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00:01:34 <andy__> hello all
00:01:40 <andy__> andy__ is now known as andyn
00:02:34 <andyn> anyone willing to help out a hopeless newbie?
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00:14:51 <wtem> Ok, I'm back and I'm ready to debug a function!
00:15:00 <wtem> here
00:15:07 <wtem> here's the definition
00:15:21 <wtem> oh yeah, i'm talking about pl-pgsql
00:15:25 <wtem> create function pa_album__new (varchar, integer, integer, boolean, integer, varchar, varchar, varchar, text, integer, timestamp, varchar, integer, timestamp, varchar)
00:15:25 <wtem> returns integer as '
00:15:25 <wtem>   declare
00:15:25 <wtem>     new__name           alias for $1;
00:15:25 <wtem>     new__album_id       alias for $2;
00:15:26 <wtem>     new__parent_id      alias for $3; -- default null
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00:16:41 <wtem> sorry about being an irc newbie
00:17:58 <wtem> ok, i'm trying to debug a function definition in pl-pgsql
00:25:40 <wtem> n
00:26:20 <wtem> nops
00:35:56 <wtem> nevermind
00:36:21 <wtem> just getting used to pgsql interface... mistook something that wasn
00:36:32 <wtem> 't an error for an error
00:43:10 <wtem> any one around?
00:43:25 <wtem> I now have a quick question...
00:43:55 <wtem> is NVL sql92 compliant?
00:44:18 <wtem> and if not what is the recommended way to replace it?
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00:52:49 <wtem> ok, on to rtfm...
00:57:53 <wtem> duh, coalesce...
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01:25:44 <talli> hey guys
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01:55:55 <wtem> any one available to offer a set of eyes?
01:57:02 <wtem> guess not
01:57:31 <wtem> time to call it a night for programming and prepare to hit the town then...
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02:10:44 <talli> hello? anybody here?
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04:33:33 <talli> heeel?
04:33:37 <talli> rbm you there?
04:33:45 <talli> got some questions for you, thought questions.
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05:31:26 <AaronSw> shoot, i keep missing talli
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06:51:06 <andy__> could someone tell me where the ad_footer is?
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07:02:48 <andy__> hello AaronSw
07:03:01 <AaronSw> hi there
07:03:10 <AaronSw> just heading off to bed and noticed my irc connection had died
07:03:21 <andy__> off to bed with you then
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07:03:37 <AaronSw> this client needs to do client side pings
07:03:40 <AaronSw> ok, c'yas later
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15:12:10 <AaronSw> http://www.dawn.com/
15:12:10 <chump> A: http://www.dawn.com/ from AaronSw
15:12:22 <AaronSw> A:|just testing something
15:12:23 <chump> titled item A
17:17:44 <rbm> A: commenting on the test Aaron made
17:17:44 <chump> commented item A
17:18:02 <AaronSw> :-)
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19:57:30 <lilo> [GlobalNotice] Okay, one more shot folks....in a few minutes....this configuration should be a bit more stable
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21:52:21 <AaronSw> Hey talli.
21:52:24 <AaronSw> Still in SF?
21:54:58 <AaronSw> Judging from your rDNS, i'd guess so.
21:56:49 <talli> ya, still in SF
21:57:14 <talli> brb
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22:09:59 <talli> hey guys
22:10:39 <davb> hi
22:14:23 <talli> hey dave, i managed to install the 2.4.9 debian kernel!
22:14:26 <talli> whoo hoo!
22:14:44 <talli> i seem to have forgotten how to set up networking on my box, though.
22:14:54 <talli> how do i set my DNS servers?
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22:38:56 <davb> Cool.
22:39:02 <davb> Argh missed him.
22:39:48 <davb> Talli, if you are using DHCP you don't need to set a dns server. Its is in /etc/resolv.conf (or there is a graphical network settings applet)
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22:57:56 <talli> hello?
22:58:15 <talli> i must admit i apologize, but i need help from any of the debian masters here.
23:02:39 <AaronSw> <davb> Talli, if you are using DHCP you don't need to set a dns server. Its is in /etc/resolv.conf (or there is a graphical network settings applet)
23:05:44 <talli> my prob is that for some reason i don't have /etc/resolv.conf
23:05:52 <AaronSw> ouch
23:06:41 <talli> what's that?
