00:06:28 markd2 has quit ("Bork") 00:13:44 hazmat: you can usually buy a cd with that stuff, or get a subscription to one, if the client needs it. 00:36:21 argh. 00:37:06 Can anyone recommend something else for a couple of domains with virtual domains (email addresses don't have to be users) IMAP and POP3? 00:47:07 docwolf has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 00:54:30 ElectricElf (david@HSE-Toronto-ppp97548.sympatico.ca) has joined #openacs 00:54:30 Moo. 00:54:31 Hi Elf... 00:54:31 Hey jim, what's up? 00:54:44 chump has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:55:23 lessee... 00:56:03 http://aduni.org 00:56:30 Heh, ArsDigita :) 00:56:30 hmmm ... no chump? 00:57:31 trying to demo that chumpy thing :P 00:58:55 jim: So? :) 00:58:56 should be right back... 00:58:56 ok... 00:59:02 hmm, no ping reply 00:59:02 Ah, chump's a bot eh? 00:59:02 yeah 00:59:03 Cool. 00:59:03 docwolf (~docwolf@adsl-21-207-214.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #OpenACS 00:59:07 I restarted it. 00:59:20 chump (~chump@alb-24-58-160-41.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 00:59:20 ah 00:59:22 chump view 00:59:22 ok, elf... check this out 00:59:22 Will do. 00:59:22 * ElectricElf waits 00:59:22 http://aduni.org 00:59:23 A: http://aduni.org from jim 00:59:32 chump has quit (Killed (tolkien.openprojects.net (zelazny.openprojects.net <- forward.openprojects.net))) 00:59:32 chump (~chump@alb-24-58-160-41.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 00:59:32 chump has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:59:33 Well, I get the idea ;) 00:59:34 jim: You think non-prefixed addressing could work in a channel like #debian? 00:59:34 no, definitely not 00:59:34 Ahh :) 00:59:34 I didn't think so either. 00:59:35 So, the moral? :) Enlighten me, I'm slow. 00:59:35 chump (~chump@alb-24-58-160-41.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 00:59:35 but the thing about chump is that the links get added to an sql 00:59:35 Aaaah... 00:59:36 they do? :) 00:59:36 lemme see if he still remembers the link 00:59:36 http://aduni.org 00:59:36 B: http://aduni.org from ElectricElf 01:00:16 A: 01:00:16 http://aduni.org is a web site 01:00:16 C: http://aduni.org from ElectricElf 01:01:15 http://aduni.org 01:01:44 A:|ArsDigita university's alumnus' 01:01:44 titled item A 01:02:36 it stuffs the URLs into an XML file. it does not remember them after it rolls the file at the end of the day. 01:02:36 jim: Without a way to associate data with a link(in the form of an explanation), it needs 01:02:36 There it is. :) 01:03:37 A: 01:03:37 http://aduni.org 01:03:37 ArsDigita university's alumnus' 01:03:37 A:|ArsDigita university's alumnus' site 01:03:37 titled item A 01:03:37 A: 01:03:37 http://aduni.org 01:03:37 ArsDigita university's alumnus' site 01:03:38 oic 01:03:38 jim: That can be a useful feature. 01:03:38 jim: I would tend to prefer the use of factoids, though, in the form of a url. 01:03:38 (like a factoids which was named "http://aduni.org") 01:03:40 Well all the XML is there, it could be made to look in it :) 01:03:40 that behavior could be altered to directly post to an sql, and a web site could show the link in some pretty form, forexample... you were /noticed by chanserv when you joined, take a look at that 01:03:40 then open up the blog url 01:03:40 Just did ;) 01:03:40 Okay, now, that's somewhat useful. 01:03:40 so that's what chump/blog does 01:03:40 What I would do, though, would be to query the SQL factoid database for all factoids which start with http:// and work from there. 01:03:40 thanks guys :) 01:03:40 there is XSLT magic on the server to generate the pages. 01:03:40 np 01:04:27 ElectricElf has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: Elf_!david@HSE-Toronto-ppp97548.sympatico.ca))) 01:11:05 docwolf has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01:14:56 docwolf (~docwolf@adsl-21-207-214.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #OpenACS 01:41:53 davb has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01:41:53 Psychephylax has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01:41:53 hazmat has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01:45:08 davb (~chatzilla@alb-24-58-160-239.nycap.rr.com) has joined #OpenACS 01:45:08 Psychephylax (proxy@ool-18bd7775.