00:01:00 hi adler 00:01:10 excellent spork! 00:01:14 yeah 00:01:15 i know 00:01:17 they're great 00:01:21 they have business sized ones 00:01:28 stick 'em in your wallet and hand them out 00:01:35 I think that's an excellent idea for interviews 00:01:47 you can just give those out with all the things you have done 00:01:50 who'd you buy em from? I know some of the show vendors. 00:01:57 I dunno 00:02:04 I didn't catch the name 00:02:15 it wasn't my "regular" dealer because he doesn't sell this type of stuff 00:02:29 Dave, MarketPro people? 00:02:58 Yeah. I did shows a couple of years ago. Never out by you though. 00:03:34 hi guys. 00:03:53 graszew has quit 00:04:00 Ah 00:04:05 you're upstate right? 00:04:08 You know anyone from NJ? 00:04:16 you probably heard of them 00:04:23 they're really good businessmen =) 00:04:24 I'm in NJ right now. 00:04:27 heh 00:05:12 I'm experimenting with my laptop's noise. It just got really quiet. I hope that's the hd and not the cpu fan. 00:06:47 spork: yes. albanyish. except they change names all the time :) 00:06:54 Sometimes I think this VAIO is going to take off like a jet. So, who wants to hear more about this? 00:07:02 me me me! 00:07:10 Dave, have you ever heard of Kia Tech? 00:08:16 heh.. sorry, must forage for dinner. 00:08:25 nope. 00:08:32 dang, they're really good 00:08:43 I buy 95% of my stuff there 00:08:48 they love me and I love them 00:09:08 you get your 'stuff' at Hooters? 00:09:11 I havent been to too many shows these days. The selection sucks up here. Online is better. 00:09:55 brb 00:09:58 davb has quit 00:10:00 Their prices are a bit higher than half the vendors but I have never had a problem with them and the time I did (my driver cd) was busted they exchanged it without a problem 00:10:17 davb has joined #openacs 00:10:20 wb 00:10:22 Their prices are a bit higher than half the vendors but I have never had a problem with them and the time I did (my driver cd) was busted they exchanged it without a problem 00:10:37 The laptop keyboard works, but its too small when you are right next to a real one. 00:10:44 Yeah that is good to get a reliable vendor. 00:11:06 indeed it is 00:11:08 adler has quit 00:11:18 I always buy stuff from them just because I like them =) 00:11:38 i got 256mb of PC133 from them today for 20$ 00:11:43 I couldn't resist 00:11:49 I don't know what box to put that in though 00:11:51 Well, at that price, who could? 00:11:54 Mine! 00:11:57 heh 00:12:11 Well, Win98 Se can't use more than xxx .... but I don't remember what xxx was for 00:12:25 really. that sucks. 00:12:30 switch to 2000 00:14:01 well, I have a Win2K box 00:14:03 Windows2000 running for 1wk 3days 17hrs 38mins 00:14:12 But it's already got 640 megs 00:14:21 I was hoping to stick more into Win98 00:14:54 640MB should be enough RAM for anyone! 00:15:01 heh 00:15:04 you'd think so right? 00:15:05 lol 00:15:48 Well I am running into the limits of 320 at the moment with a large photoshop file. Also my CPU is S . . . L . . . O. . . o . . . O . . . W 00:17:57 in 98? 00:18:30 yeah. Its a 500 AMD K6/2 00:19:21 hmmm 00:20:26 Psychephylax has joined #openacs 00:20:32 ;) 00:20:42 not again! 