IRC log of openacs on 2001-09-04

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topic is: Welcome to the OpenACS Helpline | http://www.openacs.org/
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Users on #openacs: loggy til AaronSw andyn djg zzzirk chump rbm abbaJ shagster GEM
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http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_389114.html?menu=news.latestheadlines
03:10:26 [chump]
B: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_389114.html?menu=news.latestheadlines from Psychephylax
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B:| Violent Monopoly loser warned he
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titled item B
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B:| Violent Monopoly loser warned he faces jail
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titled item B
03:11:08 [Psychephylax]
B: What the hell is this world coming to?
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commented item B
03:11:16 [Psychephylax]
chump: view
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A: http://allbusiness.findlaw.com/agreements/handspring/softwarelic.html
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B: Violent Monopoly loser warned he faces jail (http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_389114.html?menu=news.latestheadlines)
03:16:10 [Psychephylax]
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_389049.html?menu=news.lifestyle
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C: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_389049.html?menu=news.lifestyle from Psychephylax
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C:| Old folks' homes showing porn movies
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03:16:40 [Psychephylax]
C: Funny
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03:18:54 [Psychephylax]
later guys
03:18:59 [Psychephylax]
see ya on Wed from work :)
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[GlobalNotice] As you may have noticed, services disappeared a moment ago, and we'll have to make one big split to bring it back. Please put on your seatbelts, and enjoy your flight. We appologise for the inconvenience.
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[GlobalNotice] Hi all. Services will be back up momentarily.
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[GlobalNotice] Hi all. There will be some splits as services returns. Please bear with us.
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12:26:30 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] That should take care of matters. Sorry for the inconvenience, and thank you again for using OPN.
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13:04:35 [ola]
good afternoon!
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hiya
13:05:43 [davb]
Hello.
13:11:26 [markd]
greetings
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PascalS has changed the topic to: Welcome to the OpenACS greeting channel!
13:13:06 [ola]
OpenACS4 is getting snappier by the hour, or is it my new Athlon 1200 that's warming up?
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:-)
13:13:16 [markd]
heh
13:13:21 [PascalS]
:)
13:13:32 [PascalS]
Works fine @750
13:14:04 [ola]
how much memory?;-)
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* GEM wanders in and waves
13:36:06 [PascalS]
256MB
13:36:19 [PascalS]
But thats PG, not Oracle blazing.
13:36:41 [PascalS]
If I start both Oracle and PG it's not a pretty sight.
13:37:14 [markd]
oof. that sounds painful
13:38:11 [PascalS]
Nah. I just don't use it that way often
13:47:16 [ola]
hah, I'm spoiling PG with 512MB...
13:47:34 [davb]
Wow. I only have 192mb.
13:47:58 [PascalS]
I own a grand total of 768MB
13:48:09 [ola]
yikes!
13:48:16 [PascalS]
I just need to share it over 4 machines
13:48:23 [ola]
heh
13:48:32 [PascalS]
Does anyone have any broken DIMMs lying around?
13:49:10 [ola]
no. why? can you fix 'em?
13:49:19 [PascalS]
ehrm, no - but I can use them
13:49:31 [davb]
Its cheaper to buy new ones anyway...
13:49:51 [PascalS]
how so?
13:50:09 [PascalS]
if you give me bad ram, how can it cost more?
13:50:40 [davb]
I meant cheaper than thinking about fixing them.
13:50:53 [PascalS]
You cannot fix ram, nobody can
13:50:56 [davb]
I have some SIMMs though. Probably alot.
13:51:21 [PascalS]
Me too, but no Mainboards with SIMMs anymore :(
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* PascalS wonders if everyone here is aware of the fact that MS-XML sucks
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* ola goes to install openfts
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* davb didn't notice
13:52:00 [davb]
ola: Cool.
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13:52:15 [PascalS]
ftp=full text search?
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s/ftp/fts/
13:52:37 [ola]
yup
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14:33:55 [markd]
/topic Greetings from the OpenACS greeting channel
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er, oops
14:44:39 [davb]
Wow, that search package is pretty neat. I am just looking at how they added it onto notes.
