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16:17:06 <davb> http://www.foveon.net/X3_better.html
16:17:06 <chump> A: http://www.foveon.net/X3_better.html from davb
16:17:14 <davb> A:|Foveon X3 Technology
16:17:14 <chump> titled item A
16:17:24 <davb> A: looks like the future of digital cameras
16:17:24 <chump> commented item A
16:23:15 <talilee> how's it going davb?
16:24:16 <davb> good.
16:25:37 <davb> The graphics design part of this project is really time-consuming so I haven't done too much coding. Right now I just pretty much have to edit the templates to look right and my application is working. ETP is great :)
16:27:02 <talilee> very cool!
16:27:37 <talilee> have you pinged jun yamog and luke about your work? i know both of them have been discussing ETP, it's weaknesses and strengths, pretty in depth
16:27:50 <talilee> i'm sure they would be excited to hear your work as well
16:28:52 <davb> I did a little. I'll have to talk to them, but for now I am cranking out a demo, hopefully I will have time to incorporate improvements after this :)
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16:40:19 <talilee> hey denshi
16:40:27 <denshi> yo
16:40:44 <davb> hi denshi
16:42:51 <denshi> did anyone code anything this weekend?
16:43:03 <talilee> i made some ACSII pr0n
16:43:08 <talilee> that count?
16:43:21 <denshi> perhaps.
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16:43:31 <talilee> hey k2pts
16:43:34 <k2pts> hey talli
16:43:37 <denshi> hey k2
16:43:42 <k2pts> hey denshi
16:43:45 <davb> nope all visual design for me
16:43:50 <davb> hi k2pts
16:43:50 <k2pts> hi dave
16:44:00 <denshi> so is that 'k2pants', or what?
16:44:07 <k2pts> talilee: why didn't you change talli?
16:44:12 <k2pts> denshi: no, long story
16:44:33 <markd2> k2pants, k2spigot, k2deuce...
16:44:34 <k2pts> s/didn't/did
16:44:40 <k2pts> :)
16:45:09 <k2pts> I have to improve my English a lot to explain what k2pts means
16:45:17 <k2pts> emphasize "a lot"
16:45:32 <talilee> change my nick?
16:45:46 <k2pts> yeah, why. the other one was easier to write :)
16:45:49 <talilee> how do i change my nick?
16:46:01 <markd2> "/nick newnick"
16:46:04 <talilee> try using tab to autocomplete the names
16:46:07 <k2pts> no, why did you change it from "talli" to "talilee"
16:46:09 <denshi> mark!
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16:46:14 <newnick> haha
16:46:17 <newnick> newnick is now known as talli
16:46:17 <markd2> bingo!
16:46:48 <k2pts> tab does not autocomplete in xchat or am I missing something?
16:47:08 <davb> probably turned off. ot try t:
16:47:11 <davb> t: hi
16:47:20 <talli> weird. it's been pretty standard in every IRC client i've used
16:47:21 <davb> oops, i am not using xchat
16:47:22 <k2pts> sounds good to me :)
16:47:32 <talli> you think k2pts is easy to write?
16:47:33 <talli> :)
16:47:57 <k2pts> I used "nkd" but someone kicked me off. he had it registered...anyway I like k2pts more
16:49:06 <denshi> Todd G.
16:49:08 <talli> Eric Mangernickky Buttpicker
16:49:08 <denshi> bbl
16:49:12 <k2pts> :)
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16:49:46 <k2pts> so anyone keeping bets for the poll :)
16:51:25 <markd2> * markd2 votes early, votes often
16:51:46 <k2pts> * k2pts hopes markd2 votes for no name change :)
16:52:07 <talli> * talli hopes markd2 votes OACS (oaks)
16:52:35 <markd2> I added a write-in for "Vinod's PERFORMER Toolkit, by Vinod"
16:52:52 <talli> * talli hopes also that k2pts stops trying to rig the elections (markd2 two ladies of the night have been reserved for you and your vote)
16:53:50 <talli> markd2, i think vinod's got that name saved for his, uhm, "surgical" product, if you know what i mean
16:56:13 <k2pts> talli: I have had secret negotiations with the community members to vote for NO NAME CHANGE :)
16:56:25 <talli> no hablo SQL
16:56:27 <k2pts> scanning the openacs.org/directory/browse
16:57:27 <davb> only 130 votes out of 3300 members...
16:57:33 <davb> plenty of room for ballot stuffing
16:57:45 <k2pts> yeah it would be a good thing for the community if more voted
16:58:16 <talli> it would be a good thing if the community let the suits make the decision on the name. and the programming language.