00:20:55 * davb volunteers for something else he is totally not qualified to do. 00:21:27 Apparently I am the Oracle SWS -> acs-service-contract guy now. 00:22:23 heh 00:22:42 back 00:22:50 Spork has quit 00:22:52 Both OS X and Windows XP access the Internet in a variety of ways. But let's take a look at the two opposite approaches. While Mac OS X's Internet support is designed for the convenience of you, the user, Windows XP's Internet support is designed for the convenience of Microsoft or its assorted partner vendors. 00:23:11 from: http://www.cnet.com/software/0-429669-8-7618644-1.html?tag=ld | OS Death Match 00:26:12 graszew has joined #openacs 00:26:29 hazmat has quit 00:30:06 hi everybody 00:30:10 hello 00:30:27 hi 00:30:30 brb 00:30:33 heh 00:30:33 davb has quit 00:31:21 I want to add a new mimetype to AOLserver mimetypes list but I can't. 00:32:04 When I write " ns_param .html_pl "text/html; charset=iso-8859-2" into 00:33:06 and use ns_guesstype "foo.html_pl", it gets */* 00:33:36 What's wrong with my configuration? 00:35:34 Interesting. 00:35:34 What makes you believe you can include the charset info? 00:36:47 When I write "ns_param .html_pl text/html" , ns_guesstype gets the same - */* 00:36:48 Jerry! 00:36:49 =) 00:37:07 Okay, I would try fixing that first... 00:37:16 Hi Psychephylax.... 00:37:55 Hmm. ns_param .html_p odd/ball works for me. 00:38:02 markd2 has joined #openacs 00:38:05 ns_guesstype bob.html_p returns odd/ball 00:38:13 hi Mark 00:38:18 greeblinga 00:38:26 greeblinga to you earthling 00:38:44 oops, should have been "greeblings" 00:38:52 greeblinga is actually a horrible curse. my apologies 00:38:58 rofl 00:39:05 * Psychephylax dies from Marks curse 00:39:12 A curse! We shall attack at once! 00:39:13 OK I'll test it again 00:39:39 Ah, the bacteria, we were not immune to your earthbound bacteria 00:39:48 lol @ jerryasher 00:40:03 heh 00:40:21 (homage to Orson Welles) 00:42:04 the charset stuff is returned from ns_guesstype too, though I am not sure it will have any effect on anything. 00:42:30 ns_guesstype bob.html_pl returns "odd/ball; charset=iso-8859-2" 00:43:45 It doesn't work for me. bob.html_pl returns only "*/*" 00:44:34 Well, unfortunately there is not a single ns_log statement within aolserver/nsd/mimetypes.c. 00:44:39 davb has joined #OpenACS 00:44:48 Do you have ANY mimetypes in your ns/mimetypes section? 00:45:41 I have Default, NoExtension, .html, .adp and .tcl 00:45:56 hi 00:46:08 Have you modified your config.tcl at all? 00:46:13 Is this a config.tcl file? 00:46:33 :) ofcourse 00:46:55 well, just checking... 00:47:05 I have aolserver 3.3.1ad13 00:48:06 what does the .html line say? 00:48:29 ns_param .html "text/html; charset=utf-8" 00:48:45 I moved my server over to my cable modem and its still screwed up. I changed NICs and everything. I am not amused. 00:48:58 Interesting. Did you add that? my aolserver3.3ad13 doesn't have that at all. 00:49:31 Well what happens when you copy that exact line and mutate it just a bit? 00:49:42 ns_param .htmlfoo text/html or something? 00:50:05 Do you grok C? 00:50:29 When I try to override it, ns_guesstype gets the same. I can't override it 00:50:31 * markd2 groks C 00:51:03 * Psychephylax forks off another child 00:51:16 so you're the one causing the overpopulation problem! 00:51:18 I'm not suggesting you override that one, I think that one comes hardcoded. 00:51:32 no, he's the one eating babies. sicko. 00:51:43 ah 00:51:48 thats much more acceptable 00:52:02 hi markd2 00:53:09 If you grok c take a look at aolserver/nsd/mimetypes.c. 00:53:24 Unfortunately I have a date with Costco. 