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14:36:46 <sagan.openprojects.net> topic is: Macarena Lessons for Web Nerds http://openacs.org
14:36:46 <sagan.openprojects.net> Users on #openacs: loggy AaronSw davb ola chump Psychephylax abbaJ 
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14:37:01 <davb> I tried again to make it work, logger doesn't like me :(
14:37:07 <AaronSw> Gotta run now, my best to all of you
14:37:08 <AaronSw> heh heh
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14:37:21 <davb> AaronSw is a good guy.
14:39:36 <davb> argharghargharghargh!
14:39:48 <davb> networksolutions is the opposite of AaronSw
14:39:57 <ola> heh
14:40:40 <davb> next time we shouldn't wait a week before msging him. 
14:42:42 <davb> argh... its down again WTF
14:43:02 <ola> * ola goes to take care of the laundry
14:43:04 <ola> brb
14:43:06 <davb> weird I can access it, but uptime says its not available
14:43:07 <davb> :)
14:57:21 <davb> meeting bbl
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14:57:50 <zahn.openprojects.net> topic is: Macarena Lessons for Web Nerds http://openacs.org
14:57:50 <zahn.openprojects.net> Users on #openacs: loggy davb ola Psychephylax abbaJ 
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15:29:59 <davb> back
15:30:48 <davb> ola: can you try www.airbydesign.com again?
15:33:23 <ola> it works now!
15:33:33 <davb> cool!
15:34:11 <ola> dave, do you know your own site don't render almost at all in Netscape 4.7?
15:34:27 <davb> yes.
15:34:31 <davb> It uses CSS exclusivly.
15:34:52 <davb> you really should switch to Mozilla.
15:34:54 <davb> :)
15:34:57 <ola> aha. NN 4 is too old anyways:-)
15:35:10 <davb> the client doesn't seem to mind.
15:35:10 <ola> I have both!
15:35:15 <davb> oh ok. 
15:35:18 <ola> heh
15:35:37 <davb> they didn't even notice that site has been unreachable for like 2 weeks :)
15:35:47 <davb> due to the expiration of the domain
15:36:01 <ola> lucky you;-)
15:36:12 <davb> well they don't pay very well...
15:37:05 <davb> hopefully the other domain will start working soon, I put in a bogus record and its pointing to the wrong place :(
15:37:15 <davb> it expires in a little while hopefully.
15:37:28 <ola> have you got a ongoing contract with them?
15:38:02 <ola> (airbydesign that is)
15:38:04 <davb> yes. its only $40/month though
15:38:20 <davb> they finally want to update the site after like 2 years.
15:38:41 <davb> I also want to get that site and the other one on OpenACS 4.
15:38:52 <davb> Then I can whip out updates and new features in hours.
15:39:34 <ola> how does OpenACS4 help updates?
15:39:49 <davb> ETP
15:39:53 <davb> templates
15:39:55 <davb> etc...
15:39:58 <ola> aha!
15:40:19 <davb> those are just a batch of pages I whipped up in dreamweaver before I read PANDA
15:41:22 <ola> so they dont use 3x either?
15:41:50 <davb> nope.
15:41:59 <davb> they are on apache on the mail server...
15:42:12 <ola> I see.
15:42:41 <davb> That is why I am interested in domain based subsites. Then I can run both of them on the same database and AOLserver.
15:46:59 <davb> arghargharghargh!
15:47:13 <davb> axfrdns is not working now.
15:51:07 <ola> causes tcp services like mail to not work, or...?
15:51:43 <davb> that is the domain transfer program to let granitecanyon get my dns so it can be the backup.
15:52:09 <ola> oh...
15:52:48 <ola> brb (laundry)
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16:07:55 <ola> I'm back...
16:08:49 <davb> cool. I am chatting with NS again
16:09:11 <davb> Also I have to install a bazillion updates to Office 2000 on all the machines here.
16:09:18 <davb> (at work)
16:11:56 <zahn.openprojects.net> zahn.openprojects.net has changed the topic to: OpenACS Social Recovery Network http://openacs.org
16:12:19 <ola> right. thats a weekly occupation IIRC;-)
16:12:47 <davb> we wait until it is a crisis. So you have to reboot like 11 times and download 200 seperate updates.
16:18:18 <ola> http://tralfaz-archives.com/coverart/S/Stranglers/stranglers_sverige.html
16:18:18 <chump> C: http://tralfaz-archives.com/coverart/S/Stranglers/stranglers_sverige.html from ola
16:18:36 <ola> C:Theese guys actually sound pretty funny when they try to sing in Swedish:-)
16:18:36 <chump> commented item C
16:19:34 <davb> this is super annoying and complicated.
16:20:27 <davb> but it might actually get fixed.
16:22:32 <davb> The worst part is the administrative contact has a bad email address in the database so its super painful to transfer to another registrar also
16:25:16 <ola> the registrars I've come in contact with (two) could use an update to an OpenACS based service..
16:25:41 <Psychephylax> bah
16:25:46 <davb> i use buydomains.com they are fast with updates, but the page is broken in mozilla.
16:25:47 <ola> hello!
16:25:51 <davb> h i Psychephylax
16:26:55 <ola> Psychephylax, rise and shine! :-)
16:26:56 <Psychephylax> hi
16:36:35 <davb> apparently the combined suckiness of netsol and my registar is multiplied
16:39:24 <ola> and then divided by 0
16:41:30 <davb> I still need to fix this domain thing because I am afraid my IP address wil change again so I need to be able to switch to the new server I am using.
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17:17:17 <davb> bb in 3 reboots
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17:29:07 <davb> I am back early, the MS site to download the updates is not responding.
17:47:27 <davb> yeah! 
17:47:27 <davb> Modifications for the domain name registration shown below have been
17:47:27 <davb> completed.
17:48:54 <davb> anyone around
17:49:01 <davb> if so can you try www.okfilters.com
17:54:12 <davb> the server is working, more DNS propagation...
18:00:05 <ola> dave, I can get to okfilters.
18:11:40 <davb> cool! thanks bbiab
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19:07:29 <davb> http://cornerhost.com/
19:07:29 <chump> D: http://cornerhost.com/ from davb
19:07:35 <davb> D:|Low Cost Hosting
19:07:35 <chump> titled item D
19:08:36 <davb> D: This might be good for OpenACS development. 
19:08:37 <chump> commented item D
19:12:02 <davb> I asked for a quote for AOLserver/Postgresql. They will run anything it looks like.
19:15:00 <davb> with one database/aolserver pair and domain based subsites, you could run a few small volume sites on there for a reasonable price.
20:11:40 <davb> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23245.html
20:11:40 <chump> E: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23245.html from davb
20:11:58 <davb> E:|Making Linux look harder than it is [or not]
20:11:58 <chump> titled item E
20:23:36 <davb> http://www.uiweb.com/other/chiweb.htm
20:23:36 <chump> F: http://www.uiweb.com/other/chiweb.htm from davb
20:23:45 <davb> F:|The Best of CHI-WEB
20:23:45 <chump> titled item F
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21:34:30 <AaronSw> lonely in here
21:40:27 <AaronSw> lo-oh-oh-onely
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22:59:21 <davb> Hi gang.
23:00:02 <davb> Psychephylax: : definitely check out http://cornerhost.com
23:00:09 <davb> for inexpensive hosting.