16:58:46 <talli> also, all you geeks should cut your hair and take a shower. you're making me look bad
16:58:53 <k2pts> :)
16:59:09 <k2pts> talli: make me an offer for my vote :)
16:59:31 <talli> ok, how about an all expense paid swift kick in the butt?
16:59:44 <k2pts> no, that won't do
16:59:58 <k2pts> * k2pts heads to crash www.museatech.net
17:01:43 <k2pts> * k2pts send private note to talli
17:02:18 <k2pts> talli: are you there?
17:02:30 <talli> i'll send you a privote note with a knuckle sandwiche, that's what i'll do!
17:02:45 <k2pts> * k2pts checks knuckle in the dictionary
17:04:14 <k2pts> knuckle=the joint of a finger, especially he joint where the base of a finger meets the hand :)
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17:09:52 <k2pts> hey docwolf
17:10:19 <docwolf> howdy
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18:56:25 <davb> http://www.google.com/appliance/
18:56:25 <chump> B: http://www.google.com/appliance/ from davb
18:56:33 <davb> B:|Google Appliance
18:56:34 <chump> titled item B
18:56:40 <davb> B: Google for you LAN
18:56:40 <chump> commented item B
18:57:54 <davb> B: apparently it will crawl your intranet via HTTP and index everything
18:57:55 <chump> commented item B
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19:57:11 <davb> hi vimod!
19:57:19 <vinod> hey davb!
19:57:24 <davb> oops :)
19:57:52 <vinod> np - i answer to a lot of names now :-)
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20:04:39 <denshi> mark!
20:07:15 <denshi> so I didn't see the 'vote often' option button in the rename poll.  so sad.
20:26:35 <markd2> I wrote the original poll package.  I have my ways :-)
20:31:52 <denshi> dang it.  so what would 10 votes cost me?
20:32:20 <talli> denshi, what are you voting in favor of?
20:32:34 <denshi> OACS, pronounced "oaks"
20:32:41 <talli> good man
20:32:44 <vinod> * vinod too
20:32:48 <talli> markd2, please give the man 10 votes
20:33:03 <talli> i never thought i would say this, but vinod, you're a good man too
20:33:30 <vinod> i'm sorry - didn't hear that quite right, could you repeat it?
20:33:41 <denshi> there's really no contest; since the 'change name' option doesn't even give options, just opens the floor to that debate.
20:34:22 <talli> vinod: i said that you were a smelled like a food pan
20:34:28 <talli> and an old one at that
20:35:42 <vinod> smelled like a food pan?
20:35:53 <vinod> that's almost a complement in a geek's eyes
20:36:12 <vinod> 2 compliments in 1 day from talli - wow!
20:36:18 <talli> perhaps a bed pan is more appropriate?
20:36:24 <markd2> * markd2 looks out for the remaining 5 signs of the apocolypse
20:36:56 <vinod> now that's the talli i know
20:37:50 <davb> Wow! I created two regexps in the last 7 days that both worked!
20:38:22 <vinod> davb: don't admit stuff like that. you'll have to answer all my regexp questions now!
20:38:28 <denshi> davb: was there anything particularly difficult about these regexps?
20:38:58 <davb> for who? someone who knows what they are doing? no. for me :) yes
20:39:30 <davb> all those puncuation marks squished together give me a headache
20:39:33 <davb> :)
20:45:32 <denshi> I assume you are using tcl?
20:45:55 <davb> yes
20:46:09 <davb> I found a nifty program for testing them out though.
20:46:23 <vinod> really?
20:46:28 <denshi> since the recent nsd8.x tcls just swiped the perl regexp code, do they support the multi-line tcl.
20:46:53 <davb> vinod: yeah, hang on...
20:47:52 <davb> http://laurent.riesterer.free.fr/regexp/
20:47:52 <chump> C: http://laurent.riesterer.free.fr/regexp/ from davb
20:47:56 <davb> C:|Visual Regexp
20:47:56 <chump> titled item C
20:48:39 <markd2> sweet
20:48:41 <vinod> cool - thanks!
20:49:43 <davb> it is neat. it highlights which parts of the regexp match which parts of your sample string
20:50:12 <davb> http://regexplorer.sourceforge.net/
20:50:12 <chump> D: http://regexplorer.sourceforge.net/ from davb
20:50:17 <davb> D:|RegExplorer
20:50:17 <chump> titled item D
20:50:59 <vinod> cool, there's a debian package - visual-regexp
20:54:57 <davb> nifty
20:55:51 <davb> I didn't even think of that!
20:56:20 <vinod> :-) that's the first thing i always check
20:57:08 <davb> usually I find that if I can't find a package, I am looking for the wrong thing. there are very few things you could want that are not available.
