IRC log of openacs on 2002-02-11

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Shatner probably ate a lot of pizzas too
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markd2 has changed the topic to: OpenACS: Free Web Application Toolkit | http://openacs.org | Sense of humor (and/or beer) mandatory. No teletubbies please.
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16:17:06 [davb]
http://www.foveon.net/X3_better.html
16:17:06 [chump]
A: http://www.foveon.net/X3_better.html from davb
16:17:14 [davb]
A:|Foveon X3 Technology
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titled item A
16:17:24 [davb]
A: looks like the future of digital cameras
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commented item A
16:23:15 [talilee]
how's it going davb?
16:24:16 [davb]
good.
16:25:37 [davb]
The graphics design part of this project is really time-consuming so I haven't done too much coding. Right now I just pretty much have to edit the templates to look right and my application is working. ETP is great :)
16:27:02 [talilee]
very cool!
16:27:37 [talilee]
have you pinged jun yamog and luke about your work? i know both of them have been discussing ETP, it's weaknesses and strengths, pretty in depth
16:27:50 [talilee]
i'm sure they would be excited to hear your work as well
16:28:52 [davb]
I did a little. I'll have to talk to them, but for now I am cranking out a demo, hopefully I will have time to incorporate improvements after this :)
16:40:09 [denshi]
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16:40:19 [talilee]
hey denshi
16:40:27 [denshi]
yo
16:40:44 [davb]
hi denshi
16:42:51 [denshi]
did anyone code anything this weekend?
16:43:03 [talilee]
i made some ACSII pr0n
16:43:08 [talilee]
that count?
16:43:21 [denshi]
perhaps.
16:43:26 [k2pts]
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16:43:31 [talilee]
hey k2pts
16:43:34 [k2pts]
hey talli
16:43:37 [denshi]
hey k2
16:43:42 [k2pts]
hey denshi
16:43:45 [davb]
nope all visual design for me
16:43:50 [davb]
hi k2pts
16:43:50 [k2pts]
hi dave
16:44:00 [denshi]
so is that 'k2pants', or what?
16:44:07 [k2pts]
talilee: why didn't you change talli?
16:44:12 [k2pts]
denshi: no, long story
16:44:33 [markd2]
k2pants, k2spigot, k2deuce...
16:44:34 [k2pts]
s/didn't/did
16:44:40 [k2pts]
:)
16:45:09 [k2pts]
I have to improve my English a lot to explain what k2pts means
16:45:17 [k2pts]
emphasize "a lot"
16:45:32 [talilee]
change my nick?
16:45:46 [k2pts]
yeah, why. the other one was easier to write :)
16:45:49 [talilee]
how do i change my nick?
16:46:01 [markd2]
"/nick newnick"
16:46:04 [talilee]
try using tab to autocomplete the names
16:46:07 [k2pts]
no, why did you change it from "talli" to "talilee"
16:46:09 [denshi]
mark!
16:46:11 [talilee]
talilee is now known as newnick
16:46:14 [newnick]
haha
16:46:17 [newnick]
newnick is now known as talli
16:46:17 [markd2]
bingo!
16:46:48 [k2pts]
tab does not autocomplete in xchat or am I missing something?
16:47:08 [davb]
probably turned off. ot try t:
16:47:11 [davb]
t: hi
16:47:20 [talli]
weird. it's been pretty standard in every IRC client i've used
16:47:21 [davb]
oops, i am not using xchat
16:47:22 [k2pts]
sounds good to me :)
16:47:32 [talli]
you think k2pts is easy to write?
16:47:33 [talli]
:)
16:47:57 [k2pts]
I used "nkd" but someone kicked me off. he had it registered...anyway I like k2pts more
16:49:06 [denshi]
Todd G.
16:49:08 [talli]
Eric Mangernickky Buttpicker
16:49:08 [denshi]
bbl
16:49:12 [k2pts]
:)
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16:49:46 [k2pts]
so anyone keeping bets for the poll :)
16:51:25 [markd2]
* markd2 votes early, votes often
16:51:46 [k2pts]
* k2pts hopes markd2 votes for no name change :)
16:52:07 [talli]
* talli hopes markd2 votes OACS (oaks)
16:52:35 [markd2]
I added a write-in for "Vinod's PERFORMER Toolkit, by Vinod"
16:52:52 [talli]
* talli hopes also that k2pts stops trying to rig the elections (markd2 two ladies of the night have been reserved for you and your vote)
16:53:50 [talli]
markd2, i think vinod's got that name saved for his, uhm, "surgical" product, if you know what i mean
16:56:13 [k2pts]
talli: I have had secret negotiations with the community members to vote for NO NAME CHANGE :)
16:56:25 [talli]
no hablo SQL
16:56:27 [k2pts]
scanning the openacs.org/directory/browse
16:57:27 [davb]
only 130 votes out of 3300 members...
