00:00:40 jerryasher has joined #openacs 00:16:01 ok guys. time to try this scary distro. 00:16:22 catch ya in a bit 00:16:50 docwolf has quit 00:16:52 nblyumbe has joined #openacs 00:17:00 one small step for me...one large step for mankind 00:17:09 nblyumbe is now known as Sporkiephylax 00:17:36 Sporkiephylax has quit 00:19:25 http://www.jjg.net/ia/ 00:19:26 G: http://www.jjg.net/ia/ from davb 00:19:33 G:|Information Architecture Resources 00:19:34 titled item G 00:21:08 jerryasher has quit 00:23:59 nblyumbe has joined #openacs 00:24:03 Greeeeetings 00:24:08 nblyumbe is now known as Sporkiephylax 00:26:42 Psychephylax has joined #openacs 00:33:08 So why'd you get bumped by nickserv? 00:33:39 because I have Psychephylax and Spork registered but I leave it idling 00:33:54 And when Nickserv decides to wake up it forces re-authentication 00:34:05 But I'm not here to retype the password :( 00:34:15 Oh, I never authenticate :) 00:34:29 I should jsut add my nicks to the access list =) 00:34:38 Dave, you ever get your DNS problem fixeD? 00:34:48 FreeBSD hugo.neverhere.com 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #2: Sun Nov 11 18:58:56 EST 2001 root@hugo.neverhere.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HUGO_SIMPSON i386 00:34:51 muahaha 00:35:15 yes. 00:35:22 I don't know how :) 00:35:25 I fixed the erratic mouse movement after I flip between computers with KVM 00:35:47 anyone familiar with "flags" in the kernel config? 00:38:32 brb 00:41:31 docwolf has joined #openacs 00:49:14 karll has joined #openacs 00:50:14 talli has joined #openacs 00:50:33 talli has left #openacs 00:52:49 hi talli, bye talli 00:56:53 til has joined #openacs 00:57:52 lol 01:01:06 markd2 has quit 01:04:46 hazmat has joined #openacs 01:08:06 redmond linux = spectacular failure on my inspiron 8000. 01:08:24 ack 01:08:31 that is my thorough review. :-) 01:08:32 syn! 01:16:22 [GlobalNotice] Hi all. If you're having access list or other problems with your channel, please stop by #conversion and talk to miro. We're pretty much committed to continue on with the new code. Thanks for using OPN! 01:18:07 docwolf: oh :) 01:18:10 laptops can be trickpy 01:20:19 Roberto, do you use FreeBSD? 01:21:00 We used FreeBSD (procplace) 01:21:12 I mean... use... FreeBSD 01:21:12 I have, in the past. I don't currently have any BSD boxen 01:21:19 ever use FreeBSD through a KVM? 01:21:32 I don't think so. Not sure what a KVM is. 01:21:32 yah, all the time 01:21:51 ever get a psmintr out of sync (0000 != 0008) messages? 01:22:30 nope, what kind of kvm switch are you using? 01:22:39 Belkin 01:22:45 hmm... one sec 01:23:46 We're using a Belkin OmniView Pro 8-port... 01:24:01 i have a Cube 4 port 01:24:17 most of the systems are Tyan 1U S2510 motherboards, but we have an assortment of misc boxes with AMD cpus, etc 01:24:24 heh, did you know some of the Pro 8 ports had swapped firmware chips...there was a number of them 01:24:43 and they all seem to work fine. did not know about firmware swaps 01:24:52 ah 01:25:06 I think it's more of a mouse type 01:25:13 If you have any openacs problems with interrupted system call errors, check out my tcl patch on http://lehenbauer.com 01:25:45 i disabled the mouse type probe and it works fine now 01:25:48 but I can't use the mouse wheel 01:25:55 oh yeah, psm == mouse, duh... dammit my backspace is a delete and i'm misconfigured 01:26:10 :) 01:26:23 using a NC new-internet-computer to ssh into the server 01:26:34 kind of a p o s 01:27:02 i just use a very stock logitech mouse 01:27:13 