00:00:52 actually - i never checked... 00:01:12 looks like XML mode (which is probably from PSGML) 00:01:56 ahh yes: (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.adp" . xml-mode)) 00:03:12 good, i'll try that ... html-mode always complains about some missing catalog 00:04:04 yeah, you need to point it to a CATALOG file. roberto's docs-howto in new-file-storage explains how (if you need it ) 00:06:09 * til wanders to new-file-storage 00:09:52 here's the direct link: http://openacs.org/new-file-storage/one-file?file_id=271 00:10:52 always the direct one 00:11:13 actually, the info that i thought was in there isn't 00:11:22 hold on.. lemme find the super-direct link 00:12:11 always the super-direct one 00:12:17 aha: just below that one - http://openacs.org/new-file-storage/one-file?file_id=272 00:12:28 direction is always relative 00:13:44 thanks 00:14:09 np 01:15:49 vinod has quit ("changing universes") 01:23:51 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 01:38:19 til: you can also try mmm to make an html/tcl mode (I stole it from rbm's .emacs) 01:39:43 i remember never getting this to work with .jsp files, but that's some time ago 01:40:14 I couldn't get psgml mode working with adp files, but the mmm mode thing works. you just need the mmm emacs package. 01:40:52 mmm.... emacs.... 01:41:50 ah, mmm is apt-gettable 01:42:24 yes. very handy. I can send the part of the .emacs file. 01:42:33 * til understands markd2's joke after only 5 minutes 01:42:56 davb: yes pls (tils@tils.net) 01:44:12 oops... vim messed up the tabs... 01:44:41 you are editing .emacs with vim? 01:45:10 no, that is what is set for the editor for mutt 01:45:12 :) 01:47:13 I sent it, let me know if its too messed up :) 01:48:25 no passwords in it, what a pity 01:50:07 (vinod sent his aim password by accident with his .emacs previously) 01:50:30 2sexy4myAIM 01:50:42 everyone's known it for awhile 01:52:25 haha 01:56:33 thanks dave, got it (still readable) 01:56:40 cool. np. 01:56:56 I hope it works for you. I commented out the adp part in the psgml section. 01:59:27 now i will start using <% %> again, just because this mode is so cool ;) 02:00:28 excellent. 02:00:49 I have a stupid emacs question. How do I set server mode? 02:01:06 M-x gnuserv-start ? 02:01:54 in xemacs only i think 02:03:21 or (server-start) in the .emacs file. 02:03:29 thanks. 02:05:06 hmmm 02:42:15 talli_ (talli@lti-4.dialup.access.net) has joined #openacs 02:42:31 talli_ has quit (Client Quit) 03:24:54 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 04:18:36 talilee (~talli@lti-4.dialup.access.net) has joined #openacs 04:32:27 booga 04:34:03 markd2 has quit ("Bork") 05:20:19 talilee has left #openacs 06:15:22 shagster has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 06:15:22 til has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 06:15:22 djg has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 06:15:22 hazmat has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 06:15:22 talli has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 06:15:22 the_docwolf has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 06:15:22 abbaJ has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 06:15:22 chump has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 06:15:22 Psychephylax has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 06:20:46 talli (~user@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #OpenACS 06:20:46 shagster (~mkovach@web1.alal.com) has joined #OpenACS 06:20:46 til (tils@port-212-202-128-200.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #OpenACS 06:20:46 djg (~dirk@212.84.246.68) has joined #OpenACS 06:20:46 hazmat (~ender@adsl-66-123-57-58.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) has joined #OpenACS 06:20:46 the_docwolf (~docwolf@adsl-21-215-24.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #OpenACS 06:20:59 [#OpenACS] This channel is logged: http://www.blogspace.com/openacs/chatlogs/ and blogged: http://www.thedesignexperience.org/openacs/ircblog 06:21:02 abbaJ (~jabba@adsl-64-123-15-166.