IRC log of openacs on 2001-09-16

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topic is: OpenACS: Free web toolkit | http://openacs.org
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Users on #openacs: loggy andy__ rbm davb djg chump netgod KarlL AaronSw shagster_ abbaJ GEM_
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00:01:34 [andy__]
hello all
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anyone willing to help out a hopeless newbie?
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Ok, I'm back and I'm ready to debug a function!
00:15:00 [wtem]
here
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here's the definition
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oh yeah, i'm talking about pl-pgsql
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create function pa_album__new (varchar, integer, integer, boolean, integer, varchar, varchar, varchar, text, integer, timestamp, varchar, integer, timestamp, varchar)
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returns integer as '
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declare
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new__name alias for $1;
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new__album_id alias for $2;
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new__parent_id alias for $3; -- default null
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00:16:41 [wtem]
sorry about being an irc newbie
00:17:58 [wtem]
ok, i'm trying to debug a function definition in pl-pgsql
00:25:40 [wtem]
n
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nops
00:35:56 [wtem]
nevermind
00:36:21 [wtem]
just getting used to pgsql interface... mistook something that wasn
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't an error for an error
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any one around?
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I now have a quick question...
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is NVL sql92 compliant?
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and if not what is the recommended way to replace it?
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ok, on to rtfm...
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duh, coalesce...
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01:25:44 [talli]
hey guys
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01:55:55 [wtem]
any one available to offer a set of eyes?
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guess not
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time to call it a night for programming and prepare to hit the town then...
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hello? anybody here?
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04:33:33 [talli]
heeel?
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rbm you there?
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got some questions for you, thought questions.
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05:31:26 [AaronSw]
shoot, i keep missing talli
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06:51:06 [andy__]
could someone tell me where the ad_footer is?
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07:02:48 [andy__]
hello AaronSw
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hi there
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just heading off to bed and noticed my irc connection had died
07:03:21 [andy__]
off to bed with you then
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07:03:37 [AaronSw]
this client needs to do client side pings
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ok, c'yas later
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15:12:10 [AaronSw]
http://www.dawn.com/
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A: http://www.dawn.com/ from AaronSw
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A:|just testing something
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titled item A
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A: commenting on the test Aaron made
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commented item A
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:-)
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topic is: OpenACS: Free web toolkit | http://openacs.org
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Users on #openacs: loggy AaronSw rbm GEM_ wtem davb chump netgod KarlL shagster_ abbaJ
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19:12:01 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] Hi all. Services will be down for 15 minutes, perhaps longer. We'll take it down in about 5 minutes. Apologies for the inconvenience.
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19:52:00 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] Please bear with us all, as we reconnect services in a new configuration
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[GlobalNotice] Okay, one more shot folks....in a few minutes....this configuration should be a bit more stable
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20:03:11 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] Okay folks, here goes. Expect some splitting as we attempt to connect services in a new configuration. Apologies for the inconvenience.
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20:05:13 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] That looks like a more reliable connection. Thanks to everyone for your patience, it looks as if we're done.
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21:52:21 [AaronSw]
Hey talli.
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Still in SF?
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Judging from your rDNS, i'd guess so.
21:56:49 [talli]
ya, still in SF
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brb
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22:09:59 [talli]
hey guys
22:10:39 [davb]
hi
22:14:23 [talli]
hey dave, i managed to install the 2.4.9 debian kernel!
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whoo hoo!
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i seem to have forgotten how to set up networking on my box, though.
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how do i set my DNS servers?
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22:38:56 [davb]
Cool.
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Argh missed him.
22:39:48 [davb]
Talli, if you are using DHCP you don't need to set a dns server. Its is in /etc/resolv.conf (or there is a graphical network settings applet)
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hello?
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i must admit i apologize, but i need help from any of the debian masters here.
23:02:39 [AaronSw]
<davb> Talli, if you are using DHCP you don't need to set a dns server. Its is in /etc/resolv.conf (or there is a graphical network settings applet)
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my prob is that for some reason i don't have /etc/resolv.conf
23:05:52 [AaronSw]
ouch
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what's that?
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a helpful channel on this network
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type /join #debian
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oh, thanks
23:08:23 [davb]
talli: weird. Is it progeny?
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no, it's debian
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i installed just the kernel
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i don't have resolv.conf, so i created one
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vi resolv.conf, etc.
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and put in the nameservers
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but is there a script i need to run in order to get it to recognize the servers?
23:09:46 [davb]
sure, can't hurt. Is the network card starting up and binding to an IP address?
23:09:51 [davb]
Nope it "just works"
23:09:56 [talli]
ok
23:10:08 [talli]
well, what does "Bind" mean?
23:10:12 [davb]
wait thats not 100% right. You needs to edit hosts
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what do i put there?
23:10:43 [davb]
I have no idea :) type ifconfig, see it it lists your external ip address.
23:11:07 [talli]
ya, does that
23:11:10 [davb]
never mind. I am spreading misinformation.
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OK.
23:11:23 [talli]
well, i have another question, too...
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You are configuring the network by hand?
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yeah
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ick. I think there is a script somewhere or something....
23:11:56 [talli]
i have installed the IP addr, i have set the netmask, and i set up resolv.conf
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but get to ping.
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do i need to restart something?
23:12:09 [davb]
OK. you probably need a default route
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how do i set that?
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type route what does it say?
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man route
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I am not sure...
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This is where my TCP/IP knowledge kinda fizzles out
23:13:17 [talli]
ok will do that
23:13:28 [davb]
You might also need a gateway set in there.
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also, i'm trying to install XF86 4
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i need to install debconf 1 to do it
23:13:37 [davb]
Depends on your ISP
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and you need to download it off the network?
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but to do that, i need to update perl from 5.0 to 5.6
23:14:00 [talli]
no, can't get it off the network :)
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i saved the .deb on a cd
23:14:38 [davb]
i think you can only use an actual debian CD with apt
23:14:55 [talli]
when i do dpkg -i perl5.6.deb (or whatever the name is) it tells me that it can't switch perl5 base to perl 5.6
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(yeah, not using apt)
23:15:28 [davb]
you are diving right into debian!
23:15:41 [talli]
yeah. it's kicking my ass
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any idea how to fix this prob?
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ok
23:16:14 [davb]
As long as you ask a specific question, they are helpful. Just don't say, my system doesn't work.. how can I fix it?
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23:27:00 [wtem]
hey, i just uploaded my mac os x howto
23:27:12 [davb]
cool. now all I need is a mac!
23:27:21 [wtem]
but the permissions on new-file-storage seemed weird
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do you mind seeing if you can access it at http://openacs.org/new-file-storage/one-file.tcl?file_id=217
23:27:46 [davb]
ok
23:27:49 [wtem]
thanks
23:28:35 [davb]
it looks ok, the filename is html~ so it is not recognized as html
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I downloaded it.
23:29:04 [wtem]
doh
23:29:13 [wtem]
ok, i'll edit it
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apparently I can edit or write the file though...
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at least it is offering my the options.
23:31:54 [wtem]
hmm
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i updated it
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so that it is not the ~ file...
23:34:07 [wtem]
wow, i can't figure out how you change the permissions
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that is messed up
23:34:26 [davb]
weird.