what version of x are you running 01:27:40 not sure 01:28:07 i have the logitech wheel mouse optical 01:28:13 i believe the wheel support in substantially improved in Xfree version 4, of course your problem occurs during the o s boot 01:28:24 no 01:28:39 it occurs when I swap between 2 boxes 01:29:19 oh ok, well that's about all i have to contribute 01:29:27 :) 01:29:34 well 01:30:05 do you know how "bit 9" is converted to "0x200" 01:31:19 nah. i am poking around right now, tho' 01:31:27 do man psm 01:33:36 google search on "psmintr out of sync" yielded a lot of matches... 01:33:54 I searched for it 01:34:05 I searched the FreeBSD archive 01:34:22 none of them explain how bit 9 = 0x200 01:35:42 This looks interesting, http://www.pl.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ134.html 01:36:10 "If the problem occurs often, you may add the following option to your kernel config: options PSM_CHECKSYNC" 01:36:20 although it's kind of an old message 01:36:45 oh you're ahead of me 01:37:18 ? 01:37:42 i see further down in the doc stuff about disabling sync check code, so i assume you've read this already 01:37:51 yup 01:37:57 i solved the problem 01:38:08 I just want to try other bit settings 01:38:22 which requires that I know how bit 9 = 0x200 01:38:34 It does not look hex'ish 01:38:46 since 9 in hex is still 9 01:39:08 and 12 in octal (if I can add right) 01:39:14 maybe 11 01:40:13 and if it was bit number nine, numbering from least significant equals 0, it'd be 0x400, and if numbered form 0 it'd be 0x1000... 01:40:40 right 01:40:55 so i have no idea how bit 9 = 0x200 02:06:39 ARGH! These people are idiots. 02:07:10 uhoh 02:07:30 They have a registration screen where you need to enter in your number which you got from a web page. So you copy it. Then try to paste into the reg form, but NOoooo its a FLASH form and you can't paste in there. 02:07:49 This is inside a windows application which does have normal dialog boxes. It is not a web application. 02:08:23 oops. CTRL-V doesn't work, right-click doesn't work. BUT edit-paste does work. 02:08:56 but it is free, so should I complain? :) 02:09:17 that was the classic arsdigita response 02:09:18 if want to add a command to start something for me in *nix where should it normally go? 02:09:21 "hey, it's free, right?" 02:10:30 Sporkiephylax: Anywhere in your $PATH (echo $PATH). I usually put in /usr/local/bin 02:10:41 I concur. 02:10:52 docwolf: lol! 02:10:53 nah 02:10:57 you misunderstand 02:11:04 I want it to start on it's own when I boot 02:11:11 If it's a package with diferent files, I use "stow" to easily install and uninstall 02:11:12 Depends on which *nix 02:11:17 FreeBSD ;) 02:11:24 * davb remembers "stow" for future reference 02:11:40 I though Sporkiephylax was the BSD guru around here :) 02:11:45 heh 02:11:48 I get by 02:11:48 stow is cool. I use it whenever I'm compiling something 02:12:33 Mine startup scripts are in /etc/init.d linked to the various /etc/rc*.d 02:13:44 * Sporkiephylax vaguely recalls /usr/local 02:14:28 I want RC5 starting automatically in a screen on boot 02:15:23 donb has joined #openacs 02:16:15 Hi Don 02:16:30 heh 02:16:42 now I know how to fix my mouse problems on the other BSD box 02:16:44 * davb uninstall the free tricky-ware 02:17:09 Hmmm...is it possible to alter kernel parameters without actually rebooting a unix machine? 02:17:47 It has all the buttons, when you click on them it says "OH, you actually want to USE the software, you should upgrade to the Real version..." all this after saying "this is not cripple-ware, its a fully functioning product..." 