IRC log of openacs on 2001-09-11

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topic is: OpenACS: Free web toolkit | http://openacs.org
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Users on #openacs: loggy CAFEBABE charles davb AaronSw KarlL chump rbm abbaJ GEM shagster
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00:50:45 [davb]
ls
00:50:48 [davb]
oops
01:30:56 [shagster]
Hmmm.....
01:31:11 [davb]
yes?
01:31:41 [shagster]
doesn't appear if clickthough works
01:31:56 [davb]
Oracle or Postgresql?
01:32:02 [shagster]
postgresql
01:32:03 [davb]
You came to the right place.
01:32:08 [davb]
I was responsible for porting.
01:32:18 [shagster]
Okay, I'm responsible for testing :)
01:32:24 [davb]
What sort of problem are you having? Is it just not inserting the data?
01:32:36 [shagster]
Yep, not inserting data
01:32:56 [davb]
Are you calling the proc to generate the clickthrough links?
01:33:09 [shagster]
first question (saving me from looking at code) does it work the same as 3.x ?
01:33:18 [davb]
no idea. I never used 3.x
01:33:27 [shagster]
He....
01:33:43 [davb]
You have to call a proc I forget the name of to generate a link that goes through clickthrough.
01:34:00 [shagster]
Ahh..okay...let me look a bit deeper...no docs for it
01:34:07 [davb]
hmmmm.
01:35:17 [davb]
Hey you are right. I should probably do one.
01:35:45 [shagster]
Well, Once I figure it out, I'll have some docs for it too :)
01:37:00 [davb]
you call clickthrough_href URL
01:37:06 [shagster]
Okay....
01:37:13 [davb]
wait thats wrong...
01:37:48 [davb]
or clickthrough_link which has more options.
01:38:13 [davb]
<a href="[clickthrough_href URL]">
01:38:21 [shagster]
Okay....
01:39:04 [davb]
or Here is a link right here [clickthrough_link URL link_contents link attributes]
01:39:29 [davb]
link_contents is the stuff between the <a> </a> tags. Attributes go inside the <a> tag.
01:39:52 [davb]
Thanks for testing!
01:39:58 [shagster]
sure :)
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06:08:18 [KarlL]
Trying to get OpenACS 4 going. Building AOLserver v3.3+ad13. (That's the right one, right?)
06:08:37 [KarlL]
Getting gmake[2]: *** No rule to make target `libtcl83g.a'. Stop.
06:09:02 [KarlL]
I know this is related to --enable-symbols being specified in the configure of Tcl 8. (FreeBSD)
06:09:32 [KarlL]
I also know AOLserver 3.4 in the FreeBSD ports directory builds OK without patches. Anyone know the answer and feel like saving me the trouble of figuring it out?
06:48:05 [KarlL]
I solved my problem. Anyone need build instructions for OpenACS under FreeBSD?
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07:20:26 [PascalS]
mornin
07:20:35 [KarlL]
hey
07:21:17 [KarlL]
I'm getting an interrupted system call sourcing /web/openacs-4/packages/acs-bootstrap-installer/installer/packages-install.tcl -- anyone seen that one?
07:21:54 [PascalS]
not yet
07:22:17 [KarlL]
ok
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greetings
13:33:48 [rbm]
greetings earthling
13:36:22 [shagster]
Wow, World Trade Center hit by 2 planes
13:40:17 [rbm]
same day?
13:40:39 [GEM]
each building, within 18 minutes
13:40:48 [shagster]
yea..not shit...
13:41:55 [GEM]
incredible. there's footage of the second plane hitting the building
13:42:40 [GEM]
shit! someone crashed into the pentagon
13:42:46 [shagster]
Yep....
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SOB
13:43:24 [rbm]
Is today official crash day or something?
13:43:51 [rbm]
I better not gt my car out if it is :)
13:44:03 [rbm]
is /. down?
13:44:12 [shagster]
looks like hte use is under attack at this point
13:44:17 [rbm]
Their MySQL probably crashed again.
13:49:20 [GEM]
today is clearly the start of someone's war on the US. they are in serious trouble
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13:53:07 [GEM]
hmm....I can get to /. - the top story is this
13:56:25 [davb]
The second plane was hijacked from Boston apparently
13:57:07 [GEM]
it's scary to think how often I flew out of Boston
13:57:39 [davb]
It's not certain which plane they are talking about. All air traffic in the US is stopped.
13:58:35 [davb]
All tunnels and bridges in NY also are closed.
13:59:30 [davb]
cnn is down, msnbc is overloaded
14:01:15 [markd2]
so much for scalable web architectures
14:01:18 [davb]
another explosion at the second tower
14:01:33 [davb]
Well CNN is in NYC
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empire state building camera appears down too
14:04:22 [rbm]
holy cow!
14:04:44 [rbm]
CNN is running JSPs (right?) an MSNBC is running ASP
14:04:45 [markd2]
you and that cow thing...
14:04:55 [rbm]
s/cow/crap/
14:05:02 [rbm]
* rbm turns on the TV
14:05:05 [davb]
I think CNN's connection/electricity is gone
14:05:11 [davb]
Yeah, that is still working
14:07:34 [rbm]
This is horrible.
