IRC log of openacs on 2001-12-22

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00:00:50 [beattiek2]
thanks
00:00:57 [Psychephylax]
Works just like telnet
00:02:39 [beattiek2]
awsome
00:02:40 [beattiek2]
thanks
00:02:48 [Psychephylax]
no problemo
00:03:02 [Psychephylax]
And if you have an x-server you can actually run X apps remotely
00:03:31 [beattiek2]
thats cool
00:03:38 [beattiek2]
hmm
00:04:17 [Psychephylax]
?
00:04:25 [beattiek2]
nothing
00:04:37 [beattiek2]
i just think out loud sometimes...
00:04:49 [beattiek2]
it is cool that it can do that...
00:05:04 [beattiek2]
i'm just writing notes in my .plan file
00:05:36 [beattiek2]
i always have ideas, but i'm visiting with my family so i need to write them down from here.
00:06:22 [beattiek2]
Dave is frumple :P
00:06:56 [Psychephylax]
heh
00:06:56 [beattiek2]
did you hear about my web page idea.
00:07:00 [Psychephylax]
no
00:07:01 [Psychephylax]
:)
00:07:05 [Psychephylax]
Was busy screwing....
00:07:09 [beattiek2]
i see.
00:07:10 [Psychephylax]
....cables into the modem jacks
00:07:13 [Psychephylax]
;)
00:07:13 [beattiek2]
haha
00:07:25 [beattiek2]
realy, did you hear?
00:07:30 [Psychephylax]
no I did not hear
00:07:57 [beattiek2]
oh, well it is basicly just a community based web site like digitalcity.com
00:08:03 [beattiek2]
so not to clever
00:08:14 [beattiek2]
but i think it can be way better with OACS
00:08:54 [beattiek2]
and eventualy it would expand beond the point where it is just one network.
00:09:03 [Psychephylax]
heh
00:09:05 [Psychephylax]
have fun :)
00:09:17 [beattiek2]
and i have a million other ideas, that make it good.
00:09:44 [beattiek2]
and dave is apperantly doing something like this already, but with some other guy, and blah blah.
00:10:10 [beattiek2]
people always have comments like that...
00:10:17 [beattiek2]
it seems sarcastic.
00:10:22 [beattiek2]
they are like good luck...
00:10:27 [beattiek2]
have fun...
00:11:04 [Psychephylax]
I dunno
00:11:13 [beattiek2]
i guess it's just not interesting :)
00:11:13 [Psychephylax]
I'm not being sarcastic but it's a lot of shit to do
00:11:15 [Psychephylax]
brb...dinner
00:12:14 [beattiek2]
I guess people don't realy take me seriously, or they have heard alot of people say simmilar things and not do them.
00:19:44 [beattiek2]
...Or maybe people just arn't interested. I think the most interesting thing about the plan is that the web page will start as a tool to take imput from users, and then transform into a community based web page using a template.
00:21:23 [Psychephylax]
second one
00:21:31 [Psychephylax]
alot of people say simmilar things and not do them.
00:22:19 [beattiek2]
yeah
00:22:23 [beattiek2]
i can imagine :)
00:57:18 [beattiek2]
Psychephylax: what are you doing with OACS?
01:07:44 [davb]
davb (~dave@alb-24-58-160-135.nycap.rr.com) has joined #OpenACS
01:23:17 [davb]
hi beattiek2, beattiek
01:30:47 [Psychephylax]
hey dave
01:30:57 [davb]
Howdy Psychephylax!
01:34:15 [Psychephylax]
Dave, you play video games?
01:45:33 [davb]
not much why?
01:48:39 [beattiek2]
hey dave
01:49:12 [beattiek2]
the beattiek is just my box being idle, i'm visiting family
01:50:01 [davb]
aha :)
01:50:55 [beattiek2]
I've noticed i have ideas alot faster than i would be able to implement them :)
01:51:26 [beattiek2]
I find myself ssh'ing to my box when i'm supposed to be visiting family :)
01:52:15 [davb]
Me too.
01:52:37 [davb]
I use my weblog to keep track of them, or otherwise I email myself.
01:52:53 [beattiek2]
email yourself, thats kinda funny
01:53:07 [beattiek2]
i don't know why, but it is.
01:53:36 [beattiek2]
I just picture the old equivelent. writing down a note, and posting it to your house...
01:58:46 [beattiek2]
dave, if you go here: http://www.garvick.com/ it knows where you live, do you know what this page uses to know that?
01:59:15 [beattiek2]
It seems to be a low budget page, so i don't think they subscribe to an expensive service.
01:59:36 [davb]
it does? I have links for vancouver.
01:59:38 [davb]
:)
02:03:51 [Psychephylax]
heh
02:03:55 [Psychephylax]
Ever play Civ2?
02:04:27 [davb]
A little.
