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I have content in the folder AOLserver-ports/OS/OpenBSD 16:29:07 and I want to let someone sign up so that when new content is published, they get an email 17:09:30 markd2 (~Snak@r-41.17.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 17:13:08 xemacs5: that is a good idea. 17:14:50 I have the flu, so my brain isn't working 100% though :) 17:23:23 til (tils@port-212-202-128-204.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 17:26:01 lol 17:26:05 Did you get it from me? 17:27:04 I hope not :( 17:27:07 http://developer.netscape.com/evangelism/docs/articles/img-table/ 17:27:07 A: http://developer.netscape.com/evangelism/docs/articles/img-table/ from davb 17:27:17 A:|Images, Tables, and Mysterious Gaps 17:27:18 titled item A 17:27:22 i have to format my hard drive 17:27:27 I need an OS to install though 17:27:31 Win98SE or WinXP? 17:27:34 ack 17:27:40 XP i guess. 17:27:41 syn ack 17:27:49 doh 17:27:57 dave, you're supposed to send me a syn not an ack 17:28:20 abbaJ: fixing gaps with images in table cells with CSS 17:28:30 talilee_ has left #openacs 17:28:41 synners repent 17:29:18 lol 17:32:02 what do ackers do? 17:33:16 the lay ootball p n reen ay 17:34:45 eh? 17:34:58 he reen ay ackers! 17:36:32 * Psychephylax is lost 17:36:43 * markd2 hands psychephylax a T, G, B, and a P 17:38:19 hmmm 17:38:22 no vowels 17:38:27 I can't do anything with those 17:45:19 Going with 98SE 17:45:28 a lot more things seem to work better with it 17:53:33 til has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:53:33 xemacs5 has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:53:33 chump has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:53:33 Psychephylax has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:53:33 markd2 has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:53:33 dlk has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:53:33 davb has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:53:33 djg has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:53:33 shagster has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:53:33 abbaJ has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:53:33 beattiek has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:53:33 andyn has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:53:33 rbm has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:57:40 til (tils@port-212-202-128-204.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #OpenACS 17:57:40 markd2 (~Snak@r-41.17.alltel.net) has joined #OpenACS 17:57:40 dlk (dlk@garrison.ita.chalmers.se) has joined #OpenACS 17:57:40 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #OpenACS 17:57:40 beattiek (beattiek@bmhd25b1y14ha.bc.hsia.telus.net) has joined #OpenACS 17:57:40 andyn (~andy@12.254.190.230) has joined #OpenACS 17:57:40 rbm (rmello@fslc.usu.edu) has joined #OpenACS 17:57:40 xemacs5 (patrick@205.247.253.73) has joined #OpenACS 17:57:40 shagster (~mkovach@web1.alal.com) has joined #OpenACS 17:57:40 djg (~dirk@212.84.246.68) has joined #OpenACS 17:57:40 chump (~chump@alb-24-58-160-41.nycap.rr.com) has joined #OpenACS 17:57:40 Psychephylax (proxy@ool-18bd7775.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #OpenACS 17:57:40 abbaJ (~jabba@adsl-65-67-61-34.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) has joined #OpenACS 17:57:41 [#OpenACS] This channel is logged: http://www.blogspace.com/openacs/chatlogs/ and blogged: http://www.thedesignexperience.org/openacs/ircblog 17:59:16 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 18:00:00 markd2 has quit ("Bork") 18:08:23 markd2 (~markd2@r-41.17.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 18:33:07 * rbm is back 18:33:35 still a lot of snow out there? 18:35:24 Not today. But yesterday, wooof! I had to use a shovel to take snow from the my car's roof. And I literally had to carve it out of a pile of snow. Had I not an assigned parking spot, I think I would have not found my car. 18:38:18 did you get any pictures? 18:38:30 davb (~chatzilla@alb-24-58-160-239.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 18:38:44 markd2: Yeah, but I haven't developed them yet. 18:39:44 Someday I should buy a digital camera for occasional pictures like these. 18:40:25 I was looking for a cheap way to get my hundreds of negatives into digital format. Taking them to Wal-Mart is anything but cheap. 