14:07:47 [rbm]
There were people jumping off the world trade center.
14:07:54 [rbm]
That's a pretty high building
14:08:33 [markd2]
whoa
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* rbm goes get ready for class
14:14:54 [davb]
half of the tower has collaspsed.
14:16:45 [shagster]
I'm just waiting for wave 2
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I think that DC was wave 2 - wondering about wave 3
14:26:52 [shagster]
No, I think wave 2 will be west coast
14:34:48 [davb]
it won't be an airplane
14:35:06 [davb]
both towers appear to be totally destroyed
14:35:16 [shagster]
Yea...so I'm here...
14:35:39 [shagster]
so I'm hearing...*grr*
14:36:23 [davb]
a car bomb outside the state building
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in washington
14:46:01 [rbm]
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14:47:11 [davb]
A plane crashed in pennsylvania
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about 10:00am
15:01:35 [davb]
it has been reported that a plane has crashed near Camp David
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rebooting
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15:43:19 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] Hi all. Please bear with us as some off-topic discussion continues today. Needless to say, people in the US in particular may be very preoccupied. Thanks.
16:03:01 [KarlL]
anybody here use aolserver with freebsd?
16:05:05 [shagster]
there is a patch for it I know, but I have never used it...
16:05:58 [KarlL]
i'm getting a lot of interrupted system calls, it looks like a bug in pthreads in the kernel that signals get delivered to all threads instead of just the specific ones.
16:07:13 [GEM]
sick people: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1637566709
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16:30:29 [talli]
hey guys
16:31:32 [ola]
hi talli. you alright?
16:31:59 [talli]
ya, fine. i'm in california
16:32:06 [talli]
everyone from musea is fine
16:34:33 [talli]
va linux is in the WTC
16:35:04 [ola]
was
16:35:14 [talli]
ya
16:35:34 [ola]
what time did it happen?
16:35:44 [talli]
um,, 9 am ET
16:38:54 [talli]
i feel kinda hopeless.
16:39:00 [talli]
i live about 10 blocks from the WTC
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so that's my home where all hell is breaking loose. but i'm in CA
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california
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16:39:33 [AaronSw]
loggy is still up ;-)
16:39:37 [talli]
helpless i mean
16:39:44 [shagster]
tallie: good to hear everybody is okay
16:39:51 [talli]
oh, that's good. was he somehow in the WTC?
16:39:55 [talli]
thanks shag
16:40:07 [AaronSw]
I don't know... you know where he is better than I do.
16:40:14 [AaronSw]
He was at calliope at the time of the crash. ;-)
16:40:29 [talli]
oh, right.
16:41:09 [AaronSw]
How close is calliope/musea offices?
16:42:22 [shagster]
I'm still waiting to see if the secured airplane 10 miles from my home has a bomb in it :(
16:43:23 [talli]
oh christ
16:43:33 [AaronSw]
shagster, where are you?
16:43:45 [shagster]
Cleveland
16:44:23 [shagster]
And the bomb squad is currently checking a plane at Cleveland Hopkins
16:56:19 [rbm]
moo
16:57:45 [talli]
hey rbm
16:59:36 [shagster]
* shagster worries about rbm and this cow things of his
16:59:40 [rbm]
Ben is okay, by the way
16:59:45 [talli]
yes, i saw
17:00:07 [rbm]
I had sent him an e-mail earlier today, and just got back from class and read his reply
17:01:43 [KarlL]
the freebsd workaround in openacs.org is pretty horrid. i can do much better with a patch for aolserver's tcl.
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17:35:40 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] Just a note. Pasting information on flights, need for blood donors and similar things on wallops. To listen, /mode <yournick> +w
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18:12:06 [talli]
hey guys
18:28:48 [AaronSw]
hi there
18:28:54 [AaronSw]
How're you doing?
18:33:58 [KarlL]
I have a Tcl patch for aolserver that eliminates interrupted system call errors under freebsd
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18:42:25 [shagster]
KarlL: where is the patch?
18:48:56 [KarlL]
shagster: Is there a way to put it somewhere on openacs.org? I have a login.
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19:01:25 [davb]
shagster: You might want to post it to the AOLserver project at sourceforge.
19:02:01 [KarlL]
freebsd patch is now at http://lehenbauer.com/openacs/freebsd-patch.html
19:02:08 [shagster]
karll you might be able to post it in /new-file-storage
19:02:11 [davb]
oops. KarlL i meant
19:03:25 [shagster]
davb: http://pulse.alal.com:8080/ct.html my clickthough testing notes
19:06:00 [shagster]
KarlL: do you think the patch would work on OpenBSD also? (I haven't look at it yet, I"m feeling lazy)
19:08:26 [KarlL]
shagster: If you are getting "interrupted system call" errors, about 100% for sure this will fix it.
19:10:40 [davb]
rbm: there is a open bug on OpenACS 4. It belongs to the clickthrough module. I fixed the source in CVS, but I can't close the bug.
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20:18:26 [rbm]
have you commited the fix?
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