02:04:33 [beattiek2]
never mind
02:04:37 [beattiek2]
that is funny
02:04:53 [beattiek2]
I have played it alot psy
02:05:00 [davb]
Interesting. It looks like a US page, but it has just vancouver specific links and then everything else.
02:05:07 [beattiek2]
yeah
02:05:18 [beattiek2]
which made me think it was inteligent :P
02:05:24 [beattiek2]
since i live in vancouver.
02:06:01 [davb]
:)
02:07:39 [beattiek2]
I think when i become a company, it will be in Hong Kong or some other country freer (economicly) than US/Canada.
02:08:17 [beattiek2]
hmm, or maybe just california if i need the capitol/assistance that the venture capitolists can give me.
02:10:29 [beattiek2]
alright, i'm out. see you guys later.
02:11:06 [Psychephylax]
bye
02:21:00 [davb]
Psychephylax: you are playing civ2?
02:21:29 [davb]
I should try it one of these days. I kinda want to try the new empire earth.
02:24:54 [Psychephylax]
Yeah
02:25:22 [Psychephylax]
I should be programming something cool instead of playing games
02:33:10 [davb]
heh
02:33:13 [davb]
thats right.
02:33:46 [davb]
Try contributing to FreeCiv, programming and games!
02:35:30 [davb]
This is another cool idea:
02:35:32 [davb]
http://elvin.dstc.edu.au/
02:35:32 [chump]
E: http://elvin.dstc.edu.au/ from davb
02:35:46 [davb]
E:|Elvin - Content Based Messaging
02:35:47 [chump]
titled item E
02:39:01 [davb]
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5101014,00.html?chkpt=zdnn_nbs_hl
02:39:02 [chump]
F: http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5101014,00.html?chkpt=zdnn_nbs_hl from davb
02:39:12 [davb]
F:|ZDNet Story about Psychephylax's speakers
02:39:13 [chump]
titled item F
02:40:30 [davb]
F: Dell honored the price until the stock ran out...
02:40:30 [chump]
commented item F
03:08:21 [Psychephylax]
bahy
03:08:25 [Psychephylax]
I will puke
03:09:54 [Psychephylax]
I go sleep
03:10:26 [davb]
bye.
03:26:08 [Psychephylax]
wait
03:26:09 [Psychephylax]
you still here
03:26:12 [Psychephylax]
* Psychephylax pokes dave
03:27:12 [davb]
?
03:27:16 [Psychephylax]
Do me a favor
03:27:18 [Psychephylax]
go here
03:28:26 [davb]
ok
03:28:32 [Psychephylax]
there yet?
03:29:28 [davb]
yes
03:29:33 [Psychephylax]
ok
03:29:38 [Psychephylax]
see where it says Now from 1149$
03:29:47 [davb]
yep
03:29:58 [Psychephylax]
Help me find this price ;)
03:30:08 [davb]
heh. ok
03:30:10 [Psychephylax]
I click next a few times and I somehow get to a price of 2100$
03:31:09 [davb]
You have to select all the lowest options. I got it.
03:31:24 [Psychephylax]
Ok, navigate me
03:31:45 [davb]
XP Home, Works instead of Office...
03:32:18 [Psychephylax]
site not working
03:32:19 [davb]
16M video
03:32:20 [davb]
heh
03:32:26 [Psychephylax]
You're hogging all of their bandwidth
03:32:33 [davb]
heh
03:32:36 [davb]
I think not.
03:32:53 [davb]
here is my page, but I don't think it will work for you
03:33:23 [davb]
866Mhz processor
03:33:33 [davb]
14 inch display.
03:33:41 [davb]
Those are the options I checked.
03:33:46 [Psychephylax]
hold on
03:33:55 [Psychephylax]
You killed the internet you monster!
03:34:10 [davb]
I think dell found out its you....
03:35:08 [davb]
Psychephylax: check out this sometime
03:35:37 [davb]
http://netaid.org
03:35:37 [chump]
G: http://netaid.org from davb
03:36:20 [davb]
G:|Help a non-profit org with your Geek powers
03:36:21 [chump]
titled item G
03:36:33 [davb]
G: NetAid.org
03:36:33 [chump]
commented item G
03:37:02 [Psychephylax]
Will netAid help me get a new laptop?
03:37:36 [davb]
no. just a programming project or at least a web/db one.
03:38:36 [davb]
G: might be a good way to get experience as a web nerd
03:38:36 [chump]
commented item G
03:39:03 [davb]
Psychephylax: I am going to look for a car that costs less than your laptop tomorrow :)
03:39:59 [Psychephylax]
lol
03:40:41 [davb]
One guy put a hood scoop and spoiler on a Olds Delta 88...
03:40:47 [davb]
maybe I can get a picture :)
03:41:22 [Psychephylax]
lol
03:41:59 [Psychephylax]
What do you think of the laptop?