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #OpenACS 01:45:08 hazmat (~ender@adsl-66-123-57-58.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) has joined #OpenACS 01:45:24 talli (talli@lti-4.dialup.access.net) has joined #openacs 01:47:18 docwolf has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01:50:28 docwolf (~docwolf@adsl-21-207-214.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #OpenACS 01:51:31 hi everyone 01:51:31 hi 01:53:10 hey jim 01:53:10 how's your nsperl project coming along? 01:54:22 I looked at it about a week ago... 01:54:26 you should speak with todd gillespie (or denshi as he is known around here) 01:54:26 he's building nsruby 01:54:27 dunno if you guys would combust upon breathing the same air though, since he thinks that ruby is a better perl and you may think that ruby is a bastardized perl 01:54:27 but i think that you're both tryin' to do the same thing 01:58:24 docwolf has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01:58:24 Psychephylax has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01:58:24 davb has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01:58:24 hazmat has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01:58:24 talli has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01:58:24 chump has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01:58:24 beattiek has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01:58:24 jim has quit (adams.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 02:01:43 docwolf (~docwolf@adsl-21-207-214.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #OpenACS 02:01:43 talli (talli@lti-4.dialup.access.net) has joined #OpenACS 02:01:43 hazmat (~ender@adsl-66-123-57-58.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) has joined #OpenACS 02:01:43 Psychephylax (proxy@ool-18bd7775.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #OpenACS 02:01:43 davb (~chatzilla@alb-24-58-160-239.nycap.rr.com) has joined #OpenACS 02:01:43 chump (~chump@alb-24-58-160-41.nycap.rr.com) has joined #OpenACS 02:01:43 beattiek (beattiek@bmhd25b1y14ha.bc.hsia.telus.net) has joined #OpenACS 02:01:43 jim (~jim@12-233-187-5.client.attbi.com) has joined #OpenACS 02:01:56 [#OpenACS] This channel is logged: http://www.blogspace.com/openacs/chatlogs/ and blogged: http://www.thedesignexperience.org/openacs/ircblog 03:56:51 hey 03:56:55 who's awake? 04:56:20 hmmm 05:08:38 hi 05:12:09 Hey 05:12:11 look who's awake 05:12:12 lol 05:12:16 It's mista dave 05:12:18 *sigh* 05:12:24 my clock on this computer is fast 05:12:29 it's off by 15 minutes 05:12:33 brb 05:16:20 bah 05:16:29 anyone know how to adjust the time properly? 05:19:31 yay 05:29:05 oh well, dave went to bed 05:29:07 so will I 06:43:37 dlk (dlk@garrison.ita.chalmers.se) has joined #openacs 06:47:59 look into ntp 08:14:30 dlk is now known as dlk-afk 09:32:13 dlk-afk is now known as dlk 09:57:21 dlk is now known as dead-man-walking 10:49:41 dead-man-walking has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:49:44 dlk (dlk@garrison.ita.chalmers.se) has joined #openacs 13:26:21 til (tils@A9ff8.pppool.de) has joined #openacs 13:46:50 dlk is now known as dead-man-walking 13:46:50 til has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:17:20 dead-man-walking has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:26:35 dlk (dlk@garrison.ita.chalmers.se) has joined #openacs 15:29:24 vinod (~vinod@207-172-102-192.s446.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com) has joined #openacs 15:48:44 Morning everyone 15:48:45 vinod has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:49:45 :-D 15:49:50 * Psychephylax kicks Davew 15:49:56 c/Davew/Dave 16:00:32 vinod (~vinod@63.159.93.19) has joined #openacs 16:00:32 shagster has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:01:02 til (tils@port-212-202-128-200.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 16:04:10 hey vinod 16:04:41 hey Psychephylax 16:04:48 :) 16:04:52 how goes the ACS world? 16:05:18 round and round 16:05:22 lol 16:05:24 won't let me off :-) 16:05:34 how goes the post-grad world? 