00:53:58 Anyony know the config file I need to edit to change the default route? 00:54:16 lol 00:54:18 Costco 00:54:22 my friend works for Costco 00:54:28 he's a manager 00:54:34 arem 00:54:38 aren't they all? 00:54:45 :) 00:54:48 no 00:54:54 he actually gets "paid" 00:55:00 Excellent. 00:55:11 yeah 00:55:13 Well I'm going since it's happy hour now. 00:55:14 Kidding. 00:55:20 hahaha 00:55:26 * Psychephylax follows right behind JA 00:55:30 I just got back 00:55:34 but I won't mind going for round 2 00:56:31 ns_guesstype "weird looking potsticker at end of aisle" 00:56:48 cleanup on aisle 37 00:56:58 * davb thinks Psychephylax was referring to happy hour 00:57:28 bleh. hmm. ns_guesstype "weird looking taquito at end of aisle" 00:57:56 you guys are insane 00:58:11 s/insane/inane/ 00:58:58 Gotta go, only 60 more costco minutes in the day. 00:59:46 lol 01:00:30 yeah I am in! 01:05:22 oh shit 01:07:07 what's up docwolf? 01:07:36 this storm looks like it's heading my way 01:07:55 ugh 01:23:52 I've found mistake in my config file. 01:24:32 MIMETypes section shoulg be called ns/mimetypes instead of ns/server/${server}/MimeTypes 01:25:11 Now everything works !!! 01:25:31 Thanks for advices 01:51:35 til has quit 01:53:44 * markd2 listens to squirell nut zippers 01:53:55 cool! 01:54:15 does anyone know anything about the oracle site-wide-search? 01:55:18 outside of I can't get it to work, not much 01:55:21 heh 01:55:52 I think I need to take it apart. I just need it to run an index when I say and spit up results when I am looking for something. 01:57:04 graszew has quit 01:57:47 my major malfunction right now is that when I enter stuff into sws savvy apps (bboard, commets, etc), empty entries are being put in the central indexed-stuff tables 01:57:53 and not the stuff that should be going in 01:58:00 that is bad. 01:58:36 yeah 01:58:39 but I haven't dug into it deeply 01:58:44 I am supposed to fix it so it works with the new search package and acs-service contract. So each package will tell sws what content it has and actually deliver the content to the indexing package. 01:59:24 so bboard will say "hey I have a new message for you to index", the sws says "ok give me the item_id and content of the message" 02:00:17 later when someone enters a search page, the search package says "give me all the pages that contain foo" and the sws package gives up the ids. Or something very similar. 02:00:52 also i think all the access-control stuff is in search. which is good. the searching and indexing are seperate packages. 02:01:59 good 02:02:13 that was a continual embarassment for ad.com - Secret Stuff showing up in site wide searches 02:02:19 heh 02:06:13 its all in pl/sql goody! 02:06:23 pl/sql for a better world 02:06:36 except the procs that remove all the ors and ands from a query. interesting, it just throws them away apparently. 02:06:50 heh 02:07:04 ack, there is an sql file for every different package. 02:08:28 how do I load an sql file with sqlplus? 02:11:26 @file-name 02:11:32 easy. thanks! 02:11:33 having the .sql extension is optional 02:12:11 * AaronSw disconnects 02:14:26 been a long day. catch folks l8r 02:14:27 markd2 has quit 02:18:47 * AaronSw reconnects 02:28:26 * AaronSw disconnects 02:36:17 * AaronSw reconnects 02:40:18 hazmat has joined #openacs 03:06:33 doc where are you located -- I thought you were NYC, but I gather not. 03:07:11 are you still helping count ballots? 