03:42:16 [Psychephylax]
Is there much of a difference between a 15 inch laptop monitor and a 14 inch monitor?
03:42:19 [davb]
Looks pretty good. Its better than my desktop machine.
03:42:23 [Psychephylax]
i know
03:42:24 [davb]
I think so yes.
03:42:28 [Psychephylax]
same here
03:42:50 [davb]
Also get more RAM (probably not from Dell though)
03:43:03 [Psychephylax]
I'd like to buy a laptop that's < 1000$ but it's fairly usable
03:43:10 [davb]
Tricky.
03:43:14 [Psychephylax]
I know
03:43:16 [davb]
Usable for?
03:43:16 [Psychephylax]
But doable
03:43:21 [Psychephylax]
compiling code
03:43:22 [docwolf]
docwolf (docwolf@sdn-ar-001flflauP161.dialsprint.net) has joined #openacs
03:43:27 [Psychephylax]
Running Office
03:43:30 [davb]
Definitely spring for the RAM
03:43:37 [davb]
REALY REALLY spring for the RAM
03:43:41 [Psychephylax]
yeah I know
03:43:45 [davb]
:)
03:43:56 [Psychephylax]
It's the things like....Pentium 3 vs. Celeron
03:44:00 [davb]
Docwolf you missed the Nazi reference yesterday.
03:44:01 [Psychephylax]
15 inch vs. 14 inch
03:44:21 [davb]
That was a P3 wasn;t it, even the 866Mhz one.
03:44:25 [Psychephylax]
10 gig vs 20gig vs 60 gig
03:44:29 [Psychephylax]
i know
03:44:31 [davb]
Compiling doesn't need a big screen :)
03:44:35 [Psychephylax]
hehe
03:44:41 [Psychephylax]
Dont' forget looking at pron!
03:44:54 [davb]
It has the external monitor hookup.
03:45:03 [Psychephylax]
Right
03:45:28 [Psychephylax]
Well, 15 vs 14 and P3 vs Celeron really make a big difference
03:46:05 [davb]
in price.
03:46:38 [davb]
"16:01:49 <beattiek> are they topic Nazis?
03:46:38 [davb]
"
03:46:42 [davb]
:)
03:47:06 [Psychephylax]
right, in price
03:48:24 [docwolf]
hi
03:48:35 [docwolf]
a nazi reference? damn
03:48:52 [davb]
referring to talli and rzolf no less.
03:48:58 [docwolf]
wow!
03:49:45 [Psychephylax]
damn it
03:49:55 [Psychephylax]
I wish I could get no OS and no Works
03:50:00 [Psychephylax]
That would save me another 100$ at least
03:50:22 [davb]
that would be nice.
03:50:43 [Psychephylax]
I wonder if they would sell me one like that
03:50:57 [davb]
Psychephylax: nothing in the closeouts?
03:51:05 [Psychephylax]
That's where I'm going next
03:51:08 [davb]
Aha.
03:51:10 [Psychephylax]
once dell.com starts working again
03:51:19 [Psychephylax]
You think it's ok to buy a refurbished dell?
03:51:38 [davb]
Sure, I think its ok for you to buy a refurbished dell.
03:51:40 [davb]
:)
03:51:44 [Psychephylax]
heh
03:51:46 [Psychephylax]
not helping :P
03:51:58 [Psychephylax]
What is your opinion of refurbished products anyhoo
03:52:07 [davb]
Psychephylax: dell.com works ok for me. You have the "difficult customer cookie"
03:52:17 [docwolf]
my primary machine
03:52:19 [docwolf]
for the past year
03:52:23 [docwolf]
has been a refurb
03:52:25 [davb]
haven't you read "the book"? PhilG explained how to do it...
03:52:27 [docwolf]
dell inspiron 8000
03:52:34 [Psychephylax]
That's what I want
03:52:38 [Psychephylax]
An Inspiron 8000
03:52:44 [docwolf]
it is a great machine
03:52:52 [docwolf]
a little heavy, but other than that
03:52:55 [docwolf]
it's great.
03:52:55 [Psychephylax]
docwolf yours has both a pointy stick and a touchpad, right?
03:53:00 [docwolf]
yup
03:53:03 [Psychephylax]
yeah
03:53:04 [Psychephylax]
I want that!
03:53:05 [Psychephylax]
lol
03:53:27 [Psychephylax]
i saw it on another interns Inspiron 8000 and I was like...I want me THAT!
03:53:30 [davb]
All latptops should come with built in support for logitech wireless mouse.
03:54:27 [davb]
Psychephylax: the refurbs are more than the one you looked at !!
03:54:33 [Psychephylax]
lol
03:54:45 [davb]
P3-700 10GB harddriver $1355
03:54:59 [davb]
wait, that has 256MB ram and CDRW...
03:54:59 [Psychephylax]
WHAT!?