02:19:30 What are you talking about, davb? 02:19:52 Strata 3D.... 02:20:04 Never heard of it :) 02:20:28 Its good, worth the $$$ for the real version, but I don't like the trickiness. 02:30:28 * Sporkiephylax is away: studying to be a failure 02:30:45 It's a lot of hard work! 02:51:32 [GlobalNotice] Hi all. We had a brief configuration problem which resulted in users being told they couldn't connect without a password. It's been resolved. 02:53:32 Sporkiephylax has quit 02:55:37 davb has quit 03:03:41 aegrumet has joined #openacs 03:07:39 til has quit 03:09:38 * AaronSw reconnects 03:30:34 hi folks 03:31:02 is anyone clueful about maxidle/maxopen in aol33? 03:31:12 I seem to remember in aol32 on Linux 03:31:19 you needed to set these to a large number 03:31:24 to avoid disastter 03:43:20 [GlobalNotice] Hi all. Reminder: There were some limitations in the conversion scripting for chanserv. If you're experiencing channel problems, drop by #conversion. Thanks. 04:14:15 docwolf has quit 04:15:47 aegrumet: there was a good discussion of it not to long ago on the aolserver mailing list. 04:17:31 iirc, on 3.2 you needed to make them equal else there was a leak because of improper clean up of the tcl intrepreter. 04:17:53 * hazmat digs through his email 04:20:36 * hazmat falls into a hole 04:21:19 never mind... wrong parameter... 04:29:54 Psychephylax has quit 04:29:54 GEM has quit 04:32:03 Psychephylax has joined #openacs 04:32:03 GEM has joined #openacs 04:35:36 [#openacs] This channel is logged: http://www.blogspace.com/openacs/chatlogs/ and blogged: http://www.thedesignexperience.org/openacs/ircblog 04:37:52 hazmat: okay, thanks anyway 04:55:36 karll has quit 05:33:43 aegrumet has left #openacs 05:42:03 docwolf has joined #openacs 05:49:25 docwolf has quit 06:05:00 [#openacs] This channel is logged: http://www.blogspace.com/openacs/chatlogs/ and blogged: http://www.thedesignexperience.org/openacs/ircblog 06:28:43 jabba has joined #openacs 06:28:52 hey guys 06:29:24 anyone here? 07:33:14 hello? 09:13:35 Hello everyone, just wanted to let you know that channel founders should now have access to their channel regardless of their prior situation, it has been fixed for every channel registered. There may still be some access lists which have not had the levels updated - if you can't contact the founder we may be able to help you. 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We are examining our options, but be assured the bug that caused us to revert back is known and has been fixed. It is currently being tested right now. Cross your fingers, please :) 12:48:34 markd2 is now known as m0nk3yb0t 12:48:50 m0nk3yb0t is now known as markd2 13:36:46 markd2 has quit (Bork) 13:41:48 ola (ola@as3-1-3.mal.s.bonet.se) has joined #openacs 13:44:28 Hello ola 13:44:36 morning Dave! 13:45:33 Does your site feel snappier now or am i only dreaming? 13:49:37 heh 13:49:52 probably is. Its on cable now, before it was on 128K DSL. 13:50:37 I posted to the djbdns mailing list today. Hopefully someone can help me even though my question is badly formulated... 13:50:59 How fast is your cable? 13:51:35 no idea :) 13:52:07 Yes. I setup tinydns on that machine and its working OK. Just had a little mishap where I left out some DNS entries like the MX records :) 13:57:20 I saw that a new rss package is available. what does "rss" stand for? 14:02:33 RDF Site Summmary, or something else... :) its debatable. 