00:01:06 argh. 00:01:16 I can't send messages from MUTT under cygwin. 00:01:18 darn. 00:02:21 tils has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:08:49 http://unixmail-w32.sourceforge.net/ 00:08:49 A: http://unixmail-w32.sourceforge.net/ from davb 00:09:26 argh! Chump finally rolled to the next day. we never made it to Z :( 00:09:38 A: UNIXMail for Windows 00:09:38 commented item A 00:12:46 davb has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.5 [Mozilla rv:0.9.7/20011221]") 00:13:02 denshi (~chatzilla@adsl-216-62-223-193.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) has joined #openacs 00:13:34 loggy, where is markd2? 00:15:51 I'm logging. I found 1 answer for 'where is markd2' 00:15:53 0) 2002-01-24 00:13:34 loggy, where is markd2? 00:16:07 denshi has quit (Client Quit) 00:33:51 anyone tried sapdb? 00:55:09 davb (~chatzilla@alb-24-58-160-239.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 00:55:22 davb has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:56:09 davb (~chatzilla@alb-24-58-160-239.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 01:32:03 markd2 (~Snak@166.102.30.119) has joined #openacs 01:44:17 vinod (~vinod@18.61.1.87) has joined #openacs 01:47:19 jim (~jim@12-233-187-5.client.attbi.com) has joined #openacs 01:47:34 hi guys 01:47:40 hiya... 01:48:49 I'm looking to find out if anyone knows how I can get a copy of the problem set 4 pdf of aduni SICP? 01:49:22 I never downloaded them. its not at aduni.org? 01:49:33 well, it's not linked from there 01:49:40 ah. 01:50:14 and it's not in the dir with the others... 01:51:05 thought I'd go for ps5, hmm, not sure if it's tacklable without ps4 01:52:27 I guess I could contact the instructor... 01:53:46 that is weird. 01:53:57 did you get the whole file set from aduni.org? 01:54:41 jim: that is interesting. you could grab the solutions file and try to figure out what the questions were - kinda like jeopardy :-) 01:55:57 davb: I ordered it; the drive hasn't arrived 01:56:05 aha. 01:56:16 I was wondering if they just forgot to link it into the page... 01:57:59 I tried a wget on it, replacing the number with 5, not found... so it's not in the dir (if they're using something like apache, where it would get served if it's in the dir 02:00:40 hmm, seems like it's a standard MIT pset 02:02:03 Probably is. I couldn't tell. 02:05:08 I think it's Picture Language; I think I found it 02:05:45 talli has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02:13:13 davb has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:15:43 davb (~chatzilla@alb-24-58-160-239.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 02:19:33 arghargharghargh 02:23:37 I am doomed to only use Outlook express in windows.... 02:24:33 :-( 02:26:11 that's your punishment for using windows :-) 02:30:18 heh 02:30:51 hopefully I can get some $$$ out of this project and get a new iMac, of course then I need a $600 photoshop... 02:31:15 can your windows license transfer over? 02:32:49 I don't think so. That would be nice, but I am not betting on it. 02:33:09 Actually I forgot, I need to wait until Photoshop for OS X is available anyway. 03:17:28 talli (talli@lti-4.dialup.access.net) has joined #openacs 03:17:42 hey guys 03:17:57 hi 03:26:04 talli has left #openacs 03:41:02 bye talli 03:41:15 hey davb what happened to the creature? 03:45:42 oh, I was running it in an ssh session and I closed it :) 03:45:52 now I am in windows. 03:47:37 I want to see if it can do a weblog like chump, or something similar anyway. Actually that can be used to build a knowledge base thingy if you give it terms instead of URLs. 03:49:13 tomorrow I'll get it running on the server. Then the logs and stuff will be available. 