18:40:57 They charge $6.92 for the CD, then $0.20 per picture, for up to 20 rolls of filme per CD 18:41:23 That's about $5 per roll of film, which would add up to $100 for 20 rolls. 18:43:31 ouch 18:43:40 rbm: is that for PhotoCD format? 18:43:53 boston photo is expensive, but you can pick and choose which exposures get put onto the CD 18:44:29 davb: I think so. 18:44:35 Roberto, you'd probably save a bundle by buying a scanner that can scan negatives 18:44:46 Psychephylax: That's what I'm thinking now. 18:44:53 a good negative scanner is at least $300. 18:45:08 you can find decent ones for 200$ or so 18:45:27 My wife is pregnant, so now I have to watch my buget a lot closer. 18:45:32 Ah 18:45:34 s/buget/budget/ 18:45:34 Congrats 18:45:47 Thanks (: 18:45:48 wow. Didn't even know you were married! 18:45:58 markd2: Yep. Almost 3 years. 18:45:59 figured you were some bachelr student with lots of time on your hands 18:46:07 markd2: Hah! 18:46:17 That's what I thought 18:46:59 The wife doesn't take much time. Having to work a lot because of college salaries is what takes most of my time. 18:48:04 My job pays $9.5/hr and that is _very_ good for our college town. 18:48:32 Hopefully I'll get a good increase when I get into graduate school. 18:48:39 * rbm is graduating in May! 18:48:48 woo hoo! 18:48:49 yeah! 18:48:57 are you gonna stay in the states and look for a job? 18:49:01 * markd2 enters nosy mode 18:49:05 That is assuming I can pay for graduate school 18:49:21 woohooo 18:49:43 * Psychephylax enters sub-nosy mode 18:49:50 Roberto, what do you do? 18:49:59 markd2: I would like to go to graduate school. Going back to Brazil with a U.S. degree will be better than with a Brazillian degree, but still not very good. 18:50:01 aside from going to school :-) 18:50:06 markd2: Re: staying in the 18:50:31 markd2: Re: staying in the U.S., I don't know yet. Sometimes I want to go back (most times), sometimes I want to stay. 18:50:38 hehe 18:50:43 Miss the homeland :-/ 18:51:19 I miss my family more than anything. Oh, not having such cold winters is a plus, but I'm okay with winters. I think it's fun. My wife hates it :-) 18:51:27 lol 18:51:34 i miss winters 18:51:36 I miss snow 18:51:50 yeah. it's been warm this side of the country 18:52:38 I'm really concerned about what's going on in the U.S. The laws that have been passed are really crazy. 18:53:03 yeah 18:53:12 but at least they made them have like a 5 year life span 18:54:00 Psychephylax: At work we are finishing a project with ACS classic (4.2). My next project will probably be doing a python gui app. 18:54:43 Psychephylax: Oh, really? So the DMCA will be defunct in 2003? 18:55:12 what's DMCA? 18:55:17 Psychephylax: !!!! 18:55:21 I don't know all the crazy laws they passed :-P 18:55:47 Psychephylax: Digital Millenium Copyright Act. One of the most draconian laws ever. 18:55:53 oh 18:55:55 That one 18:55:58 eh 18:56:05 I thought you meant the ones about terrorism 18:56:16 I don't think the DMCA has an expiration date. 18:56:23 me neither 18:56:48 Psychephylax: The ones about terrorism will eventually get better. Right now they are part of an understandable knee-jerk reaction. 18:57:11 Psychephylax: OTOH, the technology/copyright/patent laws seem to be getting worse with time. 18:57:22 yeah 18:57:23 but hey 18:57:34 There will always be ways around it 18:57:43 * markd2 advocates violence 18:57:49 or at least saying naughty words at them 18:57:53 violence is king :-) 18:57:54 lol 18:57:59 * Psychephylax gives Mark a cookie 18:58:05 yay! a cookie!! 18:58:08 * rbm heeds to markd2's counsel and runs with a machette in hand towards Psyche 18:58:08 bet ya haven't seen these for a while 18:58:09 lol 18:58:24 * Psychephylax splashes cold milk at Roberto 18:58:35 * rbm cries over the spilled milk 18:58:43 Is that a common saying here in the U.S. too? 18:58:50 lol 18:58:51 yes, very :) 18:58:54 aye 18:59:06 * markd2 spies over killed milk 18:59:28 Somebody should write a thesis on common sayings in different cultures. I've found several Brazillian sayings that have an exact match in the U.S. 18:59:39 really? cool! 19:00:01 lol 19:00:15 I think there are some russian ones that are like that 19:00:36 * rbm realizes he should be working 19:00:37 * markd2 makes sure not to let his borscht get too deflunkt 19:01:04 Hey, I bought a Logitech optical mouse for $18 at Wal-Mart yesterday. It's schweeeet! 