03:18:51 fsk 03:18:54 I hate computers 03:19:08 Anyone want an Athlon 750? 03:19:15 448mb of ram 03:19:19 45gig hard drive 03:19:26 cd burner 03:19:30 TNT2 video card? 03:23:15 yo 03:23:27 jerry: boca raton, florida. 03:23:56 yes, we are still counting ballots :-) 03:39:00 When is the storm to hit? 03:39:16 Psychephylax, ship me the computer, thanks! 04:02:58 Psychephylax: how much? 04:03:21 Psychephylax: I'll pick it up tomorrow :) 04:03:32 storm hits in 24 hours 04:04:03 i'll trade i've got a p-233MMX with 48MB.... 04:04:27 looks like it's gonna miss us, though the weather will still be pretty severe 04:26:56 jerryasher has quit 06:36:55 * AaronSw disconnects 06:47:00 * AaronSw reconnects 12:59:02 shagster has quit 13:40:48 davb has quit 13:55:38 AaronSw has quit 13:55:38 Psychephylax has quit 13:55:42 AaronSw has joined #openacs 13:55:42 Psychephylax has joined #openacs 13:55:44 ChanServ has changed the topic to: Welcome to the OpenACS Helpline | http://www.openacs.org/ 13:56:23 AaronSw has quit 13:56:23 Psychephylax has quit 13:56:42 AaronSw has joined #openacs 13:56:42 Psychephylax has joined #openacs 13:57:02 This channel is logged: http://www.blogspace.com/openacs/chatlogs/ and blogged: http://www.thedesignexperience.org/openacs/ircblog 14:57:43 shagster has joined #openacs 15:45:18 davb has joined #OpenACS 16:30:03 * AaronSw disconnects 17:02:07 markd2 has joined #openacs 17:20:44 yay! my brother in law is still alive! 17:23:32 markd2 has quit 17:38:43 markd2 has joined #openacs 17:43:38 docwolf has quit 17:53:24 markd2: that is good to hear! 17:54:48 chump has joined #openacs 17:54:52 Yippee! 17:55:03 dns is still not updated yet though. 17:57:36 hazmat is now known as lethedrinker 17:59:03 hi Chump 17:59:52 * markd2 is feeling lethargic 17:59:54 * markd2 naps 17:59:56 markd2 has quit 18:00:35 til has joined #openacs 18:01:21 * AaronSw reconnects 18:16:11 docwolf has joined #openacs 18:18:58 hi everybody 18:29:14 hello docwolf 18:32:55 can anyone get to http://www.thedesignexperience.org ? 18:53:33 * AaronSw disconnects 18:58:21 lethedrinker is now known as hazmat 18:58:55 davb: i can get to de.com 19:00:03 til has quit 19:03:52 my site? 19:05:44 yes 19:05:53 aha, must be my ISP 19:06:25 the web server is right next to this computer, but the DNS server is at another location. my ISPs DNS cache is apparently not updated yet. 19:06:38 thanks! 19:13:41 k2pts has joined #openacs 19:16:43 k2pts has left #openacs 19:37:55 vinod has joined #openacs 19:59:39 brb 19:59:43 davb has quit 21:03:41 adler has joined #openacs 21:03:48 chump! 21:04:07 http://www.thedesignexperience.org/openacs/ircblog 21:04:08 A: http://www.thedesignexperience.org/openacs/ircblog from adler 21:04:31 A: chump's comeback special 21:04:31 commented item A 21:20:26 fsck i hate computers 21:23:03 how do you feel about mobos? 21:24:09 Depends what kind 21:25:05 I'm considering a p3 oriented board--something where I can lower the voltage and use passive cooling 21:25:22 how do you feel about those? 