19:36:30 loggy (~openacs-l@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #openacs 19:36:30 topic is: OpenACS:Free Web Toolkit http://openacs.org, awash on the seas of a capricious network. 19:36:30 Users on #OpenACS: loggy til davb andyn abbaJ jim chump shagster beattiek rbm Psychephylax djg 19:36:30 [#OpenACS] This channel is logged: http://www.blogspace.com/openacs/chatlogs/ and blogged: http://www.thedesignexperience.org/openacs/ircblog 19:38:33 yeah loggy! 19:49:28 davb: NOW I get etp :) 19:50:11 except... 19:50:33 if you arrange to edit main page, 19:50:52 and you have an etp mounted, it shows up as a link 19:51:05 but you don't see the site map links 19:51:08 jim did you mount it at ETP? 19:51:12 yes 19:51:20 ah. don't do that :) 19:51:33 is that a special link? 19:51:38 I haven't tracked it down yet. 19:51:50 it's only ETP? 19:52:00 it screws it up because the magic page is /etp.tcl and all the links are /etp?name=foo 19:52:28 I think its fixable, but easier for me to just mount it someplace else for now. 19:52:49 ok 19:53:03 I also think it used to work with it mounted at etp but a change to something somewhere broke it. 19:53:33 jim: do you plan to use wimpypoint on the same site as etp? 19:54:23 you might not have an answer for this one (indeed, not your responsibility...) 19:55:05 but when is the wp guy gonna look at my patch and realize it almost fixes the no-tags problem? 19:55:20 good question. 19:55:39 is there something I should do to let him know other than put the patch in there? 19:55:54 See, I think there is a disconnect here, the people who ported the stuff are not necessarily interested in maintaining them :) 19:56:14 jim: email him. I have never gotten an email frm the SDM but supposedly it sends them out. 19:56:48 oops, i broke etp... 19:56:50 ok, sounds good... 19:57:04 also the "i'm interested" buttons in the sdm seem to be good for nothing ... 19:57:35 they're supposed to mail you stuff if you;re interested 19:59:28 is the sdm ported to oacs4? 20:00:02 no, unfortunately not 20:00:28 i read don plans to mount the 3.x instance on the new site until something better is available 20:01:40 OK, if there's this breakage between port and maint, I think someone should see which apps are ported just enough to be sorta usable (i.e., crosses the port|maint line) and put up a "Hi, adopt-a-package to maintain!" app 20:02:24 with the list of maintainable packages in there, and a column added to the package listing separating porting from maintaining 20:02:55 also you might want to mail the assigned tester for wp, maybe he knows more 20:03:06 ok 20:03:28 you know where? there's the assigned testers table somewhere in new-file-storage 20:03:35 * jim notes my patch applies to last nite's nightly 20:04:21 hmmm, maybe I dont' know where that table is 20:04:43 just a second 20:05:38 http://openacs.org/new-file-storage/download/test-assignments.html?version_id=437 20:05:38 H: http://openacs.org/new-file-storage/download/test-assignments.html?version_id=437 from til 20:05:51 davb: also, can general comments be applied to etps? 20:05:57 hmm, there's no entry for wp 20:06:36 or anything beyond T* 20:06:50 jim: yes. I think there is a little file in there somewhere that explains how. 20:07:09 I will be trying it soon :) 20:07:49 duh :) 20:08:05 I have the index.vuh from etp leftover but I reloaded the data model. 20:24:06 here's something I think would really be impressive... and you're already moving toward it, probably already thought of it... 20:24:14 :) 20:24:46 ok, I am stumped. 20:24:56 if you could get everything in the congratulations page into an etp... 20:25:22 Something is still picking up the wimpypoint in the list of ETP pages mounted at / 20:26:01 all the links, the place where it says "you're logged in as foo (change login)" 20:26:13 oops, I crashed the server again. 