19:01:13 yep 19:01:14 lol 19:01:20 is it blue? 19:01:25 with a wheel? 19:01:25 Quake 3 gains a whole new meaning with it :) 19:01:34 lol 19:01:47 Psychephylax: It has a wheel, but it's not blue. It's beige. 19:01:53 oh 19:01:59 You got the other model 19:02:06 I have the 10$ more expensive one 19:02:17 I don't know why exactly it's 10$ more expensive but it's a very good mouse 19:02:18 A friend of mine bought this same mouse 1 year ago for $100 or something. 19:02:28 lol 19:02:30 insane 19:02:32 Psychephylax: Probably because it's prettier. 19:02:32 I am holding out for the cordless model. 19:03:09 davb: They had that one for $45 I think. I wasn't sure if it would work with Linux, so I didn't consider it for more than a few seconds. 19:03:23 oh, excellent point. thanks :) 19:03:24 davb: Plus, I'm not sure I really have a use for a cordless mouse 19:03:44 * rbm makes sure all hardware he buys is Linux-compatible. 19:03:54 heh 19:04:14 I'm really tired of beige PC boxes. 19:04:29 get one of the new imacs 19:04:43 postgres question ... 19:04:59 got some fixed width text to import, can it be done with COPY ? 19:05:48 xemacs5: Yes, as long as you have the right field separators. e.g. If the field separator is a tab, you have to escape the \t's in your text 19:07:19 they appear to be spaces, that is the problem 19:07:27 a varying number of spaces 19:09:26 xemacs5: What? The field separators? 19:10:12 anyone messed with nsgd or ino_chart before? 19:16:31 rbm: the field separators are just spaces 19:17:03 rbm: the file is fixed width, eg. field 3 always starts at character # 42 19:17:10 from the beginning of each line 19:27:11 xemacs5: Hmm. You'll probably need to do some massaging in your input file before importing. Roll up your regexp sleeves. 19:27:57 I googled for the answer and found out that people were using perl or python to transform the file into SQL, or else just inserting from there. 19:28:12 That works too. 19:32:42 sounds like what I will have to do then... 19:33:55 talilee_ (~talli@lti-4.dialup.access.net) has joined #openacs 19:39:38 Anyone who gets dll's and solaris here? 19:39:57 dll is windows land! 19:40:04 that's probably why the shared libs on solaris are fighting back :-) 19:40:34 markd2: Okay then. s/dll/.so's/ :) 19:40:54 much beter 19:40:59 I've done 'em in the past 19:41:01 what's up? 19:41:36 markd2: do you have a solaris box with AOLserver handy to help me with something? It'd only take a moment, I promise 19:41:52 not handy :-( 19:41:55 I would let you use our Solaris box, but it's behind the firewall 19:42:13 markd2: Linux then? Should be pretty close. 19:42:22 yep. got linux 19:42:35 markd2: Okay. Let me pack up a tarball for you really quick 19:47:39 markd2: http://www.brasileiro.net/roberto/bin/inochart.tar.gz 19:48:12 markd2: Go into the inochart/gdchart/ dir and do a "make" first. 19:48:36 xemacs5 has quit ("ircII+tkirc2") 19:48:43 markd2: Then edit the toplevel Makefile for your paths and try make. 19:48:45 kie 19:49:20 I think the gd makefile assumes you have libttf installed, so if you don't, comment that on the gd-1.7.3/Makefile 19:50:17 I get 404 from that url 19:50:18 I'm trying to do charts with AOLserver. The two options I have are nsgd and inochart. nsgd is okay, but it's not for especifically for charts. It would take more work to make it do charts. 19:50:26 markd2: Oh. Hang ong. 19:51:40 markd2: sorry. perms problems. You can access it now. 19:51:55 cool 19:51:56 downloading 19:52:40 inochart, OTOH, is an AOLserver to gdchart, a library for charts built on top of GD. It has bar, pie, area, etc. charts all done for me. 19:53:08 However, inochart has been abandoned by its original author. I haven't heard from him in like a year. 19:53:29 I had to change the original Makefile to make it build with AOLserver 3.3. 19:55:00 looks like I don't have -lgd 19:55:10 what's the problem you're having? 19:57:04 markd2: You have to build gd by going into the gdchart dir first. 19:57:11 ah 19:57:35 you probably already said that 19:57:38 markd2: yes 19:57:46 markd2: "[29/Jan/2002:12:48:30][19047.1][-main-] Warning: modload: failed to load '/webroot/aol33/bin/ino_chart.so': 'ld.so.1: /webroot/aol33/bin/nsd: fatal: relocation error: file /webroot/aol33/bin/ino_chart.so: symbol GDC_new_chart: referenced symbol not found'" 19:58:52 markd2: Check out http://www.fred.net/brv/chart/ to see what's possible with gdchart. 