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00:23:27 <talli> hey guys
00:23:31 <talli> anyone here tonight?
00:34:46 <markd2> not many
00:34:59 <markd2> how was the party?
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03:10:27 <davb> must have been pretty good...
03:10:39 <davb> back to work
03:10:49 <markd2> * markd2 cracks the whip
03:37:37 <markd2> http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/ceb/jokes.html
03:37:37 <chump> G: http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/ceb/jokes.html from markd2
03:37:43 <markd2> G:| Steven Wright Jokes
03:37:44 <chump> titled item G
03:45:11 <davb> Should I read Fellowship of the Ring before I see the movie?
03:45:16 <markd2> dunno
03:45:20 <markd2> I haven't read it
03:45:34 <markd2> hopefully it won't be like Harry Potter / Dune where you have to have read the book to make sense of the movie
03:45:52 <markd2> I started reading it, but it just got too tedious
03:47:02 <davb> Harry Potter was great to read. I read all of them after I started reading them to the kids.
03:47:19 <davb> I tried to read it (FOTR) in high school but never got into it.
03:48:00 <davb> I need to find some nerds who have read it. We must be the only ones who haven;t.
03:48:34 <markd2> ops - I enjoyed harry potter(s), FOTR kinda snoozed me
03:48:47 <markd2> I'm sure thre's dope on the net you can find
03:48:58 <markd2> my sister gave me a LOTR board game for xmoose lsat year
03:49:04 <markd2> maybe Ill understand it more once I see the movie
03:50:15 <davb> Did you play the game? My wife is getting it for christmas. 
03:50:27 <davb> (she told me I bought it for her)
03:50:38 <markd2> heh
03:50:44 <markd2> we looked at the instructions and our eyes glazed over
03:50:48 <markd2> it's in a big green box?
03:50:53 <davb> oh goody. 
03:51:02 <davb> I think so. It looks cool. 
03:51:08 <davb> Have you ever play Axis and Allies?
03:51:10 <markd2> the artwork inside is excellent
03:51:13 <markd2> I'm pretty short-attention-span when it come to games
03:51:16 <davb> it can't be more complicated than that.
03:51:20 <markd2> Risk(tm) is about the extent of complexity for me
03:51:48 <davb> There are alot of great games. You definitely have to play them a few times to get the hang of it.
03:52:01 <markd2> I never have time to play
03:52:04 <markd2> spend all my time on IRC :-)
03:53:22 <davb> heh
03:54:25 <davb> I love this security report from MS: Impact:     Run Code of Attacker's Choice
03:54:49 <davb> Like there is a menu File Edit Attack Help
03:55:36 <markd2> heh
03:55:44 <markd2> there is, it's just hidden
03:55:55 <markd2> you have to double-alt-escape-click on the little double-arrows on Office menus
03:56:19 <davb> aha.
03:56:30 <markd2> sleep bearing down on
03:56:32 <markd2> bbl
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03:57:05 <davb> bye
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17:19:42 <markd2> hey talli
17:27:33 <talli> hey markd2
17:32:24 <_Manuel_> _Manuel_ (~GNU@234-CORU-X12.libre.retevision.es) has joined #openacs
17:32:47 <_Manuel_> hi
17:33:36 <markd2> greets
17:37:22 <_Manuel_> i didn't expect such a channel in an IRC net :D
17:41:01 <_Manuel_> we're using ACS to provide the students in our university on-line courses
17:41:17 <markd2> cool!