14:45:35 [davb]
I thought it was going to integrate with the CR so that you could just put your content in the CR and it would be searched.
14:59:37 [ola]
will we be able to search static pages, do you think?
15:03:34 [davb]
Thats the plan. I have to get back to work and build it. It seems that from what I have been talking to DanW about that
15:03:50 [davb]
if I can get the content into the CR, the Cr will handle the search functionality.
15:04:17 [davb]
Or I could do it the easy way, and have static-pages export its data to the search package.
15:10:16 [davb]
I can see in the original static-pages design notes that they planned on putting it into the CR to allow easier administration and searching. Too bad I am not getting aD money to fix it :)
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* markd tosses davb a quarter :-)
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woohoo!
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* markd expenses that quarter
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hehe
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* davb has a friend that only knows how to use the forward function on his email client.
15:21:02 [davb]
does Oracle have CASE WHEN?
15:21:52 [davb]
never mind...
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[GlobalNotice] Hi all. Apologies for the inconvenience, but we will need to restart services in a moment in order to resolve an issue. If you'd like to help with the ongoing problems, but aren't sure how you can, /msg me and I'll give you status. Thanks.
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[GlobalNotice] In the meantime, expect services to die and subsequent massive splits and rejoins as it comes back.
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15:36:36 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] Looks as if the problems are resolved for now. I'll dig up the list of people who messaged in response to my query and set up a channel to go over status. Thanks.
15:38:43 [davb]
rbm: any idea why pg_ctl cannot find my postmaster.pid to shutdown postgresql? (I thought it might be debian related)
15:42:34 [davb]
yeah. never mind...
15:43:00 [davb]
I need to set the PGDATA environment for the postgres user.
15:43:22 [davb]
* davb starts oracle...
15:44:20 [markd]
* markd hears davb's Oracle grinding into life....
15:45:06 [davb]
actually it starts up pretty quickly...
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argh!!!!!!
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AOLserver can;t connect to oracl again!
15:47:32 [davb]
actually it appears that the oracle libraries are missing.... weird.
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libclntsh.so cannot be found
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LD_LIBRARY_PATH
15:48:15 [davb]
Aha. Thanks. (I forgot thats why aD had the aolserver-oracle script)
15:51:12 [davb]
Aha. A clue that your db driver is not loading, AOLserver starts quickly..
15:52:42 [markd]
LOL
15:54:56 [davb]
actually the data-model wasn't loaded it it started pretty fast anyway.
16:10:28 [davb]
can I get the email of the sitewide admin?
16:18:12 [til]
select party_id,email from parties,acs_permissions where grantee_id=party_id and object_id=0 and privilege='admin';
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[GlobalNotice] We'll have services back up in a moment, with the usual splits. Apologies for the inconvenience.
16:18:52 [davb]
cool. I found it.
16:19:19 [davb]
OK, why does the setup page let you enter your email with a , in it? like this dave@thedesignexperience,org
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16:29:16 [davb]
cool! Oracle static-pages scans!
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oops... another snag.
16:32:17 [davb]
hmmm invalid column name... doesn't say which one.
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oops.
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update static_pages
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set show_comments_p = (CASE WHEN show_comments_p=TRUE THEN FALSE ELSE !>>>!TRUE END)
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where static_page_id = :item_id
16:41:44 [markd]
TRUE isn't an oracle symbol
16:42:01 [markd]
the errors are reported from right to left, so it barfed on the first true
16:42:14 [markd]
I bet doing 't' 'f' instead of TRUE FALSE will work
16:42:48 [davb]
cool.
16:42:53 [davb]
thanks
16:42:57 [davb]
check it out :Caffeine (Integration Server Overview)
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?
16:43:21 [davb]
from the oracle docs. Apparently they need caffeine integration for the DBAs to be efficient
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:)
16:47:32 [markd]
LOL
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16:51:07 [davb]
Aha, no errors, but I am not getting the links to add comments.
16:52:39 [markd]
hmmm
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see what show_comments_p is set to
16:52:55 [markd]
maybe it's not the 't' 'f' thing
16:53:47 [davb]
oh, of course.
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t
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t
16:55:19 [davb]
its probably the part that actually loads the page. The check query is busted.