19:59:06 http://www.fred.net/brv/chart/ 19:59:06 B: http://www.fred.net/brv/chart/ from rbm 19:59:35 B:|GDChart library, for charts. Built on top of gd. inochart is an AOLserver module for gdchart. 19:59:35 titled item B 19:59:56 did you say anything about gdc? 20:00:09 markd2: I don't understand why it's failing to find the GDC_new_chart. 20:00:23 markd2: I don't think so. why? 20:00:35 there's a -lgdc in the makefile that I don't have 20:00:38 commenting it out seems to have worked 20:01:07 GDC_new_chart isn't defined in the libgd.a 20:01:29 in fact, GDC isn't mentioned anywhere in gdchart 20:01:30 markd2: I was trying lots of stuff, so I may have left something unneeded there. Yes, I remember now. I tried packing the gdc*.o's into a gdc.a 20:01:43 markd2: it is. Hang on. 20:01:52 I was in the wrong dir 20:01:52 sorry 20:02:58 markd2: I wonder if I have to pack the gdc*.o' 20:03:13 markd2: I wonder if packing the gdc*.o's into the libgd.a would work. 20:03:27 !@#%!@#$% enter key 20:03:29 GDC_new_chart is defined in gdchart.o, and that's not being included in your 'ar rc libgd.a' 20:03:30 heh 20:05:08 so you may just be missing some files 20:05:18 'nm libgd.a | grep some_symbol' will tell you if that symbol is in the lib 20:05:55 * rbm tries stuffin the gdc*.o's into libgd.a 20:07:28 markd2: I tried making a libgdc.a with the gdc*.o's and adding a "-lgdc" to the ino_chart.so, but I got weird results by doing that in Linux 20:07:45 rbm: But that was last week. My computer may be feeling better today :) 20:08:25 heh 20:08:39 there may be an ordering issue to. -lgdc might need to come before -lgd 20:08:49 assuming the linux linker just makes one pass 20:16:16 Okay, got the gdc's into libgd.a and `nm libgd.a | grep GDC` tells me they are there. 20:18:20 coolio 20:18:56 hmmm 20:19:02 This can't be a good sound coming from a hard drive 20:19:14 * Psychephylax feels the need to check up on his warranty info 20:22:25 talilee_ has left #openacs 20:23:52 http://www.kibo.com/webtv/webtv.html 20:23:52 C: http://www.kibo.com/webtv/webtv.html from markd2 20:23:59 C:| Leader Kibo's Web-TV page 20:23:59 titled item C 20:24:18 C: View at your own risk. 20:24:18 commented item C 20:24:42 markd2: what's the risk? 20:25:45 I see. risk of getting a headache. 20:26:50 and an earache 20:27:05 view source. the story in there is (somewhat) amusing 20:28:39 when people compare the size of such and such webserver how are they figuring it out? 20:28:57 are they talking about memory or just drive space it uses up? 20:29:26 I've not seen web server size comparisons 20:29:30 what kind of units are they expressed in? 20:29:43 megabites 20:29:59 memory is cheap, disk space is cheap is my answer :-) 20:30:09 Ah, how many cookies the markd2 unit consumes 20:30:36 I AM MEGABITOR!!!! 20:30:46 megabItes? Cool! 20:31:24 (sorry for the abuse andyn - it's a tough crowd here :-) 20:33:39 * andyn is so out of it he didn't even notice the abuse 20:34:09 I'd hope the comparison would be memory footprint per connection, but that would be to rational for most marketing 20:34:09 heheh 20:36:49 rbm: i remember you do a comparison between the install size of aolserver and coldfusion with someone in the fslc group ( or maybe it wasn't install size, i just can't remember) maybe if you rember you could possibly remind what i'm talking about? 20:39:00 andyn: It wasn't really a comparison, just a point I was trying to make. I think I compared installation size for the ColdFusion server and AOLserver 20:39:08 ColdFusion is HUGE 20:39:53 so maybe you just did a du -hs /home/aolserver ? if that is where your install directory is? 20:41:26 andyn: yes 20:46:07 denshi (~chatzilla@adsl-216-62-223-193.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) has joined #openacs 20:47:04 loggy, will rbm have children? 20:48:59 I'm logging. I found 1 answer for 'will rbm have children' 20:49:00 0) 2002-01-29 20:47:04 loggy, will rbm have children? 20:49:08 yes. rbm is pregnant again 20:49:08 OH my heck! I think ino_chart loaded finally! 20:49:08 woot! 20:49:08 I don't think that's allowed in Utah, actually.. 20:49:08 wtf is ino_chart? 