00:00:01 heh 00:00:05 Where's the fearless channel leader aaronsw? 00:00:09 hep me! hep me! I'm been thwap-o-tized 00:00:14 ROFL 00:00:29 Try the new XML-Thwap 00:00:36 XML-Thwap? 00:00:48 I just made it up.. everything else is going XML 00:00:52 Davb 00:00:53 00:00:53 ? 00:00:58 heh 00:01:13 good enough. We'll keep the syntax simple for now. we can extend it later. 00:01:14 I'm actually programming! 00:01:17 *shudders* 00:01:25 Mark 00:01:29 Your kind of stuph 00:01:51 Insert into db values ('mark','wants','a','cookie') 00:02:24 http://alistapart.com/stories/netscape/ 00:02:24 D: http://alistapart.com/stories/netscape/ from davb 00:02:42 D:|Why Don't You Code for Netscape [4] 00:02:42 titled item D 00:03:11 actually this is the funny part: 00:03:17 Because Netscape is about to become extinct if they keep up with their crappy code 00:03:29 I refuse to update above Netscape 4.78 00:03:37 D:[excellent comments|http://diveintomark.weblogger.com/2001/12/07] 00:03:37 commented item D 00:03:41 They're pulling a Microsoft 00:03:43 Psychephylax: Mozilla rules 00:03:52 it actually works :) 00:03:56 Mozilla != Netscape ;) 00:04:01 OK. 00:04:08 Netscape extends Mozilla into the fire of hell 00:04:21 heh 00:04:27 "But the site design looks like shit in Netscape 4, because Netscape 4 is the scourge of the Internet with its ridiculously buggy and incomplete CSS support and should immediately be taken out back, thrown in the dumpster, shot, taken out again, stomped on, cut into three pieces, juggled, kicked in the nuts, body checked against the wall, made to wear a dress, and then roughed up a bit for good measure. 00:04:27 " 00:04:39 I got AOL Instant Messenger on my phone...now I need to figure out a way to get IRC on there and I am all set 00:04:45 Oh my. 00:04:50 that is insane 00:04:58 what's insane? 00:05:18 Mark...got a question for you ;) 00:05:30 yes, I'm insane 00:05:31 Say you have 3 tables 00:05:33 lol 00:05:36 IM on you phone, especially IRC on your phone. You need to get away sometime :) 00:05:46 davb: Naaaah 00:06:08 or not :) 00:06:27 mark, if you have 3 tables and an insertion has to update them all, is it better to do a table join and then insert into that or is it better to update one table at a time? 00:07:29 update one at a time in a transaction 00:07:35 you can't really insert into a table join 00:07:42 unless you do some messiness with "instead of triggers' 00:07:44 http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-8102681.html?tag=mn_hd 00:07:45 E: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-8102681.html?tag=mn_hd from davb 00:07:48 that's what transations are for :-) 00:07:56 E:|Apple confirms iPod sleep-mode bug 00:07:56 titled item E 00:08:10 oh, my ipod came back from the doctor this morning 00:08:20 that was fast. 00:08:26 ? 00:08:32 your ipod went to a doctor? 00:08:37 Damn they're getting smarter 00:08:39 also look out for: 00:08:41 http://www.ipodhacks.com/article.php?sid=43 00:08:41 F: http://www.ipodhacks.com/article.php?sid=43 from davb 00:08:51 F:|iPod Bug with lengthy MP3s 00:08:51 titled item F 00:08:59 F:(>20Mb) 00:08:59 commented item F 00:09:27 http://www.morons.org/articles/1 00:09:28 G: http://www.morons.org/articles/1 from davb 00:09:39 G:|Morons in the New from morons.org 00:09:39 titled item G 00:09:47 G:s/New/News 00:09:47 commented item G 00:10:07 little ipod arrived DOA (I think related to the sleep / low battery problem) 00:10:14 G: check out the busy box 00:10:14 commented item G 00:11:56 the busy box is awesome! 