03:55:04 [Psychephylax]
hehehehe
03:55:05 [docwolf]
the deal with the refurbs
03:55:14 [docwolf]
is that you've got to really look closely at what you are getting
03:55:23 [docwolf]
there are some excellent deals
03:55:27 [Psychephylax]
docwolf you know if all dell laptops have that combinations?
03:55:28 [docwolf]
also, the big issue with the i8000
03:55:30 [docwolf]
is the screen
03:55:38 [docwolf]
many of the screens didn't work right
03:55:43 [docwolf]
which is why they were returned
03:55:58 [docwolf]
so.. when you take delivery of a dell refurb
03:56:01 [docwolf]
look it over head to toe
03:56:11 [docwolf]
and if something isn't right, use your onsite warranty to the fullest.
03:56:18 [docwolf]
they will replace the entire screen
03:56:41 [Psychephylax]
You seem to know lots...wanna help me find a good laptop?
03:56:50 [Psychephylax]
I want to keep it under 1200$
03:56:50 [docwolf]
sure
03:56:53 [docwolf]
ok
03:56:59 [docwolf]
how much are the i8100's going for?
03:57:02 [docwolf]
too much?
03:57:02 [Psychephylax]
It's not a requirement that it's dell either
03:57:04 [davb]
good luck. I have to sleep...
03:57:15 [Psychephylax]
ok nite dave
03:57:16 [docwolf]
dell laptops are nice b/c
03:57:21 [docwolf]
l8r dave
03:57:28 [davb]
bye
03:57:30 [davb]
davb has quit ("I'm too lame to make a quit message")
03:57:36 [docwolf]
dell refurbs have a 3 yr warranty
03:57:48 [Psychephylax]
i want a basic laptop
03:57:51 [Psychephylax]
nothing fancy
03:58:01 [Psychephylax]
I would like to have a chance to at least try Linux on it
03:58:07 [docwolf]
right
03:58:17 [docwolf]
i have mandrake on my 8100
03:58:21 [docwolf]
er, 8000
03:58:23 [docwolf]
everything works
03:58:25 [docwolf]
except the modem
03:58:30 [Psychephylax]
And I want a monitor that I don't need a magnifying glass to see
03:58:44 [Psychephylax]
i don't need no stinken modem :-D
03:58:56 [docwolf]
hehe
03:59:06 [docwolf]
what else can i tell you
03:59:10 [docwolf]
the screen is tremendous
03:59:14 [docwolf]
i have the 1400x1050 one
03:59:16 [Psychephylax]
How big is it?
03:59:25 [docwolf]
15.1"
03:59:44 [docwolf]
they apparently had 2 manufacturers for the LCDs
03:59:48 [docwolf]
IBM and samsung
03:59:54 [docwolf]
the samsungs pretty much sucked
03:59:57 [docwolf]
the IBMs were solid.
03:59:59 [Psychephylax]
Heh
04:00:18 [Psychephylax]
What speed is yours
04:00:25 [Psychephylax]
how much did ya pay
04:00:26 [docwolf]
PIII/800
04:00:33 [docwolf]
honestly, i don't remember :-)
04:00:35 [docwolf]
it was about a year ago
04:00:38 [Psychephylax]
more than 1200$?
04:00:39 [docwolf]
i think...
04:00:40 [docwolf]
$1400
04:00:46 [docwolf]
with 256 megs/32 gigs
04:01:12 [Psychephylax]
damn
04:02:07 [Psychephylax]
Do you know if all dell laptops have both types of pointing devices?
04:02:28 [docwolf]
WTF
04:02:32 [docwolf]
have prices gone _up_ ?!
04:02:37 [Psychephylax]
something like that
04:02:42 [docwolf]
they all should have both kinds of pointing devices
04:02:57 [Psychephylax]
should != have
04:03:05 [docwolf]
that isn't the best configuration i've seen
04:03:10 [docwolf]
it's got the small screen
04:03:25 [Psychephylax]
That's why i was looking at Inspiron 2100's and 4000's
04:04:30 [docwolf]
can you get a used 8100?
04:04:58 [Psychephylax]
i dunno, can I?
04:05:10 [docwolf]
heh
04:05:10 [Psychephylax]
i think I'll have to hold off until after the holidays
04:05:18 [docwolf]
see if there any in stock
04:05:20 [Psychephylax]
I think that's probably why the prices are high
04:05:25 [docwolf]
yeah
04:05:42 [docwolf]
again, weight is the only issue with these dells
04:05:46 [docwolf]
it's like 11 lbs
04:05:56 [Psychephylax]
that's ok, I need to lose weight
04:06:25 [docwolf]
heh
04:06:43 [docwolf]
the other thing is
04:06:48 [docwolf]
make sure if you are getting 256megs
04:06:56 [docwolf]
that it's all on -1- DIMM
04:07:00 [docwolf]
so you'll have room to expand
04:07:26 [Psychephylax]
righ
04:07:32 [Psychephylax]
what's the deal with the screens?