14:03:26 try: 14:03:27 http://www.blogspace.com/rss/ 14:03:27 A: http://www.blogspace.com/rss/ from davb 14:03:31 A:|RSS Info 14:03:32 titled item A 14:24:57 hmm...very cool. I think I want this technology on my upcoming website:-) 14:25:32 I think it's goog if things change often (and automatically). 14:25:48 s/goog/good 14:26:34 openacs.org should provide feeds! 14:46:08 its coming :) 14:50:05 its very spiffy. 14:54:15 abbaJ (jabba@adsl-65-65-96-86.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) has joined #openacs 14:55:33 hi abbaJ 14:55:56 heya 15:14:26 Psychephylax (proxy@ool-18baa98f.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #openacs 15:15:32 Hello Psychephylax 15:18:24 hey 15:19:08 you watching the news? 15:19:28 Nope (kids), but my wife called me. Plane crash in your general vicinity. 15:19:40 hi Psychephylax! 15:20:32 yeah 15:20:37 It was headed to Santo Domingo 15:20:43 I'm going there in 5 days 15:20:50 Hi Ola 15:21:42 aigh. I knew that sounded familiar. 15:26:34 k2pts (nkd@213.149.168.174) has joined #openacs 15:27:44 k2pts has left #openacs 15:31:35 aegrumet (aegrumet@65.192.237.34) has joined #openacs 15:34:40 aha 15:34:46 i think this will work 15:38:08 markd2 (markd@r-41.139.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 15:47:23 hey mark 15:47:26 hi 15:57:58 sure! 15:58:09 oh 15:58:19 * markd2 can't think of anything 15:58:21 abbaJ has quit (Client Exiting) 16:02:49 question 16:03:06 i have a functional script called ubr-find.tcl 16:04:05 it's in a subdirectory called ubrfinder 16:04:18 because it requires some other files that get loaded in the script 16:04:34 when I try to exec the script from my page 16:04:46 it says it can't find the files the script loads 16:04:57 couldn't open MIB file "cisco-smi.mib": no such file or directory 16:05:01 what if you execute like this 16:05:23 exec sh -c "cd /your/directory; /your/directory/burfinder" 16:05:28 e.g. cd to thed irectoy first 16:05:38 but don't use the tcl 'cd' command - it's not thread safe 16:06:04 i don't use threads! 16:06:25 set ubr [exec /web/oacs/www/snmp/www/ubrfinder/ubr-find.tcl] 16:15:34 do I have to cd back ? 16:23:30 mark? 16:25:48 I don't think so. 16:26:01 try it :) 16:26:04 AOLserver is threaded! 16:26:09 you need to worry about "cd" in tcl 16:26:17 and don't use "cd" in tcl 16:26:28 you can't trust what your current directory is 16:26:36 yeah I figured that much 16:26:40 I have a better solution 16:27:06 Excellent. 16:27:13 * davb does not feel like working.... 16:29:50 me neither 16:30:06 I'm just going to put the mibs into the place where the program looks for default mib defs 16:31:41 oh 16:31:54 Mark, do you know if it's possible to pass new parameters to the kernel without rebooting? 16:36:36 depends on the parameter i think 16:36:40 Well 16:36:48 I need to tell my mouse to use 0x200 16:36:50 you can change the shared memory settings by catting into /proc somthing I think 16:37:35 here's the prob 16:37:49 When I use my KVM switch the mouse pointer gets all wild and crazy 16:38:09 I fixed it on my other machine by recompiling the kernel with the 0x200 flag for the mouse driver 16:38:17 So I want to fix my other box 16:38:22 but it's been up for 111 days 16:38:35 Not really up for rebooting it to install the other custom kernel 16:46:33 yeah 16:46:48 yeah? 16:48:58 yeah! 16:49:11 �que? 16:54:27 wuh? 16:56:02 I see 16:56:04 tell me more 17:00:45 * davb works on a dorky flyer for another non-paying client... 17:01:42 that is a client who has no money, but may have some someday.... 