20:49:08 denshi: A graphing module for AOLserver 20:49:08 Now I have another hurdle... ino_chart currently only returns the graph straight to the connection. I don't think I can do that with the ACS 4.2 request processor lying around can I? 20:49:14 loggy, where is kibo today? 20:49:34 I'm logging. I found 1 answer for 'where is kibo today' 20:49:35 0) 2002-01-29 20:49:14 loggy, where is kibo today? 20:49:41 Cool 20:49:41 * rbm hands denshi "/msg loggy" 20:49:46 oops. 20:49:54 loggy, /msg loggy? 20:50:28 I'm logging. I found 7 answers for '/msg loggy' (showing 0...4) 20:50:29 0) 2002-01-29 20:49:54 loggy, /msg loggy? 20:50:30 1) 2002-01-29 20:49:41 * rbm hands denshi "/msg loggy" 20:50:31 2) 2002-01-22 01:26:51 I'm logging. I don't understand 'can you find the stick for 'talli: ok, I'll talk to todd'', denshi. Try /msg loggy help 20:50:32 3) 2002-01-16 16:58:09 I'm logging. I don't understand 'I know you hold all our dark secrets', denshi. Try /msg loggy help 20:50:33 4) 2002-01-16 16:57:39 I'm logging. I don't understand 'screw you', rbm. Try /msg loggy help 20:50:40 GN000! 20:50:40 does tcl have closures? 20:51:12 * loggy is already logging 20:51:56 let me open tclsh and check.. 20:52:56 unng.. yes and no. 20:53:18 sounds typical for tcl 20:54:03 I screwed around a little last night with a DB API in LISP & Perl that used closures heavily. 20:55:03 talilee (~talli@lti-4.dialup.access.net) has joined #openacs 20:55:06 then I wondered why I never did that in Tcl. 20:55:29 What do you mean by closure? 20:55:46 talilee has left #openacs 20:55:59 rbm: closure in the LISP sense of the word, rather than the way the Scheme community uses it. 20:56:08 thankfully, the rest of the world uses the LISP def. 20:57:42 to define: if you write a function that writes a function, any variables that are local to that function remain part of the new function -- they don't go out of scope. 20:57:57 you need that for currying and a whole mess of other things. 20:58:14 curryinG? 20:59:05 I realized that this doesn't make much sense in Tcl as there's not much sense in defining procedures by procedures, only constructing food for eval. 21:00:38 rbm: a simple example is this: (defun addn (n) #'(lambda (x) (+ x n))) 21:01:06 a call to that returns a fxn that takes a var and adds n to it. 21:01:50 so you would call addn(2) to get a fxn you might assign to 'add2' or something, and then call add2(x) to get x + 2. 21:03:16 little things like this make LISP people kind of bored with the world. When a C variant is talking all cool b/c they have a shorthand for increment, closures enable the users to generate those shorthands. 21:04:59 denshi: how does scheme do it differently? (not that I will understand :) 21:05:01 denshi: I don't know enough LISP to interpret the above. 21:05:10 But I understood your explanation. 21:05:11 def on 'currying': http://wombat.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?curried+function 21:06:25 thanks 21:06:36 davb: scheme uses 'closure' as 'the closure property' and use it do describe how a data structure terminates. I think I'm actually slightly off-base. But since code == data, they have some codeflow point that they'll make. I really need to finish SICP soon. 21:07:08 I still think 'currying' should be called 'Schoenfinkeling'. 21:07:13 I need to start soon :) 21:07:19 yeah I read that, me too 21:07:53 I'm almost done with ANSI Common LISP. That book is a joy to read. All technical books should use it as a template. 21:08:53 By chapter 17 he demonstrates how to write a new OO language using what he taught in the book. It's amazingly concise. 21:09:12 Hmmm. ino_chart was loaded, but the Tcl interp doesn't seem to find "ino_chart" command. 21:11:00 markd2: have you wrapped your tongue around currying yet? 21:11:07 heh 21:11:09 I glanced at it 21:12:20 not your taste? 21:12:30 not enough mental bandwidth now to really process it 21:12:34 that is going for $1.00 used on amazon , I think something weird is going on with that vendor 21:16:06 has anyone read friedman's "essentials of programming languages"? 21:20:21 YOW! ino_chart worked! 21:20:46 * rbm dances and scarifices a lizzard to the compilation gods 21:21:30 Now to add a command to do pie charts. That should be fun. 21:22:49 woo hoo! 21:26:08 awesome! 21:26:36 I think I'll rename this module to be nsgdchart, clean it up, add some commands, and contribute to the aolserver module colletion 21:26:44