04:07:51 [Psychephylax]
TFT, XGA, SXGA
04:08:00 [Psychephylax]
BLT, CNN, ABC :D
04:08:12 [docwolf]
heh
04:08:28 [docwolf]
XGA = 1400x1050
04:08:37 [docwolf]
sxga = 1600x1200
04:09:06 [Psychephylax]
I don't need sxga
04:09:21 [Psychephylax]
I want to run it at about 1280x1024 @ 85hz & 32bit
04:09:27 [docwolf]
well
04:09:28 [docwolf]
here's the issue
04:09:38 [docwolf]
you must run it at the screen's "native resolution"
04:09:41 [Psychephylax]
UXGA
04:09:42 [docwolf]
or else it looks horrible
04:09:48 [docwolf]
because it does interpolatio
04:09:50 [docwolf]
n
04:09:52 [Psychephylax]
native?
04:09:56 [docwolf]
right
04:10:01 [docwolf]
so.. each LCD has a "native resolution'
04:10:13 [docwolf]
like, my panel is stunning at 1400x1050
04:10:15 [Psychephylax]
well, as long as I can run it at more than 1024x768 I'm happy
04:10:19 [docwolf]
but anything else looks like total crap
04:10:44 [docwolf]
that's just how these things work.
04:11:42 [Psychephylax]
i also need a network card
04:11:52 [docwolf]
the 8000 has a built-in LAN card
04:11:55 [docwolf]
but you'll want a wireless
04:12:07 [Psychephylax]
I don't need a wireless, I have no WAP
04:12:14 [docwolf]
ok
04:12:23 [docwolf]
the built-in ethernet is good.
04:12:26 [docwolf]
works with linux, etc.
04:12:40 [docwolf]
that is one of the advantages of going with dell
04:12:44 [docwolf]
the machines are so common
04:12:51 [docwolf]
that everyone has figured out how to get linux to work
04:13:12 [docwolf]
also,
04:13:15 [docwolf]
dell is somewhat brave
04:13:25 [docwolf]
in that they have a "forum" set up on dell.com
04:13:30 [docwolf]
where customers can scream at them
04:13:33 [docwolf]
it's pretty wild.
04:13:33 [Psychephylax]
hehehe
04:13:38 [Psychephylax]
I don't need no stinken forum
04:13:47 [Psychephylax]
I had to call those fuckers up about my speakers
04:13:50 [Psychephylax]
I wasted 2 days
04:14:12 [Psychephylax]
They kept bumpling me off to different departments until I snapped and yelled at some phone monkey
04:16:21 [Psychephylax]
hmmm http://outlet.us.dell.com/Dispatcher?target=SpecPage&serviceTag=CNX4111&sessionID=2XX3RQ3FNGG10HB3HRVTAAA&tgtSeg=B
04:16:25 [Psychephylax]
or
04:21:15 [Psychephylax]
i wouldn't even mind having a P2 400 or 500 for like 350-400$
04:21:26 [docwolf]
ugh
04:21:27 [docwolf]
that's slow
04:22:10 [Psychephylax]
I use an Athlon 550 now
04:22:13 [Psychephylax]
It's not THAT slow
04:22:33 [docwolf]
i guess it depends on what you load on it :-)
04:22:53 [Psychephylax]
Exactly
04:25:56 [Psychephylax]
I'll wait after the holidays
04:26:04 [Psychephylax]
That's when they'll get a lot of returns :)
04:26:14 [Psychephylax]
mmm....inventory overstooock
04:33:55 [Psychephylax]
aha
04:34:04 [Psychephylax]
see, not all of them have the dual pointing device combo
04:34:15 [Psychephylax]
3800 did not have it
04:34:18 [docwolf]
hmm
04:36:12 [docwolf]
does freebsd suck?
04:36:18 [docwolf]
as a client machine?
04:36:43 [Psychephylax]
You mean as a desktop/
04:36:47 [docwolf]
yeah
04:37:48 [Psychephylax]
Depends on the hardware and what you look for in a desktop
04:37:57 [docwolf]
something that is stable
04:38:02 [docwolf]
that i can browse the web with
04:38:04 [docwolf]
and use staroffice
04:38:05 [Psychephylax]
oh it's stable alright
04:38:10 [Psychephylax]
11:47PM up 150 days, 15 hrs, 1 user, load averages: 1.00, 1.00, 0.93
04:38:14 [Psychephylax]
is that stable? ;)
04:38:16 [docwolf]
wow
04:38:34 [Psychephylax]
lol
04:38:39 [docwolf]
it's got good networking device support, right?