00:11:56 I hope the poor guy a cornerhost doesn't get mad at me for siccing the OpenACS gang on him 00:12:27 business is business 00:12:35 disk is cheap for all of those 200 gig OACS installs 00:12:44 http://openacs.org/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0003Re&topic_id=11&topic=OpenACS 00:12:44 H: http://openacs.org/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0003Re&topic_id=11&topic=OpenACS from davb 00:12:51 yes. 00:16:45 Wooo! 00:16:49 I'll get this stuff done :) 00:16:52 Hehehe 00:16:55 Guess what 00:19:19 what? 00:19:38 I'm going to be commencing on the 16th! That's just 8 days away!!!!!!!! Wooooo!!! I'll break out all sorts of booze :-/ 00:19:41 :-D 00:19:45 woot! 00:19:48 Yippee! 00:19:49 you passed all your classes 00:19:52 * Psychephylax dances on one foot around his room 00:19:52 ? 00:19:58 No, I didn't...yet 00:19:59 hehe 00:20:08 They make us walk before finals in December 00:21:09 I'm just going to go to all the professors and be like..."You COULD fail me...but that means I'll have to come see you every day again and I won't learn a single thing I have not already learned so you will just be wasting my time, your time and someone else's time who couldn't get into this class because I'm using it as a bed in your class" ;-) 00:22:30 Great line in .muttrc: folder-hook . my_hdr Organisation: Poor 00:22:39 rofl 00:22:53 Isn't it Organization? 00:23:21 not across the pond 00:24:09 damn stupid people :P 00:29:34 jabba_ (~jabba@adsl-64-123-14-229.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) has joined #openacs 00:33:06 lol 00:33:15 Anyone listen to wallops? 00:33:23 what's wallops? 00:33:37 Server Op Messages 00:33:41 !lilo:*! Would someone in Houston, Texas be interested in donating a box of new floppies this evening for a server install? Please /msg me. Thanks. 00:33:49 I found that funny ^^ 00:33:53 heh 00:33:57 how do you turn those on? 00:34:07 ummm 00:34:13 Not sure 00:34:13 hehe 00:34:19 Mine are on by default in bitchx 00:34:27 but I think it's +w or maybe +e 00:37:58 Mark 00:38:13 Is this considered bad to calculate the number of copies in the library dynamically? 00:38:21 then increment it by 1 and store it back 00:38:35 why are you calculating and storing it? 00:38:37 (and yes, it's bad) 00:38:40 I do count(*) where ISBN=blah and then I inc that to be the next copy number to be added 00:39:04 just use a sequence 00:39:09 heh 00:39:20 that's a race condition, unless you lock the table that contains your count 00:39:31 in which case you've serialzed your system on that point 00:39:34 *sigh* 00:39:35 Hold on 00:39:42 It's easier said than done 00:39:53 are you using oracle? and can you use oracle features? 00:39:57 Sybase 00:40:02 oh 00:40:46 I know what you mean about race conditions 00:41:08 But it's easier to do it my way :) 00:41:17 simply because the lifetime of my program will be about 20 minutes 00:41:32 heh 00:41:34 And I'm not going to spend 2 hours figuring out how to use a sequence ;p 00:41:49 put a comment in psychephylax code which says "this is a race condition. don't try this in real life" 00:41:56 that way the professor won't know 00:42:07 Psychephylax code? 00:42:15 secret writing only you understand 00:42:21 lol 00:42:29 It's all in here *pointing to the head* 00:42:38 * markd2 hears the hollow thumping sound 00:42:50 ;( 00:43:06 * Psychephylax thwaps© and hears a low ringing sound 00:45:48 *bong* 00:45:57 No thanks, I'm not into pot ;) and feeling free 00:47:29 * markd2 doesn't inhale 00:48:56 Like Billy? 