17:41:21 <_Manuel_> with ACS 3.4 Education
17:41:38 <markd2> need to duck out and help the wife move some boxes
17:41:39 <markd2> brb
17:42:08 <_Manuel_> excuseme, i can't understand O:)
17:42:31 <_Manuel_> i'm not a very good english-speaker
17:54:34 <markd2> sorry - I needed to leave the channel briefly (duck out)
17:54:45 <_Manuel_> aha
17:54:47 <markd2> and help my wife with some boxes that we have in storage
17:55:13 <_Manuel_> ok :)
17:55:35 <markd2> your english is much better than my espangol, so I will not complain :-)
17:56:12 <_Manuel_> :D
17:56:18 <_Manuel_> all right
17:57:19 <_Manuel_> well, i thought that the openacs development was ¿freeze?, with the ACS license changens and the use of Java and so
17:57:59 <markd2> open acs development continunes
17:58:06 <markd2> arsDigita has abandoned the tcl versions of ACS
17:58:12 <markd2> which open acs is fixing / extending
17:58:21 <markd2> the Java is arsDigita's New Direction
17:58:25 <markd2> which we're pretty much ignoring
17:59:13 <_Manuel_> on which version are you working, 3.2/4 or 4.0?
18:00:08 <markd2> most development is in 4.0 
18:00:15 <talli> manuel, acs3.4 dev will continue, it seems
18:00:17 <markd2> but I'm not an Official Spokesperson
18:00:31 <talli> there are some people that have invested alot in it and want to at least maintain the system
18:01:09 <talli> that being said, some of us got a look at dotLRN (http://dotlrn.mit.edu) the next generation learning system based on OACS and it totally rocks
18:01:24 <talli> it will really push OACS pretty far.
18:01:24 <markd2> based on oacs4?
18:01:28 <_Manuel_> we're fixing bugs in 3.4, but with ACS, and with the special purpose version for Sloan-MIT
18:01:29 <talli> yeah, OACS4
18:01:39 <markd2> excellent
18:01:47 <talli> yeah, there are people still working on that system
18:01:54 <talli> malte sussdorf for one
18:02:38 <talli> http://openacs.org/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000357
18:02:38 <chump> A: http://openacs.org/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000357 from talli
18:02:46 <_Manuel_> well, then maybe we're duplicating work :/
18:03:09 <talli> A: bboard post about maintaining and developing with ACS 3.4 systems, including ACES
18:03:10 <chump> commented item A
18:03:56 <talli> you may be. i know that sussdorf and roy, the famed tiger handlers/german acs developers, have been implementing the system and improving it
18:04:05 <talli> http://www.sussdorf-roy.de
18:04:05 <chump> B: http://www.sussdorf-roy.de from talli
18:04:09 <markd2> heh
18:04:14 <talli> B: Malte Sussdorf's company
18:04:14 <chump> commented item B
18:04:16 <_Manuel_> much better than us, sure :D
18:05:04 <markd2> hmmm.. that doesn't resolve for me
18:05:47 <talli> i may be wrong
18:05:48 <talli> lemme check
18:06:11 <_Manuel_> * _Manuel_ going to the first URL
18:07:56 <talli> B: actual URL: http://www.sussdorf-roy.com
18:07:57 <chump> commented item B
18:11:33 <_Manuel_> uff, i'ts a long thread
18:11:39 <markd2> whoa.  rbuck chimed in
18:11:45 <talli> where?
18:11:56 <markd2> at the end of that thread you posted
18:12:03 <talli> oh, yeah, he did
18:12:14 <talli> about 3.5?
18:12:17 <markd2> yeah
18:18:02 <_Manuel_> uh, very interesting the thread
18:18:30 <_Manuel_> i've to tell to my devel-leader :)
18:21:57 <_Manuel_> i've to leave, i suppose that i'll return soon, be adviced ;)
18:22:02 <_Manuel_> bye
18:22:08 <talli> later
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18:52:55 <docwolf> my head
18:53:05 <docwolf> that social... it's all a blur
18:53:12 <markd2> heh
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23:54:45 <davb> http://linuxbrit.co.uk/mutt/ 
23:54:46 <chump> C: http://linuxbrit.co.uk/mutt/ from davb
23:54:54 <davb> C:|Handy Muttrc file
23:54:54 <chump> titled item C
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23:56:51 <davb> C: great info for customizing MUTT
23:56:52 <chump> commented item C
23:57:04 <davb> chump view
23:59:23 <Psychephylax> :)
23:59:46 <Psychephylax> * Psychephylax thwaps© markd2 and davb with one big thwap©