16:57:33 [davb]
plenty of room for ballot stuffing
16:57:45 [k2pts]
yeah it would be a good thing for the community if more voted
16:58:16 [talli]
it would be a good thing if the community let the suits make the decision on the name. and the programming language.
16:58:46 [talli]
also, all you geeks should cut your hair and take a shower. you're making me look bad
16:58:53 [k2pts]
:)
16:59:09 [k2pts]
talli: make me an offer for my vote :)
16:59:31 [talli]
ok, how about an all expense paid swift kick in the butt?
16:59:44 [k2pts]
no, that won't do
16:59:58 [k2pts]
* k2pts heads to crash www.museatech.net
17:01:43 [k2pts]
* k2pts send private note to talli
17:02:18 [k2pts]
talli: are you there?
17:02:30 [talli]
i'll send you a privote note with a knuckle sandwiche, that's what i'll do!
17:02:45 [k2pts]
* k2pts checks knuckle in the dictionary
17:04:14 [k2pts]
knuckle=the joint of a finger, especially he joint where the base of a finger meets the hand :)
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17:09:52 [k2pts]
hey docwolf
17:10:19 [docwolf]
howdy
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18:56:25 [davb]
http://www.google.com/appliance/
18:56:25 [chump]
B: http://www.google.com/appliance/ from davb
18:56:33 [davb]
B:|Google Appliance
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titled item B
18:56:40 [davb]
B: Google for you LAN
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commented item B
18:57:54 [davb]
B: apparently it will crawl your intranet via HTTP and index everything
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commented item B
19:56:58 [vinod]
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19:57:11 [davb]
hi vimod!
19:57:19 [vinod]
hey davb!
19:57:24 [davb]
oops :)
19:57:52 [vinod]
np - i answer to a lot of names now :-)
20:02:23 [denshi]
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20:04:39 [denshi]
mark!
20:07:15 [denshi]
so I didn't see the 'vote often' option button in the rename poll. so sad.
20:26:35 [markd2]
I wrote the original poll package. I have my ways :-)
20:31:52 [denshi]
dang it. so what would 10 votes cost me?
20:32:20 [talli]
denshi, what are you voting in favor of?
20:32:34 [denshi]
OACS, pronounced "oaks"
20:32:41 [talli]
good man
20:32:44 [vinod]
* vinod too
20:32:48 [talli]
markd2, please give the man 10 votes
20:33:03 [talli]
i never thought i would say this, but vinod, you're a good man too
20:33:30 [vinod]
i'm sorry - didn't hear that quite right, could you repeat it?
20:33:41 [denshi]
there's really no contest; since the 'change name' option doesn't even give options, just opens the floor to that debate.
20:34:22 [talli]
vinod: i said that you were a smelled like a food pan
20:34:28 [talli]
and an old one at that
20:35:42 [vinod]
smelled like a food pan?
20:35:53 [vinod]
that's almost a complement in a geek's eyes
20:36:12 [vinod]
2 compliments in 1 day from talli - wow!
20:36:18 [talli]
perhaps a bed pan is more appropriate?
20:36:24 [markd2]
* markd2 looks out for the remaining 5 signs of the apocolypse
20:36:56 [vinod]
now that's the talli i know
20:37:50 [davb]
Wow! I created two regexps in the last 7 days that both worked!
20:38:22 [vinod]
davb: don't admit stuff like that. you'll have to answer all my regexp questions now!
20:38:28 [denshi]
davb: was there anything particularly difficult about these regexps?
20:38:58 [davb]
for who? someone who knows what they are doing? no. for me :) yes
20:39:30 [davb]
all those puncuation marks squished together give me a headache
20:39:33 [davb]
:)
20:45:32 [denshi]
I assume you are using tcl?
20:45:55 [davb]
yes
20:46:09 [davb]
I found a nifty program for testing them out though.
20:46:23 [vinod]
really?
20:46:28 [denshi]
since the recent nsd8.x tcls just swiped the perl regexp code, do they support the multi-line tcl.
20:46:53 [davb]
vinod: yeah, hang on...
20:47:52 [davb]
http://laurent.riesterer.free.fr/regexp/
20:47:52 [chump]
C: http://laurent.riesterer.free.fr/regexp/ from davb
20:47:56 [davb]
C:|Visual Regexp
20:47:56 [chump]
titled item C
20:48:39 [markd2]
sweet
20:48:41 [vinod]
cool - thanks!
20:49:43 [davb]
it is neat. it highlights which parts of the regexp match which parts of your sample string
20:50:12 [davb]
http://regexplorer.sourceforge.net/
20:50:12 [chump]
D: http://regexplorer.sourceforge.net/ from davb
20:50:17 [davb]
D:|RegExplorer
20:50:17 [chump]
titled item D
20:50:59 [vinod]
cool, there's a debian package - visual-regexp
20:54:57 [davb]
nifty
20:55:51 [davb]
I didn't even think of that!
20:56:20 [vinod]
:-) that's the first thing i always check
20:57:08 [davb]
usually I find that if I can't find a package, I am looking for the wrong thing. there are very few things you could want that are not available.