16:05:51 Eh 16:05:53 crappy? 16:05:55 Need a job 16:05:59 dlk is now known as dlk-feeding 16:06:24 me too 16:07:24 just got a spam message from a physician recruiter trying to get me to go to western illinois 16:07:54 Quincy, IL was rated as the 57th best small "arts" town. 16:08:34 who would advertise that they were 57th best? 16:08:36 lol 16:12:26 dlk-feeding is now known as dlk 16:18:00 talli_ (talli@lti-4.dialup.access.net) has joined #openacs 16:18:18 talli_ has quit (Client Quit) 16:18:56 hey everyone 16:18:59 happy MLK day 16:19:11 for those of you interested in rememberance... 16:19:11 http://www.stanford.edu/group/King/ 16:19:11 D: http://www.stanford.edu/group/King/ from talli 16:19:23 hey talli 16:20:37 the biggest dragonfly i've ever seen in my life is sitting on my patio. 16:20:38 and i am afraid. 16:23:09 this place must have been built on top of a nuclear waste dump, or something. 16:23:43 haha 16:24:07 just think - you could have superpowers in a few years 16:24:19 hehe 16:24:24 call me wolverine 16:24:31 lol 16:53:38 markd2 (~Snak@r-41.68.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 16:56:43 denshi (~chatzilla@adsl-216-62-223-193.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) has joined #openacs 17:07:59 Would my hubris rise too high if I were to design a new language? 17:08:27 denshi: yes. a lot 17:08:34 loggy, how was your weekend? 17:09:01 I'm logging. I found 1 answer for 'how was your weekend' 17:09:02 0) 2002-01-21 17:08:34 loggy, how was your weekend? 17:09:06 But is super mutant hubris a bad thing, necessarily? 17:09:34 loggy took me out on the town this weekend. i was his wingman. i learned alot from observing his ways with the women. 17:09:54 heh 17:10:01 go ahead and design a new language 17:10:04 it'd be cool 17:10:50 denshi: you're hubris quotient would not go up due to the languae per se 17:11:24 but because of the true motivation of such an endeavor: a pathological desire to develop a greenspun-esque cult that would refer to you as "Gilly" 17:12:24 hahahaaaaa rotflmao 17:13:01 * vinod starts searching for a winnebago for denshi 17:16:21 dragonfly is still out there. mocking me. 17:16:58 * denshi mocks docwolf. 17:17:17 does the dragonfly have a name? 17:17:40 * vinod thinks docwolf has been drinking too much of his health drinks 17:18:40 does it have a little japanese boy in liederhosen with him who is capable of telepathic communication with the mutant flying monster? perhaps the child is arguing with a cabal of government scientists intent upon turning the dragon fly into a powerful military weapon? 17:18:52 isn't that what happens in boca? 17:19:43 ciao ciao ciao 17:20:25 * talli is away: paranoia 17:23:41 dlk has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:38:24 * denshi is adding widely disperate items to his amazon wishlist. He is trying to snap amazon's little mind. 17:39:17 * denshi thinks that with enough bizarre items, he can construct the personalization engine Unity Vector. 17:40:37 so is anyone still here, and has a fetish for languages? 17:41:53 I'm still here 17:42:03 but I don't have a lanaguage fetish 17:42:21 it's Mark 17:42:23 everyone hide 17:42:53 I've sketched out a design for a language with explicit multi-user constructs. 17:43:37 If you consider language design to be an exercise in controlling what a programmer can write, I want to design a language that controls MU permissions violations. 17:45:22 It's probably not a workable scheme, but it'd be nice to put the idea in the field. 17:45:28 interesting 17:45:33 puts a new spin on the whole language concept 17:46:56 has anyone ever seen a language like that? 17:47:11 I looked and looked but never saw anything like that. 17:50:04 shagster (~mkovach@web1.alal.com) has joined #openacs 17:51:28 it steps beyond the traditional bounds of what a language is 17:53:09 I like languages extending their bounds. 17:53:27 Paul Graham pointed out that Perl is useful in the larger sense for two reasons: 17:53:55 1) it broke all the rules, and found some cool ideas in the resulting mess. 17:54:46 2) before, a language was just a spec. Now it's a spec, a free high quality interpreter, an active community, a large library, frequent updates, and extensive documentation. 