20:26:13 or the login widget 20:26:28 and the links at the bottom 20:26:38 and have all those be content items 20:27:29 jim: thats a cool idea. 20:28:28 then you ship openacs with etp enabled on /, with that content... hook it into the site map... 20:29:14 Once you have that, you could do a skin editor 20:29:24 spiffy. 20:29:46 ETP has a internal link feature, so all the links to the site map etc can use that. 20:29:48 then everyone really can immediately customize it 20:30:06 s/it/openacs/ 20:30:10 Only thing is OpenACS: The Toolkit is really not built for that :) 20:30:20 you are talking about OpenACS: The Application 20:30:35 But its a great idea. 20:31:46 I think you -do- have a lot of the things in place to support it...' 20:31:51 forexample 20:32:16 add a page calls up a site map function to do its work 20:32:47 interesting. 20:33:11 I'm just pointing out that you have -really- big opportunities to integrate this thing 20:33:19 I agree. 20:33:25 I just wish I could fix this query :) 20:46:48 Aha, I think I see the problem. 20:47:15 WP content_items are created with the parent_id set to null. I think ETP items are also. 20:47:43 So they have the same parent_id and ETP picks them up in the query. 20:48:24 wait, not ETP does it right, it uses Folder_id. WP leaves it out totally. 20:48:25 oops. 20:49:32 it should use the package_id so that each instance of the package can only see its own wimpypoints 20:51:14 jim: Don is the maintainerof WP, he was probably just too busy :) 20:51:29 ahh, ok 20:51:54 would he be able to confirm if the sdm emails were getting to him? 20:51:58 at least in the SDM he is. he might be listed as maintainer for all of them, now that I think of it. 20:52:04 they must, I got them 20:52:11 really? 20:52:24 well, from other sections of it 20:52:45 interesting. 20:53:00 I clicked "im interested" in openacs 4 overall 20:53:06 so I was getting patches 20:53:08 ok. 20:53:39 jim: according to openacs.org, I _am_ interested and I have never gotten a patch or bug report. 20:53:42 weird. 20:54:03 hmm 20:54:25 according the the status doc JackP and SidW are the guys doing the port. 20:54:54 maybe it was oacs -3- I was interested in, and it was a different instance of sdm... 20:55:07 I forget now :) 20:55:09 its a mystery 20:55:24 and it's probably history :) 20:55:27 heh 20:55:47 ok. wp_presentation__new should take the parent_id are a parameter. 20:58:07 you're integrating wp with etp? 20:58:35 no, I am fixing a bug that appears when you install etp :) 20:58:49 I could just ignore it, I don't even plan on using wp 20:59:10 weird, there is NO tcl api for wp. its all in the pages. ick 21:02:14 ok. cool. the package_id already exists. we just stuff it in when we create the presentation and ...poof... its fixed. 21:02:16 :) 21:02:45 I wonder what the oracle version does... 21:05:58 time to do the datamodel shuffle! 21:07:49 til: can you please remind me of the secret CVS diff incantation I will need in a couple of minutes? :) 21:10:24 you mean for submitting a patch? 21:11:07 til: yes 21:13:58 cd to package root, e.g. cd /web/oacs/packages/wp-slim, then cvs diff -c www/path/to/changed_file.tcl > patchfilename.patch 21:14:07 but no warranty ;) 21:14:28 ok thanks. 21:15:07 argh, bug 21:16:06 What?? a bug?? in openacs4??? can't be!! 21:16:08 oops, duh 21:16:11 no in my code. 21:16:23 even more common than Oacs4 in general :) 21:16:57 I think I should try vinods 7.2 patch and use create or replace 21:18:44 aha, it was in the XQL, easy to reload. 21:19:31 aha, it works. 21:19:41 thanks! time to go home now. 21:20:15 davb has quit () 21:50:14 talilee__ (~talli@188.muka.lasv.snfccafj.dsl.att.net) has joined #openacs 21:58:43 talilee__ has quit ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 22:21:03 til has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))