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01:04:59 <Psychephylax> hey Mark
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01:05:48 <docwolf> haha
01:08:13 <Psychephylax> heh
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01:13:19 <Psychephylax> :]
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12:50:03 <davb> http://www.advogato.org/article/374.html
12:50:04 <chump> A: http://www.advogato.org/article/374.html from davb
12:50:17 <davb> A:|How non-programmers use documentation
12:50:17 <chump> titled item A
12:50:34 <davb> A: Excellent discussion about writing documentation for non-technical users
12:50:35 <chump> commented item A
12:51:39 <markd2> * markd2 makes a note for the next time he makes a C API
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13:52:17 <davb> argharghargh! All my XML code is mysteriously failing :(
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19:30:10 <docwolf> hi, everybody!
19:32:04 <docwolf> looking for any samba experts...
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20:42:50 <Psychephylax> :D
20:42:54 <Psychephylax> Samba?
20:43:11 <Psychephylax> * Psychephylax starts dancing
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21:01:24 <docwolf> hi again
21:05:53 <hazmat> hi
21:05:59 <hazmat> off to buy a computer
21:25:28 <docwolf> hi hazmat
21:25:31 <docwolf> good luck with it
21:25:34 <docwolf> i'm here fighting with SuSE
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22:42:12 <talli> hey guys
22:43:42 <markd2> yo
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22:52:53 <docwolf> hey all
22:55:54 <davb> hi
22:56:04 <docwolf> how's it going?
22:56:47 <davb> not bad. avoiding work etc...
22:57:19 <docwolf> cool
22:59:03 <docwolf> do you have any experience with linux?
22:59:58 <davb> some. I use it every day, I learn what I need to make it work :)
23:05:27 <davb> Anyway go ahead and ask a question.
23:05:49 <markd2> "it can't be done, sorry"
23:06:52 <docwolf> haha
23:06:57 <docwolf> i can't get samba to work
23:07:10 <docwolf> i just want to be able to print on a machine that is using winME
23:07:39 <docwolf> i'd like an easy setup program, but i'm afraid to look for one myself
23:07:44 <docwolf> since most open-source software like that
23:07:49 <docwolf> is half-finished garbage.
23:08:06 <davb> Ah.
23:08:24 <hazmat> swat
23:08:29 <davb> That is something I have never accomplished. Actually I can't even print on the printer connected to my machine, and I have a good install program :)
23:08:40 <docwolf> haha. i feel your pain, davb
23:08:52 <davb> so I just don't print. Saves paper.
23:09:00 <hazmat> opensource is only free if you free time
23:09:11 <hazmat> insert "have"
23:09:37 <markd2> yep.  reinstalling windows and applying service packs takes zero time
23:09:59 <davb> Can you see the printer share in samba?
23:10:01 <docwolf> on a brighter note, I installed SuSE 7.3 today, and besides this samba problem..
23:10:45 <docwolf> davb: it was weird.  Suse showed me the printer name during the setup (so samba must have been working at some level), but now i can't print, and I can't see directories on that box either
23:11:09 <davb> ah. THat unfortunately is the extent of my knowledge.
23:11:36 <docwolf> anyway, besides these pain-in-the-ass problems that linux always has, SuSE is actually getting pretty polished.
23:12:04 <davb> Great. I'll have to try it next time.
23:12:10 <docwolf> everything else seems to "work".. (most importantly, i was able to watch simpsons MPG/AVIs without the need for any bizarro acrobatics.
23:12:23 <markd2> * markd2 is a SuSE weenie
23:12:24 <davb> that is very nice.
23:12:47 <docwolf> it looks like the cash that IBM has been dumping into SuSE is paying off.
23:13:01 <hazmat> * hazmat likes suse
23:13:15 <docwolf> and the latest KDE build (which SuSE uses) is pretty darn good.
23:13:16 <hazmat> i think suse has always been one of the more polished distros
23:13:33 <docwolf> (being able to watch simpsons out of the box = good. :-) )
23:13:51 <markd2> they seem to have the 'professional' thing down that RedHat seems to miss
23:14:12 <docwolf> but this whole samba issue is annoying.  doesn't SuSE have some sort of front end for configuring it?
23:15:02 <markd2> dunno.  I avoid windows
23:17:32 <docwolf> any idea how to stop and re-start samba?
23:19:11 <hazmat> docwolf: have you tried swat or yast?
23:19:26 <markd2> I always read yast as yeast
23:19:33 <docwolf> i've used yast2, I couldn't find the settings
23:19:35 <hazmat> docwolf: restarting why not /etc/rc.d/init.d/samba reload
23:19:42 <docwolf> (like not even a place to tell it what workgroup to log on to)
23:19:44 <hazmat> docwolf: yast1
23:19:49 <docwolf> i'm just going to edit the conf file myself
23:19:56 <docwolf> hazmat: thanks
23:19:59 <hazmat> probably best, stay close to the text
23:20:33 <hazmat> docwolf: np, i'm just taking pot shots though...
23:20:40 <davb> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-10.html
23:20:40 <chump> B: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-10.html from davb
23:20:53 <docwolf> davb: cool. thanks.
23:21:04 <davb> B:|SMB Howto-Sharing a Windows Printer With Linux Machines
23:21:04 <chump> titled item B
23:21:07 <davb> np I need it to
23:21:19 <docwolf> the conspiracy theorist in me is saying that the last update on the winME box has broken samba... ;-)
23:25:04 <docwolf> hmm..
23:25:22 <docwolf> can't even find samba stuff in yast1
23:25:26 <docwolf> : 
23:38:24 <docwolf> does inetd need to be running for samba to work?
23:42:01 <docwolf> uh oh
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23:51:25 <Psychephylax> hmmm
23:51:48 <Psychephylax> Who's awake?
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23:54:00 <davb> Me?
23:55:17 <Psychephylax> good
23:55:20 <Psychephylax> help me figure out what to eat
23:55:58 <Psychephylax> Food is not a smart answer =)
23:58:14 <Psychephylax> Dave?
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