17:54:58 ...and that's where the bar remains. 17:55:57 * markd2 bellies up to the bar 17:57:30 * denshi thinks it's time for the first guiness of the day. It is noon after all. 17:59:27 vinod, you awake? 17:59:40 * denshi is disconcerted that amazon is not collapsing as fast as he had hoped. He was hoping to find the equivalent error message as from the C bounds checker, lint, "lint's little mind is blown." 18:00:02 I never really liked lint 18:00:05 gcc -Wall was much better 18:00:37 gcc never had entertaining error messages. 18:00:48 Apple's MPW C had the best error messages 18:01:21 http://www.ralentz.com/old/mac/humor/mpw-c-errors.html 18:01:21 E: http://www.ralentz.com/old/mac/humor/mpw-c-errors.html from markd2 18:01:36 E:| Real error messages from the Mac MPW C compiler 18:01:36 titled item E 18:01:44 djg has left #openacs 18:01:56 I got the "too many errors on one line (make fewer)" all too often 18:02:08 cute. I like the errors that come out of the Perl config & install. 18:37:22 denshi has quit () 18:42:23 [Global notice] Hi all. Ongoing network announcements may be found on WALLOPS, including a pending request for assistance with the dancer-ircd code base. 18:43:30 [Global notice] To see wallops, one of the following commands may be used, depending on your client: "/umode +w", "/mode +w", "/quote mode +w", "/raw mode +w" .... thanks. 18:56:04 til has quit ("Disconnecting") 18:57:21 * talli is no longer away 19:06:32 djg (~dirk@212.84.246.68) has joined #openacs 19:10:21 Hey hey hey who's awake? 19:10:22 :-) 19:18:25 * Psychephylax wanders off again 19:41:30 I'm awake 19:42:46 heh 19:42:48 not I 21:16:12 talli_ (~user@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #openacs 21:26:19 talli_ has left #openacs 21:26:32 talli_ (~user@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #openacs 21:26:56 talli_ has quit ("See ya!") 21:33:21 talli: ok, I'll talk to todd 21:33:36 tnx 21:35:16 talli has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21:35:24 wheee 21:38:31 * vinod wakes up 21:38:39 did someone mention guinness? 21:39:05 mmmm... a pint of bread 21:39:14 * markd2 toured the Guinness factory in Dublin 21:39:40 cool! how was that? 21:40:31 pretty cool 21:40:38 the guinness tastes better in london than here, but i've never been to dublin 21:40:49 it was even better in dublin :-) 21:40:54 haha 21:41:00 they had the Tasting Room right before the Gift SHop 21:41:10 so you stagger bombed out of your skull and spend lots of money on junk 21:41:12 smart thinkers 21:41:12 very nicely done 21:42:41 we finally got some snow to play with here in bahstan 21:43:12 haven't seen any snowpeople that could match yours yet though 21:45:57 :-) 22:23:39 talli (~user@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #openacs 22:28:08 dlk (dlk@212.181.53.33) has joined #openacs 22:32:54 Hello 22:33:11 * davb returns from the Dinosaur Bar-B-Q 22:36:34 dlk has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:51:02 vinod has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:51:15 vinod (~vinod@207-172-97-132.s132.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com) has joined #openacs 23:11:24 markd2 has quit ("Bork") 23:28:59 anyone around? 23:49:41 hey 23:50:22 what is the command for compressing files? 23:50:32 gzip? 23:50:39 tar first though 23:50:42 hi beattiek :) 23:50:57 yes, but should there be a long and horrible cascade of gibberish once i do so? 23:51:21 no that I am aware of. UNIX commands return nothing if they are sucessful. 23:51:37 if it didn't like you command it will probably spit out the help. 23:51:47 yes, well i think that i may be destroying my server AND my desktop simply by typing gzip -z POH.tar 23:51:51 shouldn't that work/ 23:51:53 ? 23:52:02 yeah, I think so... 23:52:26 it should just go back to the prompt and POH.tar will disappear and be replaced by POH.tar.gz 23:52:59 anyway, thanks 23:53:16 i just needed to do gzip POH.tar 23:53:44 for some reason, though, it screwed things up earlier. oh well... next time i hopefully won't destroy anything 23:56:36 np.