04:00:17 bye 04:00:19 davb has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.5 [Mozilla rv:0.9.7/20011221]") 04:20:57 vinod has quit ("changing universes") 04:41:24 markd2 has quit ("Bork") 04:45:26 talli (talli@talli.dialup.access.net) has joined #openacs 06:43:51 dlk (dlk@garrison.ita.chalmers.se) has joined #openacs 08:07:37 djg (~dirk@212.84.246.68) has joined #openacs 08:26:03 hazmat has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 08:29:09 dlk has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:29:20 dlk (dlk@garrison.ita.chalmers.se) has joined #openacs 08:32:42 hazmat (~ender@adsl-66-123-57-58.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) has joined #OpenACS 09:07:02 docwolf has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:11:22 dlk has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:18:07 dlk (dlk@garrison.ita.chalmers.se) has joined #openacs 12:21:14 dlk is now known as dlk-feeding 13:21:36 dlk-feeding is now known as dlk 13:28:36 markd2 (~Snak@r-41.191.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 14:03:48 markd2 has quit ("Bork") 14:08:39 markd2 (~markd2@r-41.191.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 14:56:22 davb (~dave@cm-208-136-23-203.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 15:03:16 hello! 15:21:28 hiya 15:22:18 * markd2 is working with a 19 minute latency 15:26:30 dlk is now known as dead-man-walking 15:47:00 dead-man-walking is now known as dmw 15:48:27 dmw is now known as dlk 15:50:20 dlk is now known as dead-man-walking 15:51:20 dead-man-walking is now known as dlk 16:14:02 tils (tils@port-212-202-128-200.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 16:39:55 [Global Notice] Hi all. Due to sponsor commitments we will need to do some rerouting in a few minutes. One main rotation, a European hub and a couple of small servers will be affected. They'll split and rejoin. Apologies for the inconvenience. 16:40:13 xemacs5 (patrick@205.247.253.73) has joined #openacs 16:40:41 hello, any OACS4 folks here ? 16:41:06 Sure, go ahead :) 16:43:52 ok, am wondering if there is already a proc that lets me check if a user is a member of a particular group 16:44:02 for instance, on page visit 16:44:18 set user_id [ad_conn user_id] 16:44:28 right. hold on... 16:45:08 if { [ member_group_p $user_id "Group name"] } etc. 16:45:28 xemacs5: last time i looked this was not implemented 16:45:48 I think I can easily write such a function 16:45:53 I have the sql to do it 16:45:57 the function's definition is there, but no code in it 16:46:11 cool, the sdm is happily awaiting your patch ;-) 16:46:24 but was hoping to avoid a performance hit with an SQL query on each page load 16:46:31 right its not in there that I can see. 16:47:00 you could util_memoize it 16:47:09 maybe I could stick member/group info into an nsv shared variable and expire it every 10 minutes 16:47:22 right, you understand what I am saying about that 16:48:52 hmm, maybe it would be best to cache information on a user by user basis 16:49:21 so that if a user is a member of many groups the speedup would apply to everything 16:51:18 you say you have the sql to determine group membership - does that deal with composition_rels etc.? (i am still trying to understand that stuff) 16:52:30 tils: I think it does, it is a modified version of the SQL that Tom Jackson posted about in the OACS4 Design forum a day or so ago 16:54:52 the composition_rels stuff I have found to be a little confusing 16:55:30 confusing it definitely is, esp. with the current lack of documentation 16:55:45 however we created (on our test server) a group, then a subgroup and added a user to the subgroup but not the main group 16:55:48 talli has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16:56:29 [Global Notice] Okay folks. We will now have a major netsplit and join to fix that sponsor problem, followed by a couple more smaller ones. Please bear with us. 16:57:00 xemacs5 has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 16:57:00 jim has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 16:57:00 shagster has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 