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20:59:53 <k2pts> I was reading the chatlogs and I couldn't help but come and defend "OpenACS" :)
21:00:35 <davb> http://www.cs.umd.edu/users/hendler/2002/musicbrainz.pdf
21:00:35 <chump> E: http://www.cs.umd.edu/users/hendler/2002/musicbrainz.pdf from davb
21:00:47 <vinod> hi k2pts!
21:00:51 <k2pts> hey vinod
21:00:55 <k2pts> don't listen to Talli
21:01:03 <davb> E:|MusicBrains: A Semantic Web Service
21:01:03 <chump> titled item E
21:01:08 <davb> E: by AaronSw
21:01:08 <chump> commented item E
21:01:11 <vinod> haha
21:01:17 <vinod> i never listen to talli 
21:01:34 <k2pts> yes but you agree on the "OpenACS" naming :)
21:01:55 <vinod> uhhh... mmm.. i think someone's calling me
21:02:20 <k2pts> I spent the day watching that poll..."no name change" is loosing ground to oaks...
21:02:47 <vinod> actually, i'm not religious one way or the other, i just like the shorter "oacs" - especially since i've been writing docs ;-)
21:02:50 <talli> hahah!!! we will win yet!
21:03:05 <k2pts> it seems that we are both gonna lose
21:03:18 <talli> i think there will be a run off
21:03:24 <k2pts> Open Architecture Community System (aka OpenACS) is way ahead
21:03:37 <talli> only in parliamentary democracies is 38% of the vote enough to win
21:03:48 <markd2> or in Florida
21:04:13 <talli> no, in florida the fewer votes you get, the more popular you are
21:04:21 <k2pts> where would you give your vote if we had "Open Architecture Community System" vs "Open ArsDigita Community System" (OpenACS both)
21:04:34 <talli> architecture
21:05:02 <talli> arsdigita is dead. long live ... uh ... long live... markd2, help me out here
21:05:11 <k2pts> that's why we should never let talli have an admin account on the new web site :) (Luke I hope you are reading the chatlogs)
21:05:37 <talli> in florida, everything goes
21:05:51 <vinod> yeah, look at docwolf and rzolf
21:05:57 <talli> like two aD rejects living together making a "website" and drinking "diet coke"
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21:06:13 <markd2> and driving in a "miata"
21:06:35 <k2pts> have you checked fc lately. there's war out there
21:06:36 <talli> ugh. "miata" shiver
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21:07:09 <vinod> i thought you needed 2 X chromosomes to purchase a miata
21:07:35 <talli> well, rolf has one, and so does docwolf...
21:07:42 <talli> so together, that's 2, right?
21:07:45 <vinod> ahhh - that explains it
21:08:34 <talli> i wonder if they tie scarves around their head when they go for drives, like thelma and louise did. 
21:08:45 <vinod> lol
21:09:19 <davb> I can't believe how much this coversation devolved while I rebooted...
21:10:04 <k2pts> dave what did you vote?
21:10:23 <denshi> hey, k2pts, what's your name out in The Big Room?
21:10:39 <davb> k2pts: architecture I think.. I forget :)
21:10:59 <k2pts> talli was complaining that I was riging the elections.
21:11:13 <k2pts> I log off for a while and look what he does...
21:11:53 <denshi> yup.  'The Big Room', you know, with the blue ceiling.
21:12:10 <k2pts> * k2pts english get worst day by day
21:13:17 <vinod> pretty soon, it'll be as bad as talli's
21:13:27 <k2pts> :)
21:14:08 <k2pts> I'm keeping talli busy in private until I have a few hate posts here. So come on please shows your anger ...
21:14:17 <k2pts> s/show/show us
21:14:39 <talli> k2pts, i will not send you naked pictures of vinod!
21:14:44 <talli> oh, wait, sorry. wrong window
21:15:02 <k2pts> :)
21:15:11 <k2pts> vinod: do you believe this guy...
21:15:17 <vinod> btw, i want those back someday talli
21:15:30 <k2pts> you can't turn your back to him
21:15:43 <talli> sorry, but i don't remember all the street lamps i posted them on.
21:15:54 <talli> and central park is REALLY big
21:15:55 <vinod> **definitely** don't turn your back to him
21:16:29 <k2pts> * k2pts likes vinod
21:16:53 <talli> careful, k2pts. vinod doesn't understand the difference between 
21:17:05 <talli> "like" and "wanna rumba"
21:17:19 <k2pts> * k2pts points out that his english are not that good, so vinod be aware :)
21:17:24 <vinod> haha
21:21:08 <davb> bye for now
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23:18:40 <denshi> has anyone else played with TOra?
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23:23:52 <denshi> hi jabba
23:24:48 <denshi> jabba, are you from austin?
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