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) has joined #OpenACS 06:21:02 chump (~chump@alb-24-58-160-41.nycap.rr.com) has joined #OpenACS 06:21:02 Psychephylax (proxy@ool-18bd7775.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #OpenACS 07:15:51 hazmat has quit (Remote closed the connection) 07:49:30 til has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:24:41 hazmat (~ender@adsl-66-123-57-58.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) has joined #openacs 09:34:39 jim (~jim@12-233-187-5.client.attbi.com) has joined #openacs 09:52:30 jim has quit ("[x]chat") 09:52:56 the_docwolf has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:09:44 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 14:31:41 markd2 (~Snak@r-41.125.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 15:13:54 markd2 has quit ("Bork") 16:20:22 talli_ (~talli@lti-4.dialup.access.net) has joined #openacs 16:24:06 talli_ has left #openacs 16:35:48 Man, I really hate getting sick 16:40:16 me too, don't breathe into the channel too much 16:41:44 :) 16:45:16 bbl 16:46:01 heh 16:46:04 I'll try not to 17:55:44 til (tils@port-212-202-128-200.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 18:20:53 markd2 (~Snak@r-41.83.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 18:28:28 markd2 is now known as markd-going-bathroom 18:28:34 markd-going-bathroom is now known as markd-back 18:29:37 markd-back is now known as markd2 21:27:18 talilee (~talli@talli.dialup.access.net) has joined #openacs 21:27:28 hey guys. anyone here today? 21:29:23 hi. I am here for a little while. 21:29:30 hey davb. how's it going? 21:29:41 not bad. I am fooling around with NSSoap 21:29:49 how's it look? 21:30:07 it looks pretty good, just needs docs :) 21:30:18 as does everything... 21:33:40 it is very nice. you specify a remote method and it creates a local tcl proc to call it. 21:33:58 sounds nice. what is an example? 21:34:05 what do you want to use it for? 21:34:19 oh, to get it working with the blogger/radio userland api. 21:34:42 someone wrote a tool that can access it that runs in mozilla. so you can post to a web site using it. 21:34:44 what is your vision for using that stuff? 21:34:49 ah, right i saw that 21:35:05 also it would work with radio userland. and there are more desktop tools coming every day. 21:35:27 I really like the idea of a custom tool that runs in Mozilla. 21:35:54 Of course, one that runs in IE would probably be easier to sell to most clients. 21:36:16 yes, that's true. 21:36:26 plus SOAP is a nice bullent point :) 21:36:30 and .NET purpotedly provides a framework for building such apps 21:36:39 but i think that things like dreamweaver are nice. 21:36:41 nicer 21:37:12 Possible for building templates and HTML, but not as writing tool. 21:37:28 but i don't know if he wants to GPL the stuff... 21:37:49 do you think that nssoap is a mature module (lacking docs, of course)? do you think it's a solid piece of work? 21:38:01 scott goodwin seems like a very good guy, so i assume it's decent 21:39:30 I might not be qualified to judge it :) its better than the XMLRPC stuff I hacked together. 21:39:46 :) 21:40:15 It is built on top of TclSOAP which I think is a good package. 21:40:23 cool 21:40:42 what is the difference between extending AOLserver with Tcl or with C? 21:40:54 is it speed? why would a developer choose one over the other? 21:41:08 Probably just speed AFAIK. 21:41:21 i see. 21:41:30 run-time speeed, and development speed 21:41:31 NSSoap uses tclSoap tcl package, plus nsexpat and nstcldom C AOLserver modules. 21:41:40 tcl is *much* easier to work with than C 21:41:46 also more access to underlying structures with c. 21:42:10 enough rope to hang yourself with, so to speak ;) 21:42:11 So the gnarly XML and DOM stuff is in C. with the easy stuff in Tcl. 21:42:23 ah, that sounds like the right appraoch :) 21:43:18 Time to go to a b-day party. I might be back later. :) 21:43:29 enjoy! 22:05:06 markd2 has quit ("Bork") 22:14:33 talilee has left #openacs 23:06:02 abbaJ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:11:03 abbaJ (~jabba@adsl-65-67-61-34.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) has joined #openacs