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20:59:53 [k2pts]
I was reading the chatlogs and I couldn't help but come and defend "OpenACS" :)
21:00:35 [davb]
http://www.cs.umd.edu/users/hendler/2002/musicbrainz.pdf
21:00:35 [chump]
E: http://www.cs.umd.edu/users/hendler/2002/musicbrainz.pdf from davb
21:00:47 [vinod]
hi k2pts!
21:00:51 [k2pts]
hey vinod
21:00:55 [k2pts]
don't listen to Talli
21:01:03 [davb]
E:|MusicBrains: A Semantic Web Service
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titled item E
21:01:08 [davb]
E: by AaronSw
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commented item E
21:01:11 [vinod]
haha
21:01:17 [vinod]
i never listen to talli
21:01:34 [k2pts]
yes but you agree on the "OpenACS" naming :)
21:01:55 [vinod]
uhhh... mmm.. i think someone's calling me
21:02:20 [k2pts]
I spent the day watching that poll..."no name change" is loosing ground to oaks...
21:02:47 [vinod]
actually, i'm not religious one way or the other, i just like the shorter "oacs" - especially since i've been writing docs ;-)
21:02:50 [talli]
hahah!!! we will win yet!
21:03:05 [k2pts]
it seems that we are both gonna lose
21:03:18 [talli]
i think there will be a run off
21:03:24 [k2pts]
Open Architecture Community System (aka OpenACS) is way ahead
21:03:37 [talli]
only in parliamentary democracies is 38% of the vote enough to win
21:03:48 [markd2]
or in Florida
21:04:13 [talli]
no, in florida the fewer votes you get, the more popular you are
21:04:21 [k2pts]
where would you give your vote if we had "Open Architecture Community System" vs "Open ArsDigita Community System" (OpenACS both)
21:04:34 [talli]
architecture
21:05:02 [talli]
arsdigita is dead. long live ... uh ... long live... markd2, help me out here
21:05:11 [k2pts]
that's why we should never let talli have an admin account on the new web site :) (Luke I hope you are reading the chatlogs)
21:05:37 [talli]
in florida, everything goes
21:05:51 [vinod]
yeah, look at docwolf and rzolf
21:05:57 [talli]
like two aD rejects living together making a "website" and drinking "diet coke"
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21:06:13 [markd2]
and driving in a "miata"
21:06:35 [k2pts]
have you checked fc lately. there's war out there
21:06:36 [talli]
ugh. "miata" shiver
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21:07:09 [vinod]
i thought you needed 2 X chromosomes to purchase a miata
21:07:35 [talli]
well, rolf has one, and so does docwolf...
21:07:42 [talli]
so together, that's 2, right?
21:07:45 [vinod]
ahhh - that explains it
21:08:34 [talli]
i wonder if they tie scarves around their head when they go for drives, like thelma and louise did.
21:08:45 [vinod]
lol
21:09:19 [davb]
I can't believe how much this coversation devolved while I rebooted...
21:10:04 [k2pts]
dave what did you vote?
21:10:23 [denshi]
hey, k2pts, what's your name out in The Big Room?
21:10:39 [davb]
k2pts: architecture I think.. I forget :)
21:10:59 [k2pts]
talli was complaining that I was riging the elections.
21:11:13 [k2pts]
I log off for a while and look what he does...
21:11:53 [denshi]
yup. 'The Big Room', you know, with the blue ceiling.
21:12:10 [k2pts]
* k2pts english get worst day by day
21:13:17 [vinod]
pretty soon, it'll be as bad as talli's
21:13:27 [k2pts]
:)
21:14:08 [k2pts]
I'm keeping talli busy in private until I have a few hate posts here. So come on please shows your anger ...
21:14:17 [k2pts]
s/show/show us
21:14:39 [talli]
k2pts, i will not send you naked pictures of vinod!
21:14:44 [talli]
oh, wait, sorry. wrong window
21:15:02 [k2pts]
:)
21:15:11 [k2pts]
vinod: do you believe this guy...
21:15:17 [vinod]
btw, i want those back someday talli
21:15:30 [k2pts]
you can't turn your back to him
21:15:43 [talli]
sorry, but i don't remember all the street lamps i posted them on.
21:15:54 [talli]
and central park is REALLY big
21:15:55 [vinod]
**definitely** don't turn your back to him
21:16:29 [k2pts]
* k2pts likes vinod
21:16:53 [talli]
careful, k2pts. vinod doesn't understand the difference between
21:17:05 [talli]
"like" and "wanna rumba"
21:17:19 [k2pts]
* k2pts points out that his english are not that good, so vinod be aware :)
21:17:24 [vinod]
haha
21:21:08 [davb]
bye for now
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23:18:40 [denshi]
has anyone else played with TOra?
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23:23:52 [denshi]
hi jabba
23:24:48 [denshi]
jabba, are you from austin?
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