IRC log of openacs on 2001-12-08

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00:23:22 [talli]: talli (~talli@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #openacs
00:23:27 [talli]: hey guys
00:23:31 [talli]: anyone here tonight?
00:34:46 [markd2]: not many
00:34:59 [markd2]: how was the party?
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03:10:27 [davb]: must have been pretty good...
03:10:39 [davb]: back to work
03:10:49 [markd2]: * markd2 cracks the whip
03:37:37 [markd2]: http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/ceb/jokes.html
03:37:37 [chump]: G: http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/ceb/jokes.html from markd2
03:37:43 [markd2]: G:| Steven Wright Jokes
03:37:44 [chump]: titled item G
03:45:11 [davb]: Should I read Fellowship of the Ring before I see the movie?
03:45:16 [markd2]: dunno
03:45:20 [markd2]: I haven't read it
03:45:34 [markd2]: hopefully it won't be like Harry Potter / Dune where you have to have read the book to make sense of the movie
03:45:52 [markd2]: I started reading it, but it just got too tedious
03:47:02 [davb]: Harry Potter was great to read. I read all of them after I started reading them to the kids.
03:47:19 [davb]: I tried to read it (FOTR) in high school but never got into it.
03:48:00 [davb]: I need to find some nerds who have read it. We must be the only ones who haven;t.
03:48:34 [markd2]: ops - I enjoyed harry potter(s), FOTR kinda snoozed me
03:48:47 [markd2]: I'm sure thre's dope on the net you can find
03:48:58 [markd2]: my sister gave me a LOTR board game for xmoose lsat year
03:49:04 [markd2]: maybe Ill understand it more once I see the movie
03:50:15 [davb]: Did you play the game? My wife is getting it for christmas.
03:50:27 [davb]: (she told me I bought it for her)
03:50:38 [markd2]: heh
03:50:44 [markd2]: we looked at the instructions and our eyes glazed over
03:50:48 [markd2]: it's in a big green box?
03:50:53 [davb]: oh goody.
03:51:02 [davb]: I think so. It looks cool.
03:51:08 [davb]: Have you ever play Axis and Allies?
03:51:10 [markd2]: the artwork inside is excellent
03:51:13 [markd2]: I'm pretty short-attention-span when it come to games
03:51:16 [davb]: it can't be more complicated than that.
03:51:20 [markd2]: Risk(tm) is about the extent of complexity for me
03:51:48 [davb]: There are alot of great games. You definitely have to play them a few times to get the hang of it.
03:52:01 [markd2]: I never have time to play
03:52:04 [markd2]: spend all my time on IRC :-)
03:53:22 [davb]: heh
03:54:25 [davb]: I love this security report from MS: Impact: Run Code of Attacker's Choice
03:54:49 [davb]: Like there is a menu File Edit Attack Help
03:55:36 [markd2]: heh
03:55:44 [markd2]: there is, it's just hidden
03:55:55 [markd2]: you have to double-alt-escape-click on the little double-arrows on Office menus
03:56:19 [davb]: aha.
03:56:30 [markd2]: sleep bearing down on
03:56:32 [markd2]: bbl
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03:57:05 [davb]: bye
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17:17:41 [talli]: talli (~talli@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #openacs
17:19:42 [markd2]: hey talli
17:27:33 [talli]: hey markd2
17:32:24 [_Manuel_]: _Manuel_ (~GNU@234-CORU-X12.libre.retevision.es) has joined #openacs
17:32:47 [_Manuel_]: hi
17:33:36 [markd2]: greets
17:37:22 [_Manuel_]: i didn't expect such a channel in an IRC net :D
17:41:01 [_Manuel_]: we're using ACS to provide the students in our university on-line courses
17:41:17 [markd2]: cool!