23:07:13 <AaronSw> a helpful channel on this network
23:07:19 <AaronSw> type /join #debian
23:07:38 <talli> oh, thanks
23:08:23 <davb> talli: weird. Is it progeny?
23:08:57 <talli> no, it's debian
23:09:04 <talli> i installed just the kernel
23:09:17 <talli> i don't have resolv.conf, so i created one
23:09:22 <talli> vi resolv.conf, etc.
23:09:27 <talli> and put in the nameservers
23:09:41 <talli> but is there a script i need to run in order to get it to recognize the servers?
23:09:46 <davb> sure, can't hurt. Is the network card starting up and binding to an IP address?
23:09:51 <davb> Nope it "just works"
23:09:56 <talli> ok
23:10:08 <talli> well, what does "Bind" mean?
23:10:12 <davb> wait thats not 100% right. You needs to edit hosts
23:10:40 <talli> what do i put there?
23:10:43 <davb> I have no idea :) type ifconfig, see it it lists your external ip address.
23:11:07 <talli> ya, does that
23:11:10 <davb> never mind. I am spreading misinformation.
23:11:14 <davb> OK. 
23:11:23 <talli> well, i have another question, too...
23:11:26 <davb> You are configuring the network by hand?
23:11:30 <talli> yeah
23:11:43 <davb> ick. I think there is a script somewhere or something....
23:11:56 <talli> i have installed the IP addr, i have set the netmask, and i set up resolv.conf
23:12:03 <talli> but get to ping.
23:12:08 <talli> do i need to restart something?
23:12:09 <davb> OK. you probably need a default route
23:12:35 <talli> how do i set that?
23:12:37 <davb> type route what does it say? 
23:12:39 <davb> man route
23:12:54 <davb> I am not sure... 
23:13:09 <davb> This is where my TCP/IP knowledge kinda fizzles out
23:13:17 <talli> ok will do that
23:13:28 <davb> You might also need a gateway set in there.
23:13:30 <talli> also, i'm trying to install XF86 4
23:13:37 <talli> i need to install debconf 1 to do it
23:13:37 <davb> Depends on your ISP
23:13:52 <davb> and you need to download it off the network?
23:13:52 <talli> but to do that, i need to update perl from 5.0 to 5.6
23:14:00 <talli> no, can't get it off the network :)
23:14:11 <talli> i saved the .deb on a cd
23:14:38 <davb> i think you can only use an actual debian CD with apt
23:14:55 <talli> when i do dpkg -i perl5.6.deb (or whatever the name is) it tells me that it can't switch perl5 base to perl 5.6
23:15:04 <talli> (yeah, not using apt)
23:15:28 <davb> you are diving right into debian!
23:15:41 <talli> yeah. it's kicking my ass
23:15:48 <talli> any idea how to fix this prob?
23:15:55 <talli> ok
23:16:14 <davb> As long as you ask a specific question, they are helpful. Just don't say, my system doesn't work.. how can I fix it?
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23:27:00 <wtem> hey, i just uploaded my mac os x howto
23:27:12 <davb> cool. now all I need is a mac!
23:27:21 <wtem> but the permissions on new-file-storage seemed weird
23:27:37 <wtem> do you mind seeing if you can access it at http://openacs.org/new-file-storage/one-file.tcl?file_id=217
23:27:46 <davb> ok
23:27:49 <wtem> thanks
23:28:35 <davb> it looks ok, the filename is html~ so it is not recognized as html
23:29:00 <davb> I downloaded it.
23:29:04 <wtem> doh
23:29:13 <wtem> ok, i'll edit it
23:29:50 <davb> apparently I can edit or write the file though...
23:29:59 <davb> at least it is offering my the options.
23:31:54 <wtem> hmm
23:31:59 <wtem> i updated it
23:32:07 <wtem> so that it is not the ~ file...
23:34:07 <wtem> wow, i can't figure out how you change the permissions
23:34:12 <wtem> that is messed up
23:34:26 <davb> weird.