04:38:44 [Psychephylax]
yeah
04:39:11 [Psychephylax]
My biggest complaint with my (former) BSD install as a desktop was my soundcard
04:39:19 [Psychephylax]
it would just sometimes stop playing sounds
04:39:49 [Psychephylax]
And if you use BSD through a KVM it kinda sucks because it forgets the mouse settings or something (fixable)
04:39:58 [docwolf]
i see
04:40:00 [docwolf]
well
04:40:03 [docwolf]
this machine has no sound
04:40:43 [Psychephylax]
then you have no problem now do you
04:40:46 [Psychephylax]
:D
04:41:01 [Psychephylax]
* Psychephylax goes to make his "Will code for laptop" sign
04:43:53 [Psychephylax]
woohoo
04:44:03 [Psychephylax]
Reserved my spot for a career conference in NYC
04:47:35 [Psychephylax]
hmmm
04:47:43 [Psychephylax]
I am tempted to buy this laptop :/
04:48:32 [Psychephylax]
You still with the living?
04:53:18 [Psychephylax]
oh my god I killed kenny!
04:58:51 [Psychephylax]
Wooooooooohoooo!
04:58:52 [Psychephylax]
hehe
05:03:13 [Psychephylax]
docwolf you alive?
05:03:25 [docwolf]
yo
05:03:31 [docwolf]
sorry
05:03:34 [docwolf]
distracted heree
05:04:36 [docwolf]
can't get linux to install on this box. grrrr.
05:04:43 [Psychephylax]
awww
05:04:46 [Psychephylax]
Check it out
05:04:57 [Psychephylax]
i think I just got it
05:05:10 [Psychephylax]
Specs for a Dell Inspiron 8100
05:05:12 [Psychephylax]
New
05:05:15 [docwolf]
ok
05:05:22 [Psychephylax]
P3 - 1Ghz
05:05:32 [Psychephylax]
15" UXGA Screen
05:05:44 [Psychephylax]
my bad, SuperXGA 15"
05:05:56 [Psychephylax]
256MB RAM - 1 Dimm
05:06:10 [Psychephylax]
16MB DDR GeForce2 Go
05:06:15 [Psychephylax]
XP Home Edition
05:06:17 [docwolf]
:-)
05:06:18 [docwolf]
sounds good so far
05:06:23 [docwolf]
umm.. scratch the XP :-)
05:06:33 [Psychephylax]
10/100 + 56 Internal Mini PCI
05:06:37 [Psychephylax]
lol
05:06:46 [docwolf]
ok. same ethernet & modem as me
05:07:01 [Psychephylax]
8x Max Variable DVD Upgrade for XP (not sure if they mean it only runs under XP - I hope not)
05:07:16 [Psychephylax]
30 Gig Hard drive
05:07:40 [Psychephylax]
Modular Floppy drive
05:08:08 [Psychephylax]
Ms Works 2002..
05:08:18 [docwolf]
k
05:08:24 [docwolf]
sounds very similar to my machine
05:08:26 [Psychephylax]
1 year warranty
05:08:30 [docwolf]
but with a better vid card
05:08:50 [Psychephylax]
mail in service and 1 year phone support
05:08:54 [Psychephylax]
*drum roll*
05:08:58 [Psychephylax]
Price - 1450$
05:09:05 [docwolf]
excellent.
05:09:16 [Psychephylax]
Reason:
05:09:34 [Psychephylax]
Higher Edumication Studint Diskount
05:10:17 [Psychephylax]
Nearly identical system through their regular website: 1,657.00
05:10:21 [docwolf]
nice
05:10:25 [Psychephylax]
200$ savings
05:10:32 [Psychephylax]
I'm VERY tempted
05:10:46 [docwolf]
it's a nice machine
05:10:51 [docwolf]
that's all i can tell you :-)
05:10:57 [docwolf]
it replaced my desktop machine
05:11:05 [Psychephylax]
i have 3 desktops
05:11:16 [docwolf]
and i haven't missed the desktop machine at all.
05:11:56 [Psychephylax]
oops
05:11:58 [Psychephylax]
I made a mistake
05:13:00 [Psychephylax]
it's the same price through their regular site
05:13:16 [docwolf]
$1400?
05:13:22 [Psychephylax]
1557$
05:13:31 [docwolf]
ugh
05:13:36 [docwolf]
still
05:13:38 [Psychephylax]
hang on
05:16:26 [Psychephylax]
yeah 100$ difference
05:16:30 [Psychephylax]
I guess that's shipping
05:18:46 [Psychephylax]
i s'pose i have until the 3rd to figure out if i want to buy it or not
05:22:52 [Psychephylax]
Why the hell do they charge tax!
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08:55:29 [beattiek2]
Psychephylax: you around?
09:02:13 [beattiek2]
If you check this, where do i get information about individual packages?