21:27:20 I think they're evil 21:27:26 Any Intel based motherboard is evil 21:28:43 if you want to have a reaaally nice system 21:28:51 and you're not a cheap person like me... 21:29:09 Inwin IW-Q700 300W CAse 76$ 21:29:09 Thermaltake Case Fan7$ 21:29:09 Asus V8200 GeForce3328$ 21:29:09 Athlom MP 1.8Ghz x 2536$ 21:29:09 Crucial 256MB 2100DDR x 4140$ 21:29:10 Mitsumi 3.59$ 21:29:12 IBM Deskstar 60GXP 60gb x 2260$ 21:29:14 Sony 52x CD-ROM28$ 21:29:16 Pioneer 1x/2x DVD-R/RW480$ 21:29:18 Creative Labs Audigy Plat.170$ 21:29:20 3Com 905CX-TXM 100/10 NIC32$ 21:29:22 Globalwin Fan x 262$ 21:29:24 ____ 21:29:26 S&H75$ 21:29:28 Total2203$ 21:29:30 Plus: 21:29:32 Tyan MP Dual motherboard355$ 21:29:34 Total ~2600$ 21:29:49 * Psychephylax begins to drool 21:31:28 I'd like something cheap. And I also want to experiement with passive cooling. 21:31:43 the MP cooling system is very good 21:31:57 Takes about 10 minutes for the machine to shut down if fans fail 21:32:57 Failure is not a huge issue for my parent's print server. But I want to be able to sleep in that room when I stay with them. 21:33:22 I'm more concerned about idle temp. 21:33:45 oh 21:33:45 heh 21:33:48 Soz I can cool it with a nice heatsink and a temp-activated fan. 21:33:53 You need a print server? 21:34:07 Just get a 486 doing it 21:34:11 They don't even need a fan 21:34:13 Well, that's what they want. I want a openacs dev box. 21:34:18 hah 21:34:24 ok, that's not going to work out 21:34:37 unless it's not going to be a production machine =) 21:35:36 can you run oracle on a 486? 21:36:06 You can't run Oracle on a Pentium 3 lol 21:36:09 It's Oracle! 21:36:21 naw, just give a truckload of ram 21:36:48 ram is cool and quiet. 21:37:01 lol 21:37:10 Yeah I picked up 256mb of PC133 21:37:12 I couldn't resist 21:37:31 any other mobo recomendations? 21:37:32 this box has only 80 but my other ones have lots 21:37:34 Ummm 21:37:44 Well, I don't particularly like Pentium's 21:37:47 brb 21:38:01 I run 2 computers on and I sleep in the same room..lol 21:47:31 maybe I'm just paranoid. 21:47:44 do you have a link for the MP's cooling abilities 21:52:22 ummm 21:52:28 lemme see if i have the video 21:52:49 hah 21:53:52 3 megs 21:54:06 You do realize MP = MultiProcessor 21:54:33 Might be a bit overboard for your Print Server ;) 21:54:45 But definetly a + if you're going to stick Oracle on it 21:59:10 vinod has quit 22:14:28 and some traveling wilburies mp3s too 22:14:38 eh? 22:15:09 and office200 22:15:11 0 22:15:35 is this your server? 22:15:35 What are you talking about? 22:15:45 ahh shit 22:15:52 the index.html got erased again 22:16:16 heheh 22:17:18 I needed to pickup some Wesly Willis anyways 22:19:26 lol 22:20:52 monster ballads! 22:21:33 lol 22:21:53 actually, there are two servers 22:22:00 neverhere.com is the main one 22:22:05 and the 1085 is my machine 22:24:08 nice. 22:25:12 Did you watch the movie? 22:25:25 whatmovie? 22:25:51 the amd one 22:26:28 no. I'm on dialup. 22:26:33 lol 22:26:38 Dialup 22:27:37 verizon was supposed activate this line on Friday 22:27:48 those fuckers with their ppoe 22:28:02 s/pp/ppp/ 22:28:33 :) 22:28:48 dinner time 22:28:55 k bye bye 23:28:43 hazmat has quit 23:38:29 davb has joined #OpenACS 23:40:20 hi everyone! 23:40:33 hi davb 23:41:47 yeah! my DNS is updated. I can get to my own web site. 23:42:02 Now, to upgrade to openacs 4 23:44:40 Psychephylax has quit 23:46:59 fantastic 23:48:02 I never figured out the problem, instead I just moved the server to my house :) 23:53:06 adler: i think thats the video where the amd melts... 23:53:29 apparently if the fan fails, the cpu will cook itself in a second or two... 23:57:54 * davb creates a new oracle database