17:04:28 markd2 is now known as javamonkeybot 17:04:33 javamonkeybot is now known as markd2 17:06:14 davb has quit (Ping timeout for davb[alb-66-24-206-3.nycap.rr.com]) 17:09:30 davb (dave@alb-66-24-206-3.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 17:09:33 argh 17:09:38 * davb saves up for a Mac 17:12:32 abbaJ (jabba@adsl-65-65-96-86.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) has joined #openacs 17:14:46 vinod (vinod@207-172-255-220.s1236.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com) has joined #openacs 17:15:17 Hello abbaJ, vinod 17:15:22 howdy 17:17:08 hello! 17:19:07 friggin' gcc is jacked 17:34:28 vinod has quit (changing universes) 17:35:39 vinod (vinod@207-172-255-220.s1236.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com) has joined #openacs 17:40:56 wb vnd 17:42:41 Vowel shortage markd2? 17:44:43 hwdymrkd2 17:45:33 I feel like abbrving today 17:47:53 that markd2 - he doesn't do much useful stuff, but he sure is efficient about it ;-) 17:48:26 or maybe he's learned to speak in "soundex" 17:48:54 lol 17:49:40 markd2 is now known as intermediarkd2 17:53:02 heh 17:53:05 markdork2 17:53:22 mark2d2 17:56:19 * markd2 beeps, whirs, and whistles 18:00:11 gah 18:00:18 Heyyyyy it's vinod! 18:02:52 abbaJ has quit (Ping timeout for abbaJ[adsl-65-65-96-86.dsl.austtx.swbell.net]) 18:05:14 hey Psychephylax 18:06:20 hi 18:06:37 lunch time 18:06:44 bbl 18:18:27 vinod has quit (changing universes) 18:26:34 talli (talli@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #openacs 18:26:44 hey guys 18:26:48 ola has quit (Ping timeout for ola[as3-1-3.mal.s.bonet.se]) 18:29:16 ola (ola@as3-1-3.mal.s.bonet.se) has joined #openacs 18:33:43 hi talli 18:50:50 http://discuss.andredurand.com/iame 18:50:50 B: http://discuss.andredurand.com/iame from davb 18:50:56 B:|Project IAME 18:50:56 titled item B 18:51:14 B:"The goal of Project IAME ("I AM ME") is to define the requirements, technologies and architectures required to deliver the world's first universal identity schema and associated software infrastructure." 18:51:14 commented item B 18:51:24 back 18:52:16 oh 18:52:22 I thought that was a lower-case L 18:55:25 heh 18:58:39 lol 18:58:56 Gotta love corporate environments 18:58:58 nothing works 19:01:07 heh 19:04:09 They blame the printer problems on me 19:04:10 of course 19:04:46 AaronSw has quit (Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.0.1) 19:15:02 * markd2 blames everything on you 19:15:47 yeah I blame it on myself too 19:16:00 foreach bad_thing bad_things_dine { 19:16:12 puts "It's your fault!" 19:16:12 } 19:16:17 s/dine/done 19:17:20 Do I need a complex procedure to do simple inserts? 19:17:33 nope 19:17:52 db_dml spork "insert into cookie_recipients values ('markd')" 19:18:01 right 19:22:45 how about this: 19:22:47 foreach cm_ping $ping_list { 19:22:47 ns_dml insert "insert into snmp_cm_pings (incident_id,ping_time) values ($incident_id, $cm_ping)" 19:22:47 } 19:26:40 sure 19:26:45 us db_dml 19:26:53 s/us/use 19:27:26 ah 19:31:34 ok 19:31:42 if I have a list which is 6 things long 19:32:02 and I don't need the first one 19:32:09 wait 19:34:40 AaronSw (Snak@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #openacs 19:40:33 i'm very confused 19:40:48 I can't add my script in without making the thing crash 19:41:32 but my script works 19:43:27 someone should slap me with a sausage 19:43:48 homey don't do that 19:44:31 docwolf (docwolf@adsl-63-198-103.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #openacs 19:46:03 lol 19:53:17 mmmmm 19:53:19 SImpsons 19:53:29