16:57:53 xemacs5 (patrick@205.247.253.73) has joined #OpenACS 16:57:53 jim (~jim@12-233-187-5.client.attbi.com) has joined #OpenACS 16:57:53 shagster (~mkovach@web1.alal.com) has joined #OpenACS 17:00:28 so your group_member_p query is able to determine membership via subgroup? (maybe your answer was lost in the netsplit) 17:02:50 shagster has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:02:50 xemacs5 has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:02:50 jim has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:04:04 xemacs5 (patrick@205.247.253.73) has joined #OpenACS 17:04:04 jim (~jim@12-233-187-5.client.attbi.com) has joined #OpenACS 17:04:04 shagster (~mkovach@web1.alal.com) has joined #OpenACS 17:04:07 dlk is now known as dlk-afk 17:29:57 davb has quit () 17:39:44 davb (~dave@cm-208-136-23-203.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 17:44:27 * davb emails the NSSoap guy. 17:57:57 anyone here beat on the edit-this-page (ETP) stuff yet? got opinions on it? 17:58:29 it is a great system. 17:58:42 Someone is working on UI enhancements right now. 17:59:08 I really like the way it can be extended. 17:59:30 I want something that works like that for user submitted content. 17:59:53 So I can build a custom type with attributes and let visitors suggest items. 17:59:55 can it not be used for user submitted content right now? 18:00:22 Not in that way. If you give write permission to the public, then anyone can edit anyone elses submission. 18:00:36 This would have to make each submission the property of the sumbitter. 18:00:38 * markd2 laughs demonically 18:00:51 so it could support classified ads, job postings etc. 18:01:09 markd2: playing baldur's gate again? 18:02:17 not since sunday 18:02:25 gotta keep away from it during the 'work' week 18:02:44 ah. 18:02:59 http://www.macscripter.net/unscripted.html 18:03:00 B: http://www.macscripter.net/unscripted.html from davb 18:03:14 B:|Applescript Saves a Stolen iMac 18:03:14 titled item B 18:05:17 did chump get past Z yesterday? 18:06:54 nope, it reset after X. 18:07:01 to the next day 18:07:40 bummer 18:07:57 one of these days we need to have a "stuff loggy with lame links" and see what happens 18:08:00 er, stuff chump 18:08:06 rubber baby chumpy stuffers 18:09:09 I could probably look at the code, but that wouldn't be as much fun 18:10:40 talli (~user@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #openacs 18:15:26 wohoo! 18:15:32 I am #1 on google for dave bauer 18:15:56 I put my name on every chump page for that a couple hundred pages. 18:17:32 movin' up in the world... 18:17:51 there was some dorky real estate agent there. I had to get rid of him. 18:20:31 bbiab - lunch 18:25:48 Did you ever work at a small startup in Northern Virginia? 18:29:40 back, me? nope 18:35:50 I never picked up your last name 'til now 18:36:00 I worked with a Dave Bauer back in virginia many moons ago 18:37:37 Ah. 18:47:01 dlk-afk is now known as dlk 18:50:13 davb has quit () 18:58:55 hazmat has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 18:59:36 hazmat (~ender@adsl-66-123-57-58.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) has joined #openacs 19:00:42 the_docwolf (~docwolf@adsl-21-207-214.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #openacs 19:23:59 good morning/afternoon 19:24:38 markd2 has quit ("Bork") 19:35:00 vinod (~vinod@207-172-97-224.s224.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com) has joined #openacs 19:51:47 hello vinod 19:53:06 hi xemacs5 19:57:17 hello vinod, how are you? 19:57:31 hi everybody 19:57:48 I was asking earlier about OACS4 and groups 19:58:17 whether there is a proc that will let you determine if smoeone is a member of a particular group 19:58:28 the consensus was that there is not 19:58:33 hmmm... don't know off the top of my head 19:58:45 consensus around here is usually pretty good :-) 19:58:54 i'll look though 19:59:07 ok, will work on writing a little proc to do just that 19:59:24 group_member_p or whatnot :-) 20:00:38 question for the group 20:00:41 this is a toughy 20:01:02 anyone have experience working with barcode scanners? 