
17:51:02 [jim]
hi
17:51:17 [markd2]
hello
17:51:24 [jim]
I have a weird problem with the bsd openacs install I been doing...
17:52:05 [jim]
I got it to the point where I can do restart-aolserver
17:52:39 [jim]
I do so, it seems to come up, is accessable to localhost, but not outside localhost
17:53:31 [til]
hi
17:54:22 [til]
jim: other stuff on that machine can be reached from outside? like ping, other webservers etc.
17:54:33 [jim]
til: yes
17:54:55 [jim]
I'm sshing into it now
17:55:00 [til]
and what exactly happens when you try to access aolserver?
17:55:21 [jim]
hmm, it doesn't even seem to be up now
17:55:46 [til]
ps aux|grep nsd ...
17:56:23 [til]
oh it's bsd, sorry ... no idea if that was correct then
17:57:08 [jim]
it looks (from other things) like it might not be up
17:58:22 [jim]
it'
17:59:17 [jim]
there exists an aolserver in ps
18:00:10 [til]
isnt the process called nsd in bsd too?
18:00:32 [jim]
yes, nsd (which is nsd8x, I guess)
18:00:58 [til]
wether nsd8x or 7 depends on the symbolic link in aolserver/bin
18:03:27 [til]
can you stop and start it?
18:09:35 [jim]
one sec
18:09:56 [jim]
I'm not sure how to do it with daemontools (which I think might be the problem)
18:10:41 [til]
sorry, cant help with that
18:13:54 [jim]
ok, np... let me see if I can get the thing back
18:39:34 [jim]
ok, the thing's back up, and same thing...
18:40:43 [jim]
I can access it from the box it's on, but from nowhere else (I get timeouts from everything outside of the local net, and connection refused from inside)
18:43:16 [til]
did you try accessing it by ip-address instead of hostname?
18:43:24 [jim]
no, will do
18:44:21 [jim]
immediate connection refused from outside
18:44:51 [jim]
lemme see if it's still responding on its own box
18:45:08 [jim]
yep
18:45:49 [til]
weird
18:45:54 [rbm]
argh. 6 deg F here.
18:45:58 [markd2]
brrr!
18:46:04 [rbm]
And I thought winter was over.
18:46:07 [markd2]
we're set to drop 40 degrees F by this time tomorrow
18:46:18 [rbm]
"drop" to 40 degrees!!?!?
18:46:22 [markd2]
yep
18:46:28 [rbm]
markd2: You suck!
18:46:37 [markd2]
drop "by"
18:46:41 [markd2]
sorry
18:46:45 [rbm]
:-)
18:46:48 [jim]
drop -to- 40 degrees?? or drop 40 degrees?
18:46:54 [markd2]
drop *by*
18:47:03 [jim]
what's the temp now?
18:47:15 [markd2]
60s
18:47:22 [markd2]
supposed to be 20 by tomorrow
18:47:35 [jim]
where are you again? :)
18:47:41 [markd2]
Western Pennsylvania
18:47:43 [markd2]
near Pittsburgh
18:47:45 [jim]
ahh
18:48:07 [rbm]
If I had money I'd go skiing. The day is beautiful for skii.ng
19:09:27 [markd2]
35371 / 1024
19:09:27 [paje]
34.5419921875
19:09:40 [markd2]
9964 / 1024
19:09:41 [paje]
9.73046875
19:09:51 [talli]
2/0
19:09:53 [markd2]
1229640 / 1024
19:09:53 [paje]
1200.8203125
19:10:16 [talli]
markd2 / rbm
19:14:32 [markd2]
oacs should come up with their own version control software
19:14:35 [markd2]
to compete with subVersion
19:14:38 [markd2]
call it 'perVersion'
19:15:30 [talli]
or our own blogging system
19:15:34 [talli]
called flogging
19:16:31 [talli]
i think the reason so many blogging type people link to other bloggers is in order to validate their own lower form of life
19:18:52 [markd2]
yep
19:19:02 [markd2]
and it keep us (er, them) from having to do anything original
19:24:43 [rbm]
what's a blog?
19:25:52 [talli]
a blog is the the indentation left by your butt on your seat after you've been reading too many people's online journals
19:27:22 [markd2]
heh
19:27:28 [markd2]
so how do you really feel?
19:27:50 [talli]
like a ladybug on a spring morning
19:37:58 [hazmat]
* hazmat gets some bug spray
19:38:11 [talli]
ouch
19:44:14 [rbm]
lac
19:57:43 [markd2]
yow
19:58:00 [markd2]
paje, yow
19:58:00 [paje]
I know things about TROY DONAHUE that can't even be PRINTED!!
19:58:53 [talli]
paje, that's never stopped me
19:58:53 [paje]
talli: huh?
19:59:02 [talli]
huh yourself
20:08:03 [markd2]
huh
20:09:28 [hazmat]
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20:09:33 [markd2]
heh
20:42:53 [markd2]
60 / 1.5
20:42:54 [paje]
40
20:43:11 [markd2]
40 * 60
20:43:24 [markd2]
2400
21:13:55 [shagster]
Burp
21:25:18 [jim]
I think I found my problem from before... it seems several dns servers are reporting different things...
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23:32:05 [talli]
anybody home this eve?
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