16:59:20 [davb]
Aha. I have not mounted the general comments package.
17:00:01 [davb]
Fixed!
17:00:12 [markd]
wü-hü!
17:01:05 [davb]
OK, last dumb question until after lunch. I removed some files, but forgot to remove them from CVS. How can I see what they were?
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cvs -n update
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the U (I think) will show what needs to be updated
17:01:35 [davb]
yep. thanks!!
17:04:35 [davb]
Cool. its fixed and committed.
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yay!
17:31:19 [davb]
Taking off two weeks really helps to clear your head. I found all the bugs right away.
17:33:05 [markd]
cool
17:34:26 [markd]
* markd would love to take two weeks off
17:34:40 [davb]
(off from working on static-pages that is)
17:59:59 [GEM]
for amusement about stupid someone's coworkers, check out http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?itemid=8154123&nc=4
18:00:15 [GEM]
(it's even got a DB connection :-)
18:02:02 [markd]
cool
18:02:39 [markd]
also check out http://chroniclesofgeorge.nanc.com/ - for amusing abuse of a cow-worker
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(jump to page 1)
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must.....stop.....reading......george......
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are you havening a goodly time?
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ohmigod. It hurts.... I have to stop. I don;t have a door.
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(to contain the laughter)
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Chronicles of Georgening are awesome
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[GlobalNotice] Interesting day for services problems. We'll be bringing it back up in a moment. Please bear with us.
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hi andyn.
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hello ola
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i'm tired. I think I need food. I have played too long with OpenACS4 search packet...
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go ahead, take a break...
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has talli gone underground?
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I haven't seen him all day.
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Hi vinod.
20:13:50 [vinod]
hey dave!
20:13:56 [davb]
totally off-topic, buts its cool. http://www.kcmuseum.org a really nice web site that uses Manila.
20:14:26 [davb]
Now I have an idea of what content management can do so I can evaluate ETP
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(there I coerced it back on-topic)
20:16:57 [AaronSw]
Only if you're Brian Bell. ;-)
20:17:53 [davb]
Their HTML is evil though. Wow look at all those tables!
20:18:44 [AaronSw]
Not much different than many other sites nowadays
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Now, not at all really.
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* AaronSw is a big Brain Bell fan
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s/Now/No
20:19:55 [vinod]
who's Brian Bell?
20:20:00 [AaronSw]
s/Brain/Brian/
20:20:08 [AaronSw]
He's the guy who makes all the good-looking Manila sites
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http://design.weblogger.com/
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A: http://design.weblogger.com/ from AaronSw
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A:|Brian Bell's Website
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titled item A
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A:|Bryan Bell's Website
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titled item A
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oops... i've been spelling his name wrong
20:20:57 [davb]
Oh ok.
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A:See also [BryanBell.com|http://www.bryanbell.com/]
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commented item A
20:21:52 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] Hi all. Once more into the breach. In case you're wondering, we killed a cracker channel yesterday. The new code should be a lot cleaner, but scheduling has been a problem. Thanks.
20:22:01 [davb]
aiigh! He has a humongous (sp?) table. It scrolls horizontally on 1024x768
20:22:19 [vinod]
ok, that makes more sense. cuz i did a quick google search and got this: http://www.brianbell.com/
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[GlobalNotice] We'll be coming back up in a moment, with the attendant temporary splits.
20:22:29 [vinod]
and i thought that aaronsw had gone temporarily insane
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:-)
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heheh
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I saw that and realized my mistake
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20:23:46 [AaronSw]
Yeah, some of his work is just stunning.... and some is pretty poor by comparison
20:24:02 [davb]
Porbably depends on who/what it is for.
20:24:25 [AaronSw]
Yeah... Like personally I find http://theme28.weblogger.com/ ugly
20:26:20 [davb]
Thats the one on http://www.bryanbell.com
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20:35:39 [davb]
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/resource/sep01/speak.html
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B: http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/resource/sep01/speak.html from davb
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B:|Engineer's Guide to Venture Capitalists
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titled item B
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22:56:29 [rbm]
mooo
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ooom
23:12:29 [gilbertw]
moo to you too
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