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01:27:44 <davb> back.
02:14:57 <Psychephylax> woo
02:15:01 <Psychephylax> * Psychephylax kicks dave 
02:15:20 <Psychephylax> * Psychephylax kicks dave harder
02:15:44 <Psychephylax> * Psychephylax sneaks around the back and unplugs dave's computer from the wall outlet
02:17:42 <davb> argh and I still haven't plugged in the UPS
02:22:38 <davb> argharghargh
02:28:01 <davb> I killed postgresql
02:28:41 <davb> too many extended attributes for ETP
02:38:18 <davb> oops
02:38:21 <davb> nevermind
02:38:29 <davb> I was trying to access an item I had deleted.
02:38:36 <davb> still shouldn't crash the server though...
02:50:54 <davb> aha, etp is to detecting when you request a non-existant page...
02:59:55 <davb> s/is/is _not_
03:00:02 <davb> ok, time to go.
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03:19:03 <talilee> hey guys
03:19:15 <talilee> pretty good super bowl, no?
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12:41:51 <Psychephylax> too early
12:42:01 <Psychephylax> * Psychephylax goes to get clean
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15:03:43 <ola> good morning.
15:07:53 <ola> I'm having trouble configuring courier IMAP... do you mind if I ask a couple of questions, dave? :-)
15:11:45 <davb> Hi, np
15:14:47 <ola> hi. I think I need to export CPPFLAGS and/or LDFLAGS pointing to somewhere. I get: "configure: error: ./configure failed for bdbobj"...
15:15:35 <ola> I installed libgdbmg-dev but I don't know if it's necessary.
15:16:05 <davb> hmmmm. to compile it. I didn't have any problems. let me look.
15:16:59 <ola> I basically don't know what library to look for...I tried locate bdbobj, but that only showed files in the courier source tree.
15:17:17 <davb> ok. let me look to se which one mine used.
15:17:29 <ola> cool.
15:18:33 <davb> its in the courier source in the bdbobj directory I think.
15:18:41 <davb> at least in mine it is :)
15:19:14 <davb> does the user you are configuring as has access to all those dirs?
15:19:48 <davb> s/has/have
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15:22:17 <ola> yes it has. I tried to export CPPFLAGS and/or LDFLAGS pointing to the bdbobj/ dir in courier source tree from the command line, but that didn't work. 
15:23:03 <davb> weird, it "just works" for me. Is this a debian source package or did you just download it from the courier-imap site?
15:23:14 <davb> and what version is it?
15:23:19 <davb> I have 1.3.11
15:24:32 <ola> it's not a debian src package. version 1.4.2.
15:25:06 <davb> ah, differne tversion. I have libgdbm installed. I think you need that.
15:25:28 <davb> maybe not, part of its in my courier distribution...
15:25:41 <shagster> yea, you need gdbm installed to compile the later versions
15:26:03 <davb> ah. thanks.
15:26:15 <shagster> and if you add something, make sure to make clean, then re-run ./configure
15:26:33 <shagster> At least that is what I usually have to do :)
15:28:25 <ola> thanks shagster! I installed libgdbmg-dev and had libgdbmg, isn't that enough!?!
15:28:54 <ola> I mean I had those when I tried...
15:30:16 <ola> I haven't come to the "make phase" yet.
15:30:56 <ola> I think it has something to do with this FAQ section: http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/FAQ.html#db2
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15:31:54 <ola> hi markd2.
15:32:18 <markd2> greets
15:32:38 <markd2> set up my first oacs4 site last night
15:32:59 <ola> cool! how did it go?
15:33:03 <markd2> a breeze
15:33:09 <ola> heh
15:33:12 <davb> cool.
15:33:17 <markd2> I picked up the latest pre-packaged beta (november I think)
15:33:29 <davb> markd2: aigh, that's old :)
15:33:30 <markd2> used Vinod's guides a little bit to find the proper xml piece
15:33:52 <markd2> the "nightly tarball, might not even work" scared me off
15:34:00 <markd2> since I don't need a lot from the system right now
15:35:34 <davb> aha. Just some things have changed that might break if you try to go to the next released version.
15:35:55 <markd2> pretty much all I'm using now is templating
15:36:14 <markd2> and some cheesy acs 3.x style hacks
15:36:21 <davb> :)
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15:47:33 <ola> mmm.. cheesecake
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16:38:24 <ola> davb: did you configure with lots of "--without stuff"?
16:40:28 <ola> * ola wonders if he should install the debian package instead
16:41:48 <davb> ola: nope. I just did ./configure
16:41:56 <davb> I had 1.3.11 though...
16:42:17 <davb> go ahead and try the debian package. that was a coupel of months ago, things change :)
16:54:00 <ola> ok. think I'll do that. the source has had its chance.
16:59:25 <davb> ola: did you install the qmail package?  I think the courier-imap package needs the qmail package...  or something like that :)
17:02:07 <ola> oh! no, I didn't... I installed qmail from source. it will be interesting to see if it will work;-)
17:04:17 <ola> there's a dependency on exim though, which I removed previously. I will have to fix some symlinks to /var/qmail/bin/sendmail I think.
17:14:23 <ola> what authmodule should I use? I dont want to unix user for each email user...
17:20:56 <ola> AUTHMODULES="autuserdb" perhaps...
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17:30:23 <cro> yo
17:31:10 <cro> Anyone here running a recent cvs version of oacs4 on Oracle 8.1.7?
17:31:37 <markd2> dunno
17:31:41 <markd2> what kind of problems are you seeing?
17:32:03 <cro> Groups problems--I posted about it on the forums, but had no response yet.
17:33:03 <markd2> ah.
17:33:05 <markd2> * markd2 has no clue
17:33:06 <markd2> sorry
17:33:22 <cro> Oh--I have a response this morning--hm, didn't get it by email.
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17:46:51 <talli> hey guys
17:51:07 <cro> hi talli
17:51:25 <davb> hi talli
17:51:27 <talli> hey cro
17:51:40 <talli> haven't seen you around here much. welcome!
17:51:44 <davb> ola, yeah userdb is good.
17:51:47 <talli> hey davb, how'd the weekend end up?
17:51:56 <davb> there are utilities to make a userdb
17:52:34 <cro> talli: I lurk. :-)
17:52:46 <talli> ah... ok
17:58:42 <markd2> * markd2 used to lurk
17:58:53 <markd2> but then all those restraining orders from the neighbors.  can't do that now anymore
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18:58:51 <Psychephylax> Oggers?
19:01:13 <markd2> help me oggie ben doggie, you're my only hope
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20:41:53 <talli> hey guys
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23:54:12 <denshi> psyche, how are you feeling?
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