20:01:23 (beyond the cue-cat, of course..) 20:01:50 xemacs5: acs_group__member_p in /acs-kernel/sql/postgresql/groups-body-create.sql 20:02:32 the body of the function goes like this: "-- TO DO: implement this for real" 20:02:53 sigh 20:03:21 same in the oracle version 20:04:15 tils: ouch 20:05:39 the_docwolf: sorry - no experience here. you setting up a warehouse for your health *ahem* drinks? ;-) 20:05:40 davb (~dave@cm-208-136-23-203.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 20:05:49 hehe 20:05:52 "drinks". 20:05:55 muahaha 20:06:10 actually, a friend here is trying to convince me to open a GH clinic. 20:07:54 GH? 20:08:06 drinks? 20:11:00 the_docwolf: we're supposed to eventually look at barcode integration stuff. my sense is that it's not such a terrible thing to put together. at least from my initial indications 20:11:19 talli: you guys are into everything! 20:11:20 well, i need to find someone who can point me to hardware 20:11:30 that will play nice with an open solution 20:11:52 you should speak with john sequeira. he knows everything about everything 20:11:57 johnseq@pobox.com 20:12:05 really? 20:12:56 yes indeed. if he doesn't know about this thing, he can help you find someone or something that does 20:13:18 cool 20:13:19 he's also the best person, that we've found, to do something heavy and weird in a short time. he's really great 20:13:43 (http://www.pobox.com/~johnseq 20:18:01 the_docwolf: I have set up barcode readers for a client; what knid of info are you looking for? 20:20:07 concerning hardware, basically you plug it into the keyboard port and when you scan the barcode it just "looks" like it was typed in 20:41:22 markd2 (~markd2@r-41.83.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 20:49:39 the_docwolf has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:51:47 connection reset by beer 20:52:53 mmmm beer 20:56:54 http://www.chilliman.com/beer_labels_frame.htm 20:56:54 C: http://www.chilliman.com/beer_labels_frame.htm from davb 20:56:59 C:|Guess the beer label 20:56:59 titled item C 20:57:10 C: I only got 3 I think... 20:57:11 commented item C 21:03:09 i got 4, but now i'm really thirsty 21:03:44 sorry :( 21:08:39 http://www.silicon.com/bin/bladerunner?30REQEVENT=&REQAUTH=21046&14001REQSUB=REQINT1=50470 21:08:39 D: http://www.silicon.com/bin/bladerunner?30REQEVENT=&REQAUTH=21046&14001REQSUB=REQINT1=50470 from davb 21:08:48 D:|GPS Bearing Watch Finds the nearest pub 21:08:48 titled item D 21:08:55 I got 4 too 21:09:30 now if i could taste them first, .... 21:12:05 I probably posted this before or something similar, but they have a new web site 21:12:06 http://www.ldraw.org/ 21:12:07 E: http://www.ldraw.org/ from davb 21:12:07 D: Now, this is technology put to good use 21:12:08 commented item D 21:12:21 D:|LDraw Resources, Lego drawing software 21:12:21 titled item D 21:17:23 oops - i think you titled the wrong one 21:17:38 yep 21:17:49 E:|LDraw Resources, Lego drawing software 21:17:49 titled item E 21:17:54 D: oops 21:17:55 commented item D 21:18:07 D:|GPS Bearing Watch Finds the nearest pub 21:18:31 D:|GPS Bearing Watch Finds the nearest pub 21:18:31 titled item D 21:18:35 ah fixed it. 21:18:36 thanks 21:18:37 time to go 21:18:40 davb has quit () 21:24:09 the_docwolf (~docwolf@adsl-21-215-24.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #openacs 22:13:46 xemacs5 has quit ("ircII+tkirc2") 22:20:04 markd2 has quit ("Bork") 22:22:49 markd2 (~Snak@r-41.83.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 22:45:20 the_docwolf has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 22:45:20 shagster has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 22:45:20 jim has 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