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18:19:19 <markd2> slow day today
18:31:40 <AaronSw> I'm busy trying to figure out what's up with http://www.openphd.net/W3C_Patent_Policy/
18:35:22 <markd2> guess the w3c sells out
20:56:59 <davb> ack!
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21:18:22 <rbm> so abook uses lbdb and mutt?
21:18:25 <rbm> err
21:20:57 <davb> AaronSw: seems to me that this idea was not publicised for some reason... All the comments are from yesterday and today except for a couple.
21:21:07 <AaronSw> Yes.
21:21:07 <davb> Hopefully someone will get the point.
21:21:36 <AaronSw> I sure hope so. I don't see how TimBL could approve this policy
21:21:42 <AaronSw> He's always been very against patnents
21:21:50 <rbm> moo?
21:22:46 <AaronSw> moo
21:22:54 <rbm> what's up everybody?
21:23:03 <rbm> What patent is TimBL for or against?
21:23:22 <AaronSw> rbm, see http://www.openphd.net/W3C_Patent_Policy/
21:24:14 <davb> Can TimBL not approve it? 
21:24:17 <davb> I commented.
21:24:32 <AaronSw> TimBL has veto power over all W3C docs at every stage
21:24:38 <davb> Aha.
21:24:45 <AaronSw> So for this to advance in W3C process it needs to get past tim
21:25:40 <davb> Well, I can understand the point that these corporations are important to W3C, but the patent system in the US is broken. At this point its just a way for large coporations to take advantage of their position and money ot make more money.
21:25:52 <davb> ohh that was good, should have put it in the email...
21:26:11 <rbm> TimBL is the man
21:26:23 <AaronSw> I dunno, the whole thing smells like some big mistake to me.
21:26:59 <davb> Yeah. It could screw up the mission of the W3C if it plays out like the worst case where Aode, Apple, HP, IBM and Microsoft control the internet. 
21:27:09 <davb> Of course, that is not necessarily what would happen.
21:39:11 <AaronSw> I weigh in: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-patentpolicy-comment/2001Sep/0531
21:40:23 <rbm> M$ will soon control the internet
21:51:54 <AaronSw> davb, did you receive same autoresponse as I?
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22:30:43 <davb> AaronSw: Yes.
22:48:03 <Psychephylax> owie
22:48:06 <Psychephylax> my head hurts
22:51:03 <davb> you can't fix oracle by banging your head against the monitor!
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23:33:25 <Psychephylax> hey dave
23:33:48 <davb> hi
23:34:34 <Psychephylax> ;)
23:34:42 <Psychephylax> I wasn't banging my head on the monitor trying to fix oracle
23:34:48 <Psychephylax> My boss got me sick
23:35:02 <Psychephylax> Anyone know how to turn time stamping of your own messages on in BitchX?
23:37:17 <davb> Oh, OK, I know I tried that once and it didn't work :)
23:37:30 <davb> Nope I use X-Chat, its preinstalled on my OS
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