15:24:18 [Psychephylax]
i am now
15:24:43 [Psychephylax]
ummm, you don't...That was one of my complaints with Roberto
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16:07:20 [Psychephylax]
hidly ho neighborino
16:08:17 [markd2]
greetings
16:08:57 [Psychephylax]
You ever read Kernigan and Ritchie's C book?
16:10:15 [markd2]
ages ago
16:14:36 [Psychephylax]
Good book?
16:15:16 [markd2]
not bad
16:15:24 [markd2]
kind of dry, if I recall correctly
16:15:35 [markd2]
I actually picked up more C info from the Wait Group's C primer plus
16:15:35 [Psychephylax]
it is
16:15:41 [markd2]
notet that this was 1988 or so
16:15:49 [Psychephylax]
but I think it's considered "The Book" for starting out with C
16:16:28 [markd2]
your college library probably has it - flip through it, see if it grabs ya
16:16:37 [markd2]
stay away from everything written by Herbert Schildt
16:16:42 [markd2]
his books are uniformly crap
16:18:34 [Psychephylax]
Which book?
16:18:43 [markd2]
any. he's written a bunch
16:19:00 [markd2]
many of which are cut-and-pastes of others
16:20:15 [Psychephylax]
no no, I mean what book should I look for in my library
16:20:21 [markd2]
K&R
16:25:19 [Psychephylax]
oh
16:25:21 [Psychephylax]
heh, I have it
16:25:28 [Psychephylax]
Textbook for our C & Unix course
16:25:33 [markd2]
ah
16:25:45 [markd2]
cool
16:26:48 [Psychephylax]
my next aquizition
16:27:33 [markd2]
cool
16:29:05 [Psychephylax]
bah
16:29:10 [markd2]
humbug
16:29:16 [Psychephylax]
those bastard mongonls stole Kiev from me
16:29:22 [Psychephylax]
* Psychephylax wants nuclear warfare
16:29:32 [markd2]
online game?
16:31:07 [Psychephylax]
Civ2
16:31:15 [markd2]
ah
16:31:21 [Psychephylax]
they'll get what's coming to them
16:31:23 [Psychephylax]
bastards
16:32:38 [Psychephylax]
i'm not a very militaristic ruler
16:32:51 [markd2]
I did entirely too much Civ1
16:33:03 [markd2]
usually I'd beat back the other races, and leave one guy in one pitiful city
16:33:05 [Psychephylax]
I go for science and cool toys like Hanging Gardens and the great wall
16:33:08 [markd2]
and then cover the entire world in railroads
16:34:12 [Psychephylax]
i want my city back
16:34:45 [markd2]
I forgot if civ1 had nukes
16:35:45 [Psychephylax]
Nooooo
16:35:51 [Psychephylax]
another city lost
16:36:17 [markd2]
sounds ungood for the Psychephylaxians
16:40:03 [Psychephylax]
I'm taking my stuff back
16:40:10 [Psychephylax]
* Psychephylax converts to Military mode
16:43:37 [Psychephylax]
ok that sucked
16:44:56 [Psychephylax]
they stole all my good cities
16:45:31 [markd2]
restore from a saved game and try again :-)
16:46:43 [Psychephylax]
lol
16:46:43 [Psychephylax]
No
16:46:48 [Psychephylax]
I fight until the bitter end
16:47:23 [Psychephylax]
my only hope is lots of howitzers
16:50:39 [markd2]
help me howiWanKenobi
16:52:52 [Psychephylax]
hehehehehe
16:53:50 [Psychephylax]
here goes my last city
16:54:10 [markd2]
whoop, there it is
16:56:51 [Psychephylax]
i'm toast
16:57:29 [markd2]
mmmm... toast...
16:58:42 [Psychephylax]
i will forever be known as Boomberg the Worthless :'(
16:59:38 [markd2]
heh
17:00:36 [Psychephylax]
i was kicking ass up until the point where I pissed them off by breaking the Cease fire
17:01:31 [Psychephylax]
* Psychephylax prepares to snipe the auction :-D
17:01:31 [markd2]
oopsie
17:03:44 [Psychephylax]
yup
17:03:47 [Psychephylax]
he's watching :)
17:04:06 [Psychephylax]
I do this often
17:04:20 [Psychephylax]
make a small bid to check if anyone else is sniping
17:04:21 [markd2]
bid on books?
17:04:26 [markd2]
what's sniping?
17:04:29 [Psychephylax]
wait until there's like 45 seconds and then snipe it
17:04:47 [Psychephylax]
hold on
17:04:52 [Psychephylax]
let me carry out the transaction
17:06:29 [Psychephylax]
Boooya
17:06:35 [Psychephylax]
Sniped from under the kids nose
17:06:37 [Psychephylax]
hahahaha
17:07:13 [Psychephylax]
i almost feel bad
17:07:35 [markd2]
you're range27 ?