17:41:21 [_Manuel_]: with ACS 3.4 Education
17:41:38 [markd2]: need to duck out and help the wife move some boxes
17:41:39 [markd2]: brb
17:42:08 [_Manuel_]: excuseme, i can't understand O:)
17:42:31 [_Manuel_]: i'm not a very good english-speaker
17:54:34 [markd2]: sorry - I needed to leave the channel briefly (duck out)
17:54:45 [_Manuel_]: aha
17:54:47 [markd2]: and help my wife with some boxes that we have in storage
17:55:13 [_Manuel_]: ok :)
17:55:35 [markd2]: your english is much better than my espangol, so I will not complain :-)
17:56:12 [_Manuel_]: :D
17:56:18 [_Manuel_]: all right
17:57:19 [_Manuel_]: well, i thought that the openacs development was ¿freeze?, with the ACS license changens and the use of Java and so
17:57:59 [markd2]: open acs development continunes
17:58:06 [markd2]: arsDigita has abandoned the tcl versions of ACS
17:58:12 [markd2]: which open acs is fixing / extending
17:58:21 [markd2]: the Java is arsDigita's New Direction
17:58:25 [markd2]: which we're pretty much ignoring
17:59:13 [_Manuel_]: on which version are you working, 3.2/4 or 4.0?
18:00:08 [markd2]: most development is in 4.0
18:00:15 [talli]: manuel, acs3.4 dev will continue, it seems
18:00:17 [markd2]: but I'm not an Official Spokesperson
18:00:31 [talli]: there are some people that have invested alot in it and want to at least maintain the system
18:01:09 [talli]: that being said, some of us got a look at dotLRN (http://dotlrn.mit.edu) the next generation learning system based on OACS and it totally rocks
18:01:24 [talli]: it will really push OACS pretty far.
18:01:24 [markd2]: based on oacs4?
18:01:28 [_Manuel_]: we're fixing bugs in 3.4, but with ACS, and with the special purpose version for Sloan-MIT
18:01:29 [talli]: yeah, OACS4
18:01:39 [markd2]: excellent
18:01:47 [talli]: yeah, there are people still working on that system
18:01:54 [talli]: malte sussdorf for one
18:02:38 [talli]: http://openacs.org/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000357
18:02:38 [chump]: A: http://openacs.org/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000357 from talli
18:02:46 [_Manuel_]: well, then maybe we're duplicating work :/
18:03:09 [talli]: A: bboard post about maintaining and developing with ACS 3.4 systems, including ACES
18:03:10 [chump]: commented item A
18:03:56 [talli]: you may be. i know that sussdorf and roy, the famed tiger handlers/german acs developers, have been implementing the system and improving it
18:04:05 [talli]: http://www.sussdorf-roy.de
18:04:05 [chump]: B: http://www.sussdorf-roy.de from talli
18:04:09 [markd2]: heh
18:04:14 [talli]: B: Malte Sussdorf's company
18:04:14 [chump]: commented item B
18:04:16 [_Manuel_]: much better than us, sure :D
18:05:04 [markd2]: hmmm.. that doesn't resolve for me
18:05:47 [talli]: i may be wrong
18:05:48 [talli]: lemme check
18:06:11 [_Manuel_]: * _Manuel_ going to the first URL
18:07:56 [talli]: B: actual URL: http://www.sussdorf-roy.com
18:07:57 [chump]: commented item B
18:11:33 [_Manuel_]: uff, i'ts a long thread
18:11:39 [markd2]: whoa. rbuck chimed in
18:11:45 [talli]: where?
18:11:56 [markd2]: at the end of that thread you posted
18:12:03 [talli]: oh, yeah, he did
18:12:14 [talli]: about 3.5?
18:12:17 [markd2]: yeah
18:18:02 [_Manuel_]: uh, very interesting the thread
18:18:30 [_Manuel_]: i've to tell to my devel-leader :)
18:21:57 [_Manuel_]: i've to leave, i suppose that i'll return soon, be adviced ;)
18:22:02 [_Manuel_]: bye
18:22:08 [talli]: later
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18:52:55 [docwolf]: my head
18:53:05 [docwolf]: that social... it's all a blur
18:53:12 [markd2]: heh
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23:54:45 [davb]: http://linuxbrit.co.uk/mutt/
23:54:46 [chump]: C: http://linuxbrit.co.uk/mutt/ from davb
23:54:54 [davb]: C:|Handy Muttrc file
23:54:54 [chump]: titled item C
23:55:06 [markd2]: markd2 (~Snak@166.102.30.63) has joined #openacs
23:56:51 [davb]: C: great info for customizing MUTT
23:56:52 [chump]: commented item C
23:57:04 [davb]: chump view
23:59:23 [Psychephylax]: :)