00:49:01 Do you play the sex..i mean sax/ 00:49:30 * markd2 hands sporkie a cigar 00:50:12 no thanks 00:50:14 It's a trap! 00:51:28 * Psychephylax hides 00:57:56 fuck! 00:58:02 I'm having the worst luck with stuff today 00:58:21 I already spilled spaghetti sauce all over the kitchen wall...now I spilled Dr. Pepper all over my carpet 00:58:57 tasty 00:59:01 messy 00:59:05 sounds like you have both an eating and a drinking problem 00:59:10 heh 00:59:16 more of a spilling problem 01:03:12 gotta find out how to insert timestamps 01:07:17 hmmm 01:07:21 ok 01:07:25 how should I do this 01:07:45 I don't need to do a full insertion if the book was already entered 01:07:57 just add a copy 01:07:59 AHA! 01:08:01 I can do that :) 01:17:46 markd2 has quit ("Bork") 01:45:51 d 01:45:54 oops 01:49:00 http://members.tripod.com/~EvilBobDayjob/drprecipes.html 01:49:01 I: http://members.tripod.com/~EvilBobDayjob/drprecipes.html from davb 01:49:07 I:|Dr Pepper recipes 01:49:07 titled item I 01:49:14 I: so Psychephylax only has to spill one thing 01:49:15 commented item I 02:05:07 ? 02:09:41 Dr Pepper food. 02:12:17 s/one/only one 02:12:21 :) 02:13:48 game time 02:13:50 davb has quit ("I'm too lame to make a quit message") 03:58:18 jabba_ has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 04:04:14 jabba_ (~jabba@adsl-65-67-60-32.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) has joined #openacs 16:12:39 davb (dave@alb-24-58-160-135.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 16:53:05 oogle boogle 16:53:10 * Psychephylax thwaps davb 17:48:24 hi 17:48:32 :-/ 17:48:56 I have one hour to develop a presentation 17:49:20 you probably should log off IRC :) 17:49:26 nah 17:49:30 on what? 17:49:32 I should probably go smack my mom for killing the power 17:49:44 God Bless UPSes I have ;) 17:49:54 that helps 17:50:07 yes 17:50:11 And they come to ME to fix it 17:50:15 Don't break it in the first place 17:50:16 Sigh 17:50:23 My mom is bright...but sometimes i wonder 17:51:21 It's a presentation on our project 17:51:48 fun 17:52:53 Uhhuh 17:53:01 I also have to clean my room 17:53:10 God I can't wait for the 23rd 17:53:13 I'll be free 17:53:15 Finally... 17:55:39 It's gotta be approximately 15 minutes 18:01:19 Thats not too bad. Did you start yet? :) 18:01:45 good luck, gotta go 18:01:47 davb has quit () 20:35:30 davb (dave@alb-24-58-160-135.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 20:38:41 markd2 (~markd2@166.102.30.148) has joined #openacs 20:57:39 http://firstmonday.org/issues/issue6_12/kelty/ 20:57:40 A: http://firstmonday.org/issues/issue6_12/kelty/ from davb 20:57:56 A:|Free Software/Free Science 20:57:56 titled item A 20:58:25 A: at [firstmonday|http://firstmonday.com] 20:58:25 commented item A 21:00:38 markd2 has quit ("Bork") 21:00:43 markd2 (~markd2@166.102.30.148) has joined #openacs 21:20:17 til (tils@port-212-202-128-205.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 21:31:12 http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue6_12/lancashire/index.html 21:31:13 B: http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue6_12/lancashire/index.html from davb 21:31:26 B:|Code, Culture and Cash: The Fading Altruism of Open Source Development 21:31:27 titled item B 21:31:35 B: more from First Monday 21:31:35 commented item B 22:29:59 djg (beer@pD9587B88.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #openacs 22:39:54 til has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:40:00 til (tils@port-212-202-128-205.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 22:54:30 til has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:54:36 til (tils@port-212-202-128-205.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 23:07:05 til has quit (Remote closed the connection) 23:07:11 til (tils@port-212-202-128-205.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 23:07:18 looks like aaronsw syndrome 23:16:35 :) 23:18:09 markd2 has quit ("guests") 23:33:15 til has quit (Remote closed the connection) 23:33:20 til (tils@port-212-202-128-205.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 23:38:55 djg has quit ("Leaving")