17:07:54 [Psychephylax]
yep
17:08:07 [markd2]
qool
17:08:42 [Psychephylax]
sniping is auction slang
17:08:51 [Psychephylax]
at least in online auctions
17:09:08 [Psychephylax]
It's when you're watching the item within the last 5 minutes
17:09:24 [Psychephylax]
increases your chances of winning
17:09:55 [Psychephylax]
my strategy is to make a small bid at about 3 minutes to see if anyone else is watching
17:10:24 [Psychephylax]
If someone else is...such as this case....I wait until the last 20-30 seconds and place the max I'm willing to pay
17:10:43 [Psychephylax]
There is not enough time for them to place 3-4 bids to probe my highest bid
17:11:00 [Psychephylax]
So, I probably will win
17:11:13 [Psychephylax]
Unless, the person does the same and their amount is more than I am willing to pay
17:11:25 [Psychephylax]
I saw this book a week ago and decided to get it....:)
17:11:37 [Psychephylax]
So I placed my 9.50$ bid on the 21st
17:12:06 [Psychephylax]
Of course this person came and tried to outbid me...and he did..then he got outbid...And today, I was like...Time to make the donuts!
17:12:20 [Psychephylax]
My bid of 14..probed out the person :)
17:12:30 [Psychephylax]
waited until 20 seconds left...and bid 19.50$
17:12:46 [Psychephylax]
He made one bid...15.50$ before the auction ended
17:12:53 [Psychephylax]
Victory!! hehe...
17:12:57 [Psychephylax]
I wish I was this good in civ2
17:13:00 [markd2]
cool
17:14:09 [Psychephylax]
yup
17:14:17 [Psychephylax]
I decided
17:14:20 [Psychephylax]
I will learn C first
17:14:30 [Psychephylax]
you know of any programs that need writing?
17:16:08 [markd2]
nope
17:16:11 [markd2]
just that World Peace one
17:16:30 [Psychephylax]
lol
17:22:24 [Psychephylax]
you use Paypal at all?
17:22:31 [markd2]
nope
17:22:36 [markd2]
haven't had a need yet
17:24:07 [Psychephylax]
ah
17:24:21 [Psychephylax]
ok, I go scan the circulars for things to buy
17:24:23 [Psychephylax]
bbiab
17:35:25 [Psychephylax]
so bored
17:36:30 [markd2]
in that coase, track down davb for that intermedia gig :-)
17:36:59 [markd2]
I love finding errors in programming books
17:37:16 [markd2]
earlier I found a if (thing < 0 && thing > 255) { throw an error }
17:37:25 [markd2]
and now I'm fixing a race condition in an image filtering example
17:38:40 [Psychephylax]
heh
17:38:53 [Psychephylax]
No, I want to spend some time AWAY from my computer when I'm home
17:39:13 [markd2]
hence the games if Civ2 :-)
17:39:24 [Psychephylax]
?
17:39:48 [markd2]
playing games of civ2 while getting away from the pooter
17:39:56 [beattiek2]
:PP
17:40:05 [Psychephylax]
heh
17:46:43 [Psychephylax]
hmmmm
17:46:53 [Psychephylax]
Would you buy this Laptop
17:47:26 [Psychephylax]
Celeron 1Ghz, 13.3" TFT Active Matrix, 256MB RAM, 20 gig hard drive
17:47:31 [Psychephylax]
for 900$
17:47:36 [markd2]
nope
17:47:48 [Psychephylax]
why not
17:47:48 [markd2]
then again, I have no use for a PC laptop
17:48:00 [markd2]
I'm mac man
17:48:34 [Psychephylax]
oh
17:52:14 [Psychephylax]
aha
17:52:22 [Psychephylax]
looks like I will have to take a trip to CompUSa tomorrow
17:52:23 [markd2]
aha?
17:53:55 [markd2]
qool
17:54:07 [markd2]
what kind of battery life do those things get?
17:54:32 [Psychephylax]
?
17:54:38 [markd2]
those laptops
17:54:43 [Psychephylax]
no idea
17:57:10 [Psychephylax]
hehehe
17:57:23 [Psychephylax]
I'm going to do a K&R excersize out of the arrays section
17:57:56 [Psychephylax]
1-13. Write a program to print a histogram of the lengths of words in it's input.
17:59:25 [markd2]
cool
18:00:33 [markd2]
whoa. 5 seconds to move the matrix soundtrack to the ipod
18:00:41 [Psychephylax]
lol
18:08:48 [Psychephylax]
my pool game came!
18:09:13 [markd2]
pool game?
18:09:20 [markd2]
isn't it cold up there to be swimming?
18:09:45 [Psychephylax]
heh
18:12:51 [Psychephylax]
bbl
18:14:01 [Psychephylax]
or not
18:14:03 [Psychephylax]
it not run yet
18:37:31 [markd2]
looks like folks are having a life this saturday
18:37:38 [